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#1 Hit the Deck

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 10:59 PM

I'm usually not particularly concerned with quirk changes because I have a good amount of pretty decent 'Mechs already (85 and counting, plus Night Gyrs on the horizon) so I wanna adopt the title as my kind of motto!

As long as there are no NegaQuirks (those red letters) or massive positive quirks (hello new +80% accel-deccel PXH lol) involved, I guess I am not too bothered ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


PS: PGI please don't ship the Night Gyr with quirks (of any kind)!

#2 Y E O N N E

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 11:07 PM

Well, I'm particularly salty because it strugglebused my favored 'Mechs, the Locust, Blackjack, and Marauder.

And it's not like I'm a bandwagon-jumper. I've been running Locusts and Blackjacks ragged since 2014. I pre-ordered Marauders before even knowing what their quirks would be and play them frequently.

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 11:08 PM

Based on PGI's track record on potentially good mechs, they are always prone to be overbuffed as a selling point, and only nerfed when the C-bill release rolls around.

The opposite is true for potentially bad mechs, where they are completely underbuffered or not at all, and continue to stay that way for its initial lifetime.

#4 Hit the Deck

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 11:17 PM

View PostYeonne Greene, on 15 July 2016 - 11:07 PM, said:

Well, I'm particularly salty because it strugglebused my favored 'Mechs, the Locust, Blackjack, and Marauder.
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Yeah, it could be a touchy subject for those who are attached to some 'Mechs.

#5 Y E O N N E

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 11:23 PM

View PostHit the Deck, on 15 July 2016 - 11:17 PM, said:

Yeah, it could be a touchy subject for those who are attached to some 'Mechs.


It's a problem because at the level of play we are compelled to play at because of tier, especially at prime time. I want to play Locusts. I am pretty damn good in a Locust, but the nature of the 'Mech is that it's still a handicap more often than not. I don't want to handicap my team.

So I either play the 'Mechs I want and handicap the team or I bring something that offers the team a stronger chance of success and don't get to play the 'Mechs I like. What the hell kind of crap decision is that and why do I have to make it when playing a videogame?

#6 Kasumi Sumika

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Posted 15 July 2016 - 11:25 PM

They have already nerfed my lovely Black Knight. Then They will nerfed my lovely Whammy.


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#7 Kubernetes

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 01:20 AM

If the Night Gyr sucks, you'll be a sad puppy.

If the Night Gyr rocks, PGI will nega-quirk it into oblivion, and you'll be a sad puppy.



#8 Lily from animove

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 01:23 AM

View PostKasumi Sumika, on 15 July 2016 - 11:25 PM, said:

They have already nerfed my lovely Black Knight. Then They will nerfed my lovely Whammy.


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come to the clan side of MWO, people still say clams OP.

and we have more cats, shadowcats, ebon jaguars mad cats.

Edited by Lily from animove, 16 July 2016 - 01:25 AM.


#9 Kasumi Sumika

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 02:41 AM

View PostLily from animove, on 16 July 2016 - 01:23 AM, said:


come to the clan side of MWO, people still say clams OP.

and we have more cats, shadowcats, ebon jaguars mad cats.



B-b-but I mostly prefer IS mech aesthetics...

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 02:59 AM

They managed to nail both my favorites this time. I've run Catapults since I got into the game and bought the Butterbee on day one. And they want it to be made of tissue paper. Great. And the Jester already had the least structure of any Catapult. Now it has less? Come on, Paul! Really?

They also seem to want to make Marauders unable to get out of their own way. Nice.



#11 Lily from animove

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 03:02 AM

View PostKasumi Sumika, on 16 July 2016 - 02:41 AM, said:



B-b-but I mostly prefer IS mech aesthetics...


most fo them look too euqally robot like at all, KGC and maraduer looc cool, most other not so much

Edited by Lily from animove, 16 July 2016 - 03:20 AM.


#12 caseysrevenge

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 03:05 AM

And then they ask me why don't you play this game anymore,pfff just read de board and it confirmed again all the reasons i'm not online anymore.

#13 Elizander

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 03:05 AM

View PostChados, on 16 July 2016 - 02:59 AM, said:

They managed to nail both my favorites this time. I've run Catapults since I got into the game and bought the Butterbee on day one. And they want it to be made of tissue paper. Great. And the Jester already had the least structure of any Catapult. Now it has less? Come on, Paul! Really?

They also seem to want to make Marauders unable to get out of their own way. Nice.


Well, to be honest it's just some armor I think. I didn't see it to be too bad. I don't think it'll affect my enjoyment of my K2. Posted Image

#14 Hit the Deck

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 03:08 AM

View PostKubernetes, on 16 July 2016 - 01:20 AM, said:

If the Night Gyr sucks, you'll be a sad puppy.
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"Sad" isn't the right choice of word I think, because I buy the 'Mech after thinking a lot about it. Honestly it was because of Alex' drawing.

If it turns out to be meh then it's my own fault. It is a pretty good 'Mech on paper so positive buffs at release would not make sense (let's not repeat what happened with KDK-3)! If it has no positive quirks, it can only get some later on which will make people happy and not salty!

#15 El Bandito

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 03:13 AM

View PostHit the Deck, on 16 July 2016 - 03:08 AM, said:

"Sad" isn't the right choice of word I think, because I buy the 'Mech after thinking a lot about it. Honestly it was because of Alex' drawing.

If it turns out to be meh then it's my own fault. It is a pretty good 'Mech on paper so positive buffs at release would not make sense (let's not repeat what happened with KDK-3)! If it has no positive quirks, it can only get some later on which will make people happy and not salty!



Yep, as far as I can tell, the Night Gyr is gonna be good even without quirks. And I style myself as someone who knows better about balancing than PGI, which isn't saying much really. :P

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 04:51 AM

View PostElizander, on 16 July 2016 - 03:05 AM, said:


Well, to be honest it's just some armor I think. I didn't see it to be too bad. I don't think it'll affect my enjoyment of my K2. Posted Image


Structure AND armor. Across the board. Nerfed to levels well below where Catapults were in October last year. Fragility, thy name is Catapult.

We need an update to the 11/5 Catapult nerf meme. We hardly knew ye.

Edited by Chados, 16 July 2016 - 04:52 AM.


#17 Bud Crue

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 05:05 AM

Balance Overlord?

A dartboard is not an overlord.

#18 Hit the Deck

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 05:14 AM

View PostBud Crue, on 16 July 2016 - 05:05 AM, said:

Balance Overlord?

A dartboard is not an overlord.

It's just one tool among many He possesses, the Nerfbat being another.

#19 Tordin

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 05:21 AM

And when theres buffs.. Buffbat?

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#20 Hit the Deck

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Posted 16 July 2016 - 05:27 AM

View PostTordin, on 16 July 2016 - 05:21 AM, said:

And when theres buffs.. Buffbat?
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Well, it doesn't have a name yet because when there are buffs, people usually take them for granted.





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