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[Bishop Steiner]

Mechwarrior1441491, on 16 July 2016 - 11:12 AM, said:

Heavies and Assaults JJ poptaring is a bit of a waste of tonnage while your team gets rolled. Of course poptarting is relegated to lights and Mediums.

When a poptarting medium can hold off 4-5 mechs with suppressing fire, you don't need a heavier mech.

when a poptarting medium can hold off 4-5 mechs, you need a better team. Poptarts don't exactly stand up to being pushed hard and face punched.

[Trauglodyte]

I'm ok with it. The good players will still be good in the KDKs and the bad players will die horribly. It isn't like the 4x UAC10s got nerfed. The platform that used it is simply less durable and a little slower out of the gate. How is that a bad thing?

[Piney II]

Once the hue and cry have died down, players will adapt to the changes and press on. The one constant in this game is change - be ready for it and learn to adapt.

I still really like this game and will continue to play it.

[Y E O N N E]

Piney, on 16 July 2016 - 12:01 PM, said:

Once the hue and cry have died down, players will adapt to the changes and press on. The one constant in this game is change - be ready for it and learn to adapt.

I still really like this game and will continue to play it.

Just because we adapt doesn't mean the issues don't still exist and that we should just shut up about them.

[Mechwarrior1441491]

Why adapt to poorly imagined game concepts? That's a pretty stupid way of enjoying a game, especially if the concepts you are dealing with and others in the past are straight up nonsense.

[MaximusPayne]

No conceptions needed. Either you enjoy the game or you don't. PGI has made no secrets with the direction of MWO. How they're managing the game is the way they've always done it since I've been playing it. It is what it is. I'm a huge Star Wars fan and love MMO's, so The Old Republic sounded like a sure thing for me. As it turns out, I hated the game. I'm not about to throw more money at it and then continue to complain it wasn't designed to my specific liking. The only voice PGI will listen to is those of dead presidents, so your complaints here will only fall on deaf ears. Either play the game or don't. Anything else is a waste of resources.

[Gorgo7]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 July 2016 - 07:35 AM, said:

Yes BJs are such meta mechs.

Seriously, you really don't have a clue about this do you? MADs? NOT OP. NOT META. BJs? HAVEN'T BEEN META SINCE THEIR STRUCTURE WA REDUCED (finally) MONTHS AGO. KDKS THAT ARE NOT THE 3? NOT META OR OP.

Just as a few examples. Were all decent to good? Yes. So Now we nerf decent to good.

Bravo.

It's not about meta...meta isn't magic you know.
I'm talking about a level playing field. What are you talking about?
Your ego, that's what.
Look at the Structure quirks and the Maneuver quirks and the Weapon quirks on the BJ for example, OH hey, how about the Maneuver quirks and the Weapon quirks and the Structure quirks on the Marauder?
MAD-3R
Acc rate 50% Dec rate 50%,
Turn rate 35% Torso Turn rate 45%,
+50% to ALL structure,
Multiple weapons quirks.

BJ-1
+50% to ALL structure,
Ballistic quirks that make pilots hard. (real pilots that is)
Torso turn rate 30%
Turn Angle +17!!!

Huh, you look at those? Maybe you should compare the traits of other Heavy and Medium IS mechs before cynically replying to my perfectly logical comment?
They are bringing the IS mechs into alignment with one another. Especially since the re-scale which you have conveniently forgot to mention.
Some have big structure and light weapon quirks. Some have big structure and light maneuver quirks, some have weapon and maneuver quirks, you get the idea?

Isn't your mantra knowing what you are talking about BEFORE you shoot your mouth off?
Where's your logic?
Love to hear it.

[Mechwarrior1441491]

Piney, on 16 July 2016 - 12:01 PM, said:

Once the hue and cry have died down, players will adapt to the changes and press on. The one constant in this game is change - be ready for it and learn to adapt.

I still really like this game and will continue to play it.

Only an idiot wouldn't push back or fight for something they enjoy when it's being tarnished and dragged through the mud with new changes.
Not everyone is a passive, scared little man. The world doesn't need any more scared men.

[Mole]

Mechwarrior1441491, on 17 July 2016 - 10:23 AM, said:

Only an idiot wouldn't push back or fight for something they enjoy when it's being tarnished and dragged through the mud with new changes.
Not everyone is a passive, scared little man. The world doesn't need any more scared men.

Only reason these changes have happened is because of massive amounts of QQ. So apparently crying gets PGI's attention, so if they do something I don't like it only makes sense to cry about it as loudly as I can until they fix it. See how this works? PGI is like a parent rewarding a child for pitching a fit in public over a toy or a piece of candy. You reward bad behavior, you teach the child/playerbase that if they continue said bad behavior they will get what they want.

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

1453 R, on 15 July 2016 - 07:27 PM, said:

Why. Did. You. People. Have. To. Insist. On. Buttmurdering. Every. Other. Variant. Too?!

Because PGI nerfs with a Long Tom now.

[Mechwarrior1441491]

How many people played Dragons before they got their AC quirks? How many would play it without any armour/AC 5 quirks? Quirks make certain mechs playable. Mechs are so similar to other variants in many cases there is NO reason to keep simialr hard point variants in your stable after you elite that mech. With quirks, there is a reason.

Advocate vanishing quirks and you make most of the mechs in the game obsolete. Might as well be red Vs blue around here.

Edited by Mechwarrior1441491, 17 July 2016 - 12:03 PM.

[Alienized]

Mechwarrior1441491, on 17 July 2016 - 12:02 PM, said:

How many people played Dragons before they got their AC quirks? How many would play it without any armour/AC 5 quirks? Quirks make certain mechs playable. Mechs are so similar to other variants in many cases there is NO reason to keep simialr hard point variants in your stable after you elite that mech. With quirks, there is a reason.

Advocate vanishing quirks and you make most of the mechs in the game obsolete. Might as well be red Vs blue around here.

actually, i played the dragon-1C long time ago as fast brawler/skirmisher. cant remember if it was before the quirkening or not but it you could surprise alot of people with it and they didnt knew how to fight it. most still dont know btw.
gotta check my old screenshots.... wait for the edit.

[Mechwarrior1441491]

Compared to alternative heavies, it was too vulnerable without quirks. Anything is possible, but that doesn't make it practical with other options.

[Alienized]

Mechwarrior1441491, on 17 July 2016 - 12:09 PM, said:

Compared to alternative heavies, it was too vulnerable without quirks. Anything is possible, but that doesn't make it practical with other options.

im not saying anything against that.
it is a 60 ton mech after all.
what i do say is that with everything getting quirks, the dragon was just in the same spot as it was before. still a 60 ton mech.
the only thing that made it viable been totally overdone ballistic quirks, not the rest of them all.
if that would be the case you would still see lots of them dragons but thats just not the case.

https://abload.de/im...ot00121ru1w.jpg

thats one of those old battles, found 4 screenshots with such results lol. that must be before quirkening.
there even been a stormcrow player moaned a SCR is so bad and needs to get buffed because he lost to a dragon, 1vs1 on HPG....