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#1 Count Zero 74

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Posted 07 July 2016 - 07:43 PM

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#2 Pat Kell

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Posted 07 July 2016 - 07:49 PM

I know right....here we are in our own little corner of the world, trying to carve out a chunk of it for our own and half that damn galaxy has to come join in....getting real damn crowded around here. Hopefully after the event, some units will see the light and go Steiner to help you guys out.

In our defense though 34% of the population is in Kurita, FRR and Steiner though so you should be able to just bum rush us and take us out :)

Edited by Pat Kell, 07 July 2016 - 07:51 PM.


#3 FallingAce

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Posted 07 July 2016 - 09:02 PM

Faction balancing working as intended.

Would you like to buy a mechpack?

Pat I have some rental mechs for you ;)

Edited by FallingAce, 07 July 2016 - 09:02 PM.


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Posted 07 July 2016 - 09:15 PM

View PostPat Kell, on 07 July 2016 - 07:49 PM, said:

I know right....here we are in our own little corner of the world, trying to carve out a chunk of it for our own and half that damn galaxy has to come join in....getting real damn crowded around here. Hopefully after the event, some units will see the light and go Steiner to help you guys out.

In our defense though 34% of the population is in Kurita, FRR and Steiner though so you should be able to just bum rush us and take us out :)

Destroy in detail. We're not on the same world. Also most that % isn't active.

#5 Lehmund

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Posted 07 July 2016 - 09:22 PM

Mercs go where the fights are. With JF constantly attacking and being attacked by 2-3 factions all at once, it's where you get the most fight.

Looks like the Mercs aren't fighting for the Cbills after all....

#6 ccrider

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Posted 07 July 2016 - 09:38 PM

Combat cbills outweigh the faction bonuses.

#7 Deathlike

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Posted 07 July 2016 - 09:43 PM

Faction % doesn't equal active FW participation.

#8 MaxFool

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Posted 07 July 2016 - 09:49 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 07 July 2016 - 09:43 PM, said:

Faction % doesn't equal active FW participation.


Indeed, it feels like that 17% is half the population actually doing drops.

#9 Deathlike

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Posted 07 July 2016 - 10:05 PM

View PostMaxFool, on 07 July 2016 - 09:49 PM, said:

Indeed, it feels like that 17% is half the population actually doing drops.


When I talked about FW population contracts, it was exclusively related to the active FW participation. You could have every Merc stacked in Liao, but if no drops happened, it wouldn't matter.

That's why I bother mentioning this, but to fall upon deaf ears as it were...

#10 Kin3ticX

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Posted 07 July 2016 - 10:09 PM

you cant really go off those %s

there are not enough active players for every faction to have a meaningful contract bonus

#11 Jman5

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Posted 07 July 2016 - 10:13 PM

Most of the other clan factions just want to hide on defense. Jade Falcon is one of the few factions where the population will readily show up on attack without the aid of Long Toms. I watch the bloated Clan Defensive queues and scouting queues bursting at the seams with players while their invasion attack lanes sit idle at 0/0.

That said, I do not understand why large units that are self sufficient screw themselves by going Jade Falcon. If you have enough guys to form 12 mans, you're going to get fights regardless of how terrible your faction is. You might as well pick one with a juicy contract bonus.

#12 KinLuu

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Posted 07 July 2016 - 10:19 PM

View PostJman5, on 07 July 2016 - 10:13 PM, said:

That said, I do not understand why large units that are self sufficient screw themselves by going Jade Falcon. If you have enough guys to form 12 mans, you're going to get fights regardless of how terrible your faction is. You might as well pick one with a juicy contract bonus.


There are not that many units like this around any longer.

And once a unit no longer is able to get a 12-man running at every timezone, the option to go to a dead faction is gone.

NS was CSJ before we went CJF - I did not get a single attack game while we were there. And if the only thing you can do is defending CJF planets, you might as well go CJF in the first place.

#13 Pat Kell

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Posted 08 July 2016 - 01:19 AM

View PostDeathlike, on 07 July 2016 - 09:43 PM, said:

Faction % doesn't equal active FW participation.

View PostDeathlike, on 07 July 2016 - 10:05 PM, said:


When I talked about FW population contracts, it was exclusively related to the active FW participation. You could have every Merc stacked in Liao, but if no drops happened, it wouldn't matter.

That's why I bother mentioning this, but to fall upon deaf ears as it were...


View PostKin3ticX, on 07 July 2016 - 10:09 PM, said:

you cant really go off those %s

there are not enough active players for every faction to have a meaningful contract bonus

Can't I be a troll for once....Posted Image

Edited by Pat Kell, 08 July 2016 - 01:20 AM.


#14 DivBy0

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Posted 08 July 2016 - 01:59 AM

But I wonder... when the mercs jump to CJF to have drops... why scout they MapHack and [Long Tom] every time in short time?
Even the stupidst merc should know that the Game is Over when Russ and Pauls brightest idea show up.
Maybe there are some some poor pugs to be nuked out of the match but no player who have more than one weapongroup drops against [Long Tom].

And I think this 17% are 75% of the active and organized playerbase.

Edited by draiocht, 09 July 2016 - 09:10 AM.
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#15 KinLuu

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Posted 08 July 2016 - 02:14 AM

View Postvon Haudegen, on 08 July 2016 - 01:59 AM, said:

why scout they MapHack and [Long Tom] every time in short time?


I am not sure, but I would assume it is because of the stupid event. Before the event, scouting didn't reach LT level most of the time.

Edited by draiocht, 09 July 2016 - 09:11 AM.
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#16 meteorol

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Posted 08 July 2016 - 03:47 AM

View Postvon Haudegen, on 08 July 2016 - 01:59 AM, said:

But I wonder... when the mercs jump to CJF to have drops... why scout they MapHack and [Long Tom] every time in short time?


probably because PGI hands out a free mech for playing scouting? What should they do? Try to lose half their scouting matches against IS puggels so they can finish the event while preventing LT from coming up?

Edited by draiocht, 09 July 2016 - 09:12 AM.
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#17 WANTED

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Posted 08 July 2016 - 04:17 AM

There needs to be better incentives to get merc units to fight for the non dominant faction. They pretty much control the map and I trust them for not trigger LT but the pugs that follow the winning side cannot be trusted. More MC based on better percentage of that faction has less players?

#18 Count Zero 74

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Posted 08 July 2016 - 05:08 AM

Save CW !! Remove Clans !!

Or buy a mechpack...

#19 Deathlike

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Posted 08 July 2016 - 07:19 AM

View PostPat Kell, on 08 July 2016 - 01:19 AM, said:

Can't I be a troll for once....Posted Image


Not really.

It's sad and depressing.

It's also made me extra bitter+salty to stop caring about FW as a whole... since that was the whole wait was about... a wasteful one.

#20 The Hatred of Life

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Posted 08 July 2016 - 11:36 AM

I'm not sure this applies....
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