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#1 Battlemaster56

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Posted 06 August 2016 - 07:19 PM

SO hearing the news about the MADIIC being announced and everyone have different opinions about this mech and concerns, some ranging from a lazy design to rip Warhawk. But I want to get away from that and focus on other IIC mechs that may come( feeling more like they are gonna be released) and what big concern about them.

The biggest mechs that concerns me that PGI may announced the most

Warhammer IIC: this thing gonna inherit all the good things about the original Warhammer and can see this as a insta-meta mech in the first few seconds it be announced.

Locust IIC: Looking through sarna at this thing and seeing what it brings, it be really amazing on the field and hear the cries from the terribads fill the forums bout the little guy( still support this guy coming out need more lights) but I can see this thing in the future nerf to hell and back 1000 times over

Rifleman IIC: not much of a balance concern but more of the MADIIC treatment in variants since a good chunk of the mech variants have future tech like Heavy Lasers and AP guass, and see it as another lazy design choose. But I can see this mech being a near top tier mech for the Clans seeing it have those high arm mounted weapon points and possibly replace the Cauldron Born in the High mount department.


I want to see you guys opinion about the subject.

#2 LordNothing

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Posted 06 August 2016 - 09:14 PM

somebody wants to buy a mech pack (buy beer instead).

#3 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 06 August 2016 - 09:20 PM

IICs are nothing but cheap clan knock-offs.

The less i see of them, the better.

#4 Andi Nagasia

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Posted 06 August 2016 - 09:42 PM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 06 August 2016 - 09:20 PM, said:

IICs are nothing but cheap clan knock-offs.

The less i see of them, the better.

That seem to be Vastly Superior to the Front Line OmniMechs that Replaced them, Strange, ;)

i would love to see the LCT-2C,

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Posted 06 August 2016 - 09:46 PM

Rifleman IIC

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that would sell like hotcakes or it would of ..

#6 Valdarion Silarius

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Posted 06 August 2016 - 09:46 PM

View PostBattlemaster56, on 06 August 2016 - 07:19 PM, said:

SO hearing the news about the MADIIC being announced and everyone have different opinions about this mech and concerns, some ranging from a lazy design to rip Warhawk. But I want to get away from that and focus on other IIC mechs that may come( feeling more like they are gonna be released) and what big concern about them.

The biggest mechs that concerns me that PGI may announced the most

Warhammer IIC: this thing gonna inherit all the good things about the original Warhammer and can see this as a insta-meta mech in the first few seconds it be announced.

Locust IIC: Looking through sarna at this thing and seeing what it brings, it be really amazing on the field and hear the cries from the terribads fill the forums bout the little guy( still support this guy coming out need more lights) but I can see this thing in the future nerf to hell and back 1000 times over

Rifleman IIC: not much of a balance concern but more of the MADIIC treatment in variants since a good chunk of the mech variants have future tech like Heavy Lasers and AP guass, and see it as another lazy design choose. But I can see this mech being a near top tier mech for the Clans seeing it have those high arm mounted weapon points and possibly replace the Cauldron Born in the High mount department.


I want to see you guys opinion about the subject.


You are pretty much right on the money about most of your predictions, except when they receive the inevitable PGI nerf treatment.

I'm really crossing my fingers to hope they don't go full lazy with the warhammer iic, shadowhawk iic, locust iic and the rifleman iic design. I would still like to see some classic victor musical industries with some MWO modern treatment.

And please for the love of god PGI, DO NOT turn my rifleman iic into a glass cannon just because it's a good mech by lore.

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 06 August 2016 - 09:20 PM, said:

IICs are nothing but cheap clan knock-offs.

The less i see of them, the better.


My 4xLPL upgraded XL engine 11 ton armored Rifleman IIC Prime would like to have a word with your IS Rifleman sir...

Edited by Arnold The Governator, 06 August 2016 - 09:52 PM.


#7 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 06 August 2016 - 09:54 PM

View PostArnold The Governator, on 06 August 2016 - 09:46 PM, said:

My 4xLPL upgraded XL engine 11 ton armored Rifleman IIC Prime would like to have a word with your IS Rifleman sir...

That implies it could even get past my LBX10 Urbanmech. Posted Image

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Posted 06 August 2016 - 09:58 PM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 06 August 2016 - 09:54 PM, said:

That implies it could even get past my LBX10 Urbanmech. Posted Image


Don't make me get hostile and get out my stock Urbanmech IIC with it's UAC 10 AND it's terrifying clan er small laser. My clan er small laser shall blot out the sun!

Edited by Arnold The Governator, 06 August 2016 - 10:00 PM.


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Posted 06 August 2016 - 10:10 PM

View PostArnold The Governator, on 06 August 2016 - 09:58 PM, said:


Don't make me get hostile and get out my stock Urbanmech IIC with it's UAC 10 AND it's terrifying clan er small laser. My clan er small laser shall blot out the sun!

BAH!
The moment you slap clan tech onto an Urbanmech, it ceases to be an Urbanmech

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 07 August 2016 - 05:47 AM.


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Posted 06 August 2016 - 10:47 PM

View PostAce Selin, on 06 August 2016 - 09:46 PM, said:

Rifleman IIC

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that would sell like hotcakes or it would of ..


That 235 engine cap though.

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 12:40 AM

40 ton Griffin IIC - Want! Although I'm afraid this will turn out to be as fragile as the PXH
25 ton Locust IIC - Maybe want. Not convinced that PGI will be able to balance this correctly.
80 ton Phoenix Hawk IIC - Want! Going to be quite fun.
45 ton Shadow Hawk IIC - Want!
80 ton Warhammer IIC - Kind of want? I guess PGI will invent a bunch of OP variants with all kinds of hardpoints, but. Meh. No jump jets.
65 ton Rifleman IIC - Want! With the right design, this is the only IIC mech I would consider paying real money for in the near future.

The real issue though, is whether or not PGI can restore faith in the long term health of MWO. All indications are that they're scaling down the amount of resources invested in MWO and looking for the next big game. That makes me not want to spend more money on this game that I've already spent hundreds of dollars on. We'll see what happens.

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 02:51 AM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 07 August 2016 - 12:40 AM, said:

80 ton Phoenix Hawk IIC - Want! Going to be quite fun.


Me too, I'd fire up my clan account for this one. Especially if they ever unf*ck the JJ's for heavies and assaults. A 80-tonner Phoenix Hawk with c400XL would be fun. Think world's largest medium 'mech.

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 02:54 AM

View Postjss78, on 07 August 2016 - 02:51 AM, said:

Me too, I'd fire up my clan account for this one. Especially if they ever unf*ck the JJ's for heavies and assaults. A 80-tonner Phoenix Hawk with c400XL would be fun. Think world's largest medium 'mech.

What would you run on the standard variant? Dual gauss? 4cUAC5?

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 03:00 AM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 07 August 2016 - 02:54 AM, said:

What would you run on the standard variant? Dual gauss? 4cUAC5?


I didn't get that far, I guess I'd have to find out. I spend very little time on my clan account, only ever took Kit Foxes and Adders out. Not sure I've ever fired a clan UAC in anger ....

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 04:00 AM

View Postkapusta11, on 06 August 2016 - 10:47 PM, said:


That 235 engine cap though.
Low engine cap would stop people buying it im sure, so I bet they'd increase it to like 325 for all variants, to ensure it sells well, they be silly not to (something i have stated before, hence, my interest in it).

#16 Battlemaster56

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 05:20 AM

View PostAce Selin, on 06 August 2016 - 09:46 PM, said:

Rifleman IIC

Posted Image


that would sell like hotcakes or it would of ..

I would like to buy that, and if it comes with a awesome paint scheme then I'll consider the collector.

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 05:43 AM

View PostBattlemaster56, on 07 August 2016 - 05:20 AM, said:

I would like to buy that, and if it comes with a awesome paint scheme then I'll consider the collector.

Yes a nice 65 ton mech looks like.

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 05:47 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 06 August 2016 - 10:10 PM, said:

BAH!
The moment you slap clan tech onto am Urbanmech, it becomes the Urbermech


FTFY

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 08:21 AM

I think the Locust IIC would sell well for a light. It should be a solid performer, with a base variant that can mount up to 9 energy weapons, it'll be able to pack some serious bite in a fast and compact frame. It's a combat viable 25 tonner, so people will want it, if no more than to round out their clan drop deck.

#20 Battlemaster56

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 09:04 AM

View PostKadreal, on 07 August 2016 - 08:21 AM, said:

I think the Locust IIC would sell well for a light. It should be a solid performer, with a base variant that can mount up to 9 energy weapons, it'll be able to pack some serious bite in a fast and compact frame. It's a combat viable 25 tonner, so people will want it, if no more than to round out their clan drop deck.

That the kind of thing I fear it maybe to good, don't get me wrong I fully support this thing coming out but it gonna be a huge powercreep and kinda see the forums losing their **** when it get announced, idk how PGI gonna balance it but we have to see.





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