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[xXBagheeraXx]

if you notice they are slowly going down the line knocking IS mechs, especially assaults over the head with the nerfbat. Usually all the decent ones. Maulers/banshees got it last patch now this patch The battlemaster gets it. The last decent ones I'd say where the King crab and possibly the Atlas. Mark my words the King Crab gets it next patch.

[Yellonet]

xXBagheeraXx, on 16 July 2016 - 06:17 AM, said:

Because it was decent. Anything decent in this game cannot be allowed to survive. Look how long it took them to un gimp Madcats and Stormcrows.

Direwolves are still crap and now the majority of the decent IS mechs, especially the assaults lose thier quirks. Battlemasters where a nice staple in Faction Warfare, and the 10% energy range and medium laser bonus range really helped them out in midrange fights. The accel quirks made the Marauders REALLY nice peekaboom mechs, able to poke, do damage and duck while keeping those easy to hit side torsos out of fire...Nerfed....

No idea why the hell novas got gimeped either. Those where still pretty much meat on the table, especially if you sawed off the arms.

If nothing if decent, they I guess everything is equal? So that's good I guess.

[xXBagheeraXx]

Yellonet, on 16 July 2016 - 06:19 AM, said:

If nothing if decent, they I guess everything is equal? So that's good I guess.

By decent I mean NOT crap.

Whales? Crap.

Maulers? Not crap. Therefore Nerf them Maulers.

[3xnihilo]

Yellonet, on 16 July 2016 - 02:19 AM, said:

If they were clearly better than other mechs of comparable size and weight, then yes, they needed a nerf. And yes, I play Black Jacks, I'm actually starting to like my BJ-1 again, long range annoyance dakka

Unless the other mechs of that weight are just bad. Every mech has to be balanced with every other mech in the game for perfect balance which is not possible, I know, but it means the goal of balancing should be to get as many mechs as possible functioning at the same level compared to each other. So, if the BJ outperforms the Vindicator and Phoenix hawk, you have to ask which of those mechs performs at a reasonable level with the other mechs in the game. The Blackjack was in a good place, vindicators and Phoenix Hawks not so much (the 1k is ok, but not overpowered by any means). So, for balance you should not bring BJ's down to the vindicators, you should bring vindicators up to blackjacks. Even then you will still see more Griffins, Stormcrows, And hunchback iic's.

Edited by 3xnihilo, 16 July 2016 - 07:17 AM.

[Requiemking]

I just bought my BJ-1 yesterday, then I find out about this. Ah well, despite it not making sense, I'll still pilot my Cruciamen to the end.

Edited by Requiemking, 16 July 2016 - 07:58 AM.

[Alistair Winter]

Where it seems reasonable to ask "Why", I think PGI is asking "Why not?".

"Should we nerf the Centurion again?"
"Meh, why not?"

[Deathlike]

Well, we know our Balance Overlord doesn't like BJs.

[An Innocent Urbie]

if you are asking why for the blackjack but are ok with the locust nerf then I dont think it is a concern

[ArmandTulsen]

Oh, this is just WRONG!

Why the hell did the Blackjack get nerfed?!

Was it so it steps aside and lets the Phoenix Hawk shine, or did people actually think the BJ was OP af?

[Rhent]

Why the Blackjack? It's overquriked to the max is is why.

[kapusta11]

Because making it bigger was not enough, that's PGI for you, now buy a mech pack you little ****!

[Y E O N N E]

Rhent, on 17 July 2016 - 12:07 PM, said:

Why the Blackjack? It's overquriked to the max is is why.

Only the mediocre variants. The BJ-3 and BJ-1X have no more than most 'Mechs.