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[Timber Ghost]

I remember this. Someone blamed it on me, but at the end of the match, I had 2 team damage is all. Which, in all honesty, was 3 more damage than what I did to the enemy. Horrible match for me. As soon as someone said the ecm cicada, and then seeing I was the only ecm cicada, I was a little pissed to be honest.

Sorry Darian, it was not me. I went back to watch my shadow play video, and I could not tell who the last to catch up to us was. I did not see it happen, so I am not placing blame. However, I did notice that burning chrome was the one who blamed me. Ya, the same guy who ran out of bounds to commit suicide rather then fight the enemy. If I remember correctly, he actually did TK a guy the very next round.

I do not plan on uploading the video. I did like 89 damage, or something like that. But, if I have to to prove my innocence, I sure will.

Edited by Timber Ghost, 07 July 2016 - 04:58 PM.

[Musubi Mike]

As to why this is a thing, some people just have anger issues. I was Tkilled last night by a person in the first 30 seconds of a match because I had the audacity to kill him in the previous match (when we were on opposite teams). He did not feel that it was fair for me to headshot him while he was shutdown 10 feet in front of me. These things happen, I try not to let it affect me personally

[Xetelian]

I haven't DC'd more than a handful of times in 500 matches, I'm just lucky because I see a DC'd player on either team like half of 100 matches.

Never shoot a teammate for any reason. If they fire on me I just let them kill me and move on the the next game, I don't fire back because even if I kill them I'm as good as dead so why bother?


People who are motivated to leg or kill teammates should be banned after a couple suspensions. Everyone deserves a second chance to change but after 2 suspensions a perma ban is likely the necessary punishment.


I play League of Legends and that has a WAY more toxic community than this game. I get into 40-60 minute matches with 10-15 year olds and watch them intentionally throw games and ***** and moan because things didn't go their way at the start. Just recently I had a guy throw a game and feed because I accidentally got the last hit on a early kill as support. He spent all game telling me I'm horrible and kept dying on purpose. Nothing like that happens here, he and another player also wouldn't vote to surrender so 45+ minutes of my life were wasted.


MWO community is better by a LARGE margin. LoL has a report system that works and bans people all the time. I've seen people get banned who were in the same guild/community as me so I know they really take reports seriously in that game.

Edited by Xetelian, 07 July 2016 - 05:35 PM.

[Mcchuggernaut]

Camping or trying to play MWO with an unreliable connection is a bit rude to everyone else. Once the enemy team gets a numeric advantage it usually costs you the match. If you disconnect, you have put your whole team at a disadvantage because of it. Don't let anyone tell you "It's ok if they just reconnect though!". Wrong. Even if you disconnect, survive, and get back in the fight. You weren't contributing while you were gone. You weren't tanking or dealing damage, providing target locks or calling out information, you were just dead weight. So what if at the very end of a match you manage to reconnect in your un-touched Dire Wolf? The six enemy mechs that likely survived just because you weren't on the front lines doing your job to swing the match your team's way will just focus fire on you and tear you apart in seconds, even if they are all badly damaged. Same with camping in the backfield. Your going to screw over your team in hopes of getting a couple cheap kills on damaged enemy mechs at the end of the game? Why not just fight, win more often, and probably end up with the same amount of kills?

All that said, shooting the stupid camper (or the disconnect trying to play with a Walmart-grade connection) doesn't do anything but waste your time when you could be better than them and actually fighting the enemy. Maybe call them out and berate them on coms a little bit since it might convince them to move up and fight. Otherwise, just don't waste time on them.

Edited by Mcchuggernaut, 07 July 2016 - 06:24 PM.

[Macster16]

I've never seen someone intentional fire on a DC. They're common (probably over half of games I'm in has atleast one player not connect, DC or connect late) and I figured people are just used to it and carry on.

AFKs who are AFK for the whole or most of the match do really tick me off though. I understand if you've got RL stuff that is distracting you from the game, but if you're going to be AFK for most or all of the match, then don't press launch or cancel your search. They're basically screwing over their team and it's bad. While I have ****ed about some I've seen in games, I've never actually gone as far as shooting them however even if they may deserve it.

Edited by Macster16, 07 July 2016 - 06:39 PM.

[Belacose]

Xetelian, on 07 July 2016 - 05:33 PM, said:

Never shoot a teammate for any reason. If they fire on me I just let them kill me and move on the the next game,

Jesus, is that you?

[Boulangerie]

Belacose, on 07 July 2016 - 06:40 PM, said:

Jesus, is that you?

Turn the other rear side torso.

[MoonUnitBeta]

Once they get more efficient at detecting and separating incidents from Bob Ross happy accidents and purposeful grieving/poor team play, then they can hand out more hefty penalties.

But until then, (which is never, because it's too much effort to ask for something that's at least a little more robust than a rotted, dry leaf) we get nothing. But who knows. PGI is well known for putting out ***** first, and then going back and redoing 2 or 3 times. But hey, they're the professionals and we can't tell them how to make a game, unless it's in the form of godly a$$-ki$$ing and stroking their golden scepter.

[Death Proof]

I STILL think they should implement a visual warning indicator on the HUD plus an audio cue from Bitchin' Betty whenever the player inflicts more than 3 damage on a friendly mech, warning the player that "Friendly Fire will NOT be tolerated."

Aggressive players that rack up 3 or more warnings during the match forfeit their earnings for that round entirely.

If this behavior continues in additional matches within a 24-hour period, they should be suspended for an hour on their first offense, 24 hours on their second...and then permanently banned on their third offense.

I bet people would start being MUCH more careful of where they are shooting then.

[Moonlight Grimoire]

Macster16, on 07 July 2016 - 06:38 PM, said:

I've never seen someone intentional fire on a DC. They're common (probably over half of games I'm in has atleast one player not connect, DC or connect late) and I figured people are just used to it and carry on.

AFKs who are AFK for the whole or most of the match do really tick me off though. I understand if you've got RL stuff that is distracting you from the game, but if you're going to be AFK for most or all of the match, then don't press launch or cancel your search. They're basically screwing over their team and it's bad. While I have ****ed about some I've seen in games, I've never actually gone as far as shooting them however even if they may deserve it.

There is a report function, tell people via voip or all chat and team chat to all report him for aiding the enemy, move on. There is no reason to ever shoot a teammate intentionally. If someone is intentionally shooting you and is your team mate let them kill you even after telling them to stop you must ignore them and focus on doing what damage you can, hell, take the time to practice rolling damage. If you strike back, and more importantly if you kill them it goes against you in PGI's automated penalty system, let the trolls, hot heads, and whatever else kill you, rack up a lot of complaints and get banned. If you can't stand ignoring a teammate shooting you with the intent of damaging or killing you then you need to step away and re-evaluate things.

I do think that team damage needs to have higher penalties, and I have recently had a string of bad luck with TKing, I thought I had a clear shot but there was smoke and I should have waited instead of being greedy, as well as friendly component destroyed, I was re positioning and had a cheetah run into me and his leg came off. But, I am willing to take the penalty. However, it needs to be more focused on players destroying friendly components with doing a % amount of the damage that was required to destroy said component. This way a gentle graze of a medium laser doing fractional damage to a friendly's exposed cherry red arm doesn't penalize you like you saw a friendly atlas and decided he didn't need that arm at the beginning of the game.

People intentionally doing more than a quarter of a components armor or internal structure should get a hefty penalty so those situations where you graze a friendly and they die or lose a part is just friendly fire and counts as a small damage penalty. However, doing a quarter of armor or internal structure health to the mech or a mech component will make you instantly incur the cool down penalty currently for killing a teammate and doing excessive team damage. Because, seriously, intentionally doing team damage is a terrible thing to do that warrants an aiding the enemy report and a global ban from playing for a minute with repeated offenses leading to suspension of your IP, CC, and Account for a week minimum.

[The Rogue Wolf]

The amusing thing is that this is actually counter-productive. If you team-damage/teamkill someone who is disconnected and they never reconnect, then they won't even know about your displeasure with them; if they do reconnect, then congratulations, you've put a teammate at a disadvantage. And either which way you get hit with a penalty.

Musubi Mike, on 07 July 2016 - 05:14 PM, said:

As to why this is a thing, some people just have anger issues.

That and entitlement issues, I'd wager. "How DARE you do ANYTHING to lower my chances of victory!"

[Kubernetes]

I see people get upset and call for everyone to report DCs and AFKs, which I find nuts. Sometimes stuff happens beyond your control. You disconnect through no fault of your own or something in real life intervenes. It's just a game.

Over time you'll win just as many games because the other team has DCs as you will lose because of DCs on your side.

Do people scream and get angry because they got an easy win? "I can't believe we were allowed to just stomp you because two assaults DC'd on your side! I don't want this unfair victory! Everyone report the DCs!"

[Belacose]

Moonlight Grimoire, on 07 July 2016 - 07:33 PM, said:

If someone is intentionally shooting you and is your team mate let them kill you even after telling them to stop you must ignore them and focus on doing what damage you can, hell, take the time to practice rolling damage.

Well in that case maybe we should actually thank them, or even send flowers. Thanks for the insight.

[Zolaz]

Getting upset at MWO is still a thing? Take a page from Russ' playbook and take it easy, no need to worry.

FW still in beta after what 4 years? The hold you over till we get FW up and running is now the primary focus of the game? Random disconnects and server problems? Our community is so upset with us that we have left the Forums?

If Russ doesnt care, why should you?

[Maugged]

OMG there are some nasty people posting crap in this thread. I was in this game with you Darian, in your lance exactly. It was a stupid game anyway. I've been witnessing a lot of retardation that night.
I took screens of the results just in case if you want i'll PM you them.

[Mystere]

Appogee, on 07 July 2016 - 06:42 AM, said:

Start of match discos are so common at the moment that I assume none of them are deliberate.

To leg people because they are the victim of a client crash is very poor behavior.

You just cannot fix stupid ... and the scum of the earth.

[Moonlight Grimoire]

Belacose, on 07 July 2016 - 10:13 PM, said:

Well in that case maybe we should actually thank them, or even send flowers. Thanks for the insight.

Or maybe just report them, shrug it off and not get so worked up, if someone wants to be a team killing ******* let them, killing them back doesn't help you at all it hurts your team and wastes whatever cbills you might have earned. Yeah sure you feel better but in the long run you aren't helping anyone or anything. Report people intentionally TKing or intentionally hurting you instead of accidental miss fires. All you do by trying to kill them back is help them get their rocks off. Intentional friendly fire is never acceptable in quickplay. In faction play if you have someone backstabbing your team, well, it is best to kill them and be down a player the whole match instead, tell the enemy team what is going on, the more honorable ones will handicap themselves to make the match more fair.

[dervishx5]

Be careful what you wish for. The sleeping giant is awakening.

[Maugged]

Moonlight Grimoire, on 08 July 2016 - 07:34 PM, said:

Or maybe just report them, shrug it off and not get so worked up, if someone wants to be a team killing ******* let them, killing them back doesn't help you at all it hurts your team and wastes whatever cbills you might have earned. Yeah sure you feel better but in the long run you aren't helping anyone or anything. Report people intentionally TKing or intentionally hurting you instead of accidental miss fires. All you do by trying to kill them back is help them get their rocks off. Intentional friendly fire is never acceptable in quickplay. In faction play if you have someone backstabbing your team, well, it is best to kill them and be down a player the whole match instead, tell the enemy team what is going on, the more honorable ones will handicap themselves to make the match more fair.

Problem is no one paid attention to whom legged him so no one could be reported.