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[Juodas Varnas]

MeiSooHaityu, on 06 July 2016 - 07:36 AM, said:

I agree 100%.

I think that is one of the main reasons why I prefer the chicken-walker design over humanoid.

Which is why I prefer the SCORPION to humanoid designs.

Seriously. It's probably the most practical and... "realistic" design for a mech. Low-profile, sloped armor, 4 legs to guarantee stability, high mounted weapons.

Don't get me wrong though, i love my Gundams too. My Centurion, my Wolverine, Vindicator, Atlas, Thunderbolt and Warhammer, all have a place in my heart.

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 06 July 2016 - 07:41 AM.

[Metus regem]

Looks like a boat on legs with arms...

I can't help but think of



when I see this mech...

[TheVent]

I'm so excited for this mech. I pre-ordered it a few days after it came out because I mistook it for a light, but i'm perfectly fine with a medium that runs at 129. It looks good, it's fast, its hardpoints don't suck (hopefully), and there's versatility to it. I think it will be a nice addition to the lately almost forgotten medium class. Call me a noob or a fanboy but I can't wait for this ****.

[Dread Render]

Im my Crystal ball I can see many 5x ERML and 5xSPL versions running around

[Requiemking]

Heh, I'm going to enjoy playing sniper with this thing. I'm the kind of player who tries to play Omnimechs with stock Omnipods, so try to find builds for the three that I'm getting is going to be interesting, especially for the variant that has a bunch of energy harpoints....and then a missile hardpoint for some reason.

[Lily from animove]

has real arms and chciken legs, thats great, however i would like to see a sideview of it.

alos the laserplacement being next to each other on the arms instead of ontop is a bit of a straneg choice.

Bishop Steiner, on 06 July 2016 - 04:52 AM, said:

Looks like a Nova that got its head stuck up a Raven's butt, to me.

that happens when

Bishop Steiner, on 06 July 2016 - 04:52 AM, said:

Looks like a Nova that got its head stuck up a Raven's butt, to me.

you park between 2 DWF and they both start moving into your direction


I wonder if we will be able to see the nose form the cockpit similar to the dragon. it's long enough for this.

Edited by Lily from animove, 06 July 2016 - 08:09 AM.

[Templar Dane]

Looks fine to me, except those arm pods, those look like ***.

[TELEFORCE]

I really wish Alex gave it asymmetrical arms like it had in all of its other lore appearances, otherwise it would be perfect.

[Yellonet]

It looks alright for a clan mech.

[Moldur]

I bet if you blow the arms off it looks like a walking submarine.

[Bishop Steiner]

Gas Guzzler, on 06 July 2016 - 07:13 AM, said:

I was excited for this, but Ghost Heat 2.0 says I cant fire 6 cSPLs without penalty, so that is kind of going to kill it for me.

they finally released power draw specs, somewhere? Or is this just bittervet speculation? Not that I'm inclined to care much, either way.

[Wintersdark]

Bishop Steiner, on 06 July 2016 - 09:24 AM, said:

they finally released power draw specs, somewhere? Or is this just bittervet speculation? Not that I'm inclined to care much, either way.

Speculation. But the theory is 30 damage, so you'd have to run 6 ERSL or 5SPL. It's all the difference in the world, and totally worth getting all bent out of shape about.

Totally ruins the mech. Totally.

[Bishop Steiner]

Lily from animove, on 06 July 2016 - 08:00 AM, said:

has real arms and chciken legs, thats great, however i would like to see a sideview of it.

alos the laserplacement being next to each other on the arms instead of ontop is a bit of a straneg choice.



that happens when

you park between 2 DWF and they both start moving into your direction


I wonder if we will be able to see the nose form the cockpit similar to the dragon. it's long enough for this.

Strange choice? Maybe. Probably so many people whined about the Mist Lynx arms that they were scared to. Plus many of the Omnimech TT illustration use a SxS configuration.

[Gas Guzzler]

Bishop Steiner, on 06 July 2016 - 09:24 AM, said:

they finally released power draw specs, somewhere? Or is this just bittervet speculation? Not that I'm inclined to care much, either way.

Thats the proposed starting point from the man himself.

Funny being called a bittervet. I was a stalwart White Knight once. Then I took an arrow in the knee.

Wintersdark, on 06 July 2016 - 09:30 AM, said:

Speculation. But the theory is 30 damage, so you'd have to run 6 ERSL or 5SPL. It's all the difference in the world, and totally worth getting all bent out of shape about.

Totally ruins the mech. Totally.

Your foresight is impressive. You're probably right. This mech will be such an awesome medium with 5 cSPLs... So awesome.

[Bishop Steiner]

Gas Guzzler, on 06 July 2016 - 10:50 AM, said:

Thats the proposed starting point from the man himself.

Funny being called a bittervet. I was a stalwart White Knight once. Then I took an arrow in the knee.



Your foresight is impressive. You're probably right. This mech will be such an awesome medium with 5 cSPLs... So awesome.

really depends on how long power draw would delay it being able to follow up, wouldn't it?

And since every other mech will be laboring under various similar issues, presumably...makes it really hard to prognosticate on what realyl will be the demarcation point for effectiveness, yes?

[Gas Guzzler]

Bishop Steiner, on 06 July 2016 - 10:52 AM, said:

really depends on how long power draw would delay it being able to follow up, wouldn't it?

And since every other mech will be laboring under various similar issues, presumably...makes it really hard to prognosticate on what realyl will be the demarcation point for effectiveness, yes?

Its still outrageous that this game would penalize anyone for firing 6 SMALL PULSE LASERS. You mean 36 damage at less than 200 meters is so gamebreaking that it needs ghost heat?? Either way, if I can put 6 MLs on a Locust, then why would I bother with 5 cSPLs on a Viper. Or I would just use 5 cSPLs on a Cheetah or a Jenner IIC (probably the Cheetah given the jennies size).

Delay following up... you mean shutdown sooner? Ghost heat 2.0 was confirmed to be just heat penalties not cooldown.

Also, other mechs will have quad AC5s that will leg this thing in a literally a matter of 3-5 seconds.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 06 July 2016 - 11:00 AM.

[Wintersdark]

Gas Guzzler, on 06 July 2016 - 10:50 AM, said:

Your foresight is impressive. You're probably right. This mech will be such an awesome medium with 5 cSPLs... So awesome.

You misunderstand.

I don't think the Viper will be awesome, I think it'll be mostly trash.

My point was that going from 6 SPL to 5 SPL or 6ERSL+2DHS is hardly a breaking change, particularly if everyone else has those same issues.

It's not going to really impact the mech at all. It'll probably be bad, it has always been destined to be really mediocre at best, but having that particular GH limit is just not going to be that big of a deal. It's not a "straw that breaks the camel's back" situation at all.

[C E Dwyer]

Bishop Steiner, on 06 July 2016 - 04:52 AM, said:

Looks like a Nova that got its head stuck up a Raven's butt, to me.

I wasn't going to put it quite that way but yes

[LordMelvin]

Gas Guzzler, on 06 July 2016 - 10:59 AM, said:

Its still outrageous that this game would penalize anyone for firing 6 SMALL PULSE LASERS. You mean 36 damage at less than 200 meters is so gamebreaking that it needs ghost heat?? Either way, if I can put 6 MLs on a Locust, then why would I bother with 5 cSPLs on a Viper. Or I would just use 5 cSPLs on a Cheetah or a Jenner IIC (probably the Cheetah given the jennies size).

Delay following up... you mean shutdown sooner? Ghost heat 2.0 was confirmed to be just heat penalties not cooldown.

Also, other mechs will have quad AC5s that will leg this thing in a literally a matter of 3-5 seconds.

It couldn't be any easier to remove from a fight than the PXH, whose arms fall off if you think about it too hard.

[Bishop Steiner]

Gas Guzzler, on 06 July 2016 - 10:59 AM, said:

Its still outrageous that this game would penalize anyone for firing 6 SMALL PULSE LASERS. You mean 36 damage at less than 200 meters is so gamebreaking that it needs ghost heat?? Either way, if I can put 6 MLs on a Locust, then why would I bother with 5 cSPLs on a Viper. Or I would just use 5 cSPLs on a Cheetah or a Jenner IIC (probably the Cheetah given the jennies size).

Delay following up... you mean shutdown sooner? Ghost heat 2.0 was confirmed to be just heat penalties not cooldown.

Also, other mechs will have quad AC5s that will leg this thing in a literally a matter of 3-5 seconds.

considering the dmg 6 spl can do in a Jenny II?

*shrug*

as for delayed follow up... not talking about cooldown...but how rapidly one can shot again without incurring said penalties, which I believe has NOT been stated anywhere?