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#21 Y E O N N E

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 09:10 AM

There are zero Lights that are "too good." Even when it was brand new, I never thought the Arctic Cheetah was "too good." Not since the Spider was legitimately broken in the game has any Light been "too good."

The Locust IIC will not be, either.

Sure, it runs fast and has a lot of lasers however it also features paper thin armor, can be dramatically crippled in one salvo of Streaks, and has to run as hot as the sun to fit those guns. Those guns, by the way, cannot be used to alpha-strike with because of ghost heat, which means it must stagger fire. Stagger fire means more exposure time, which is lethal to Lights.

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 09:57 AM

Looking at the heat penalty tables, it could alpha strike with 9 small pulse lasers. But it would probably generate about 95% heat. And since you'd probably be running the minimum number of sink to fit 9 tons of lasers, it's going to take a long time before you can alpha again. Safe to say, the DPS on it would be pretty poor.

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 10:01 AM

View PostKadreal, on 07 August 2016 - 09:57 AM, said:

Looking at the heat penalty tables, it could alpha strike with 9 small pulse lasers. But it would probably generate about 95% heat. And since you'd probably be running the minimum number of sink to fit 9 tons of lasers, it's going to take a long time before you can alpha again. Safe to say, the DPS on it would be pretty poor.


It won't be able to fit 9 tons in lasers and still run at a decent clip. Its standard build will likely be 9x cERSL, with alternates being 6x cSPL, 6x cERML, and 4x cMPL.

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 10:02 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 06 August 2016 - 09:20 PM, said:

IICs are nothing but expensive clan knock-offs.

The less i see of them, the better.

FTFY

#25 LT. HARDCASE

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 10:15 AM

Locust IIC and Phoenix Hawk IIC might break the game. So stronk.

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 10:26 AM

Not sure about the Phoenix Hawk IIC, might as well read it up see what it brings to the table.

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 12:07 PM

The really bad thing about the IIC mechs is that Clanner get improved versions of IS mechs, while IS has to fight in outdated and inferior mechs.

If PGI continues to release them they have to MAKE THEM AVAILABLE TO THE IS IN FACTION PLAY.



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Posted 07 August 2016 - 12:12 PM

View PostYeonne Greene, on 07 August 2016 - 09:10 AM, said:

There are zero Lights that are "too good." Even when it was brand new, I never thought the Arctic Cheetah was "too good." Not since the Spider was legitimately broken in the game has any Light been "too good."

TBH, even during the infamous "Spider meta" I never thought it was that great of a mech. All of the compie players used Jenners or sometimes the Raven 3L during that time frame, because the Spidey has always had too little firepower to be impactful in most cases.

All the Spidey could do (and still does today) is be really annoying.

View PostAlistair Winter, on 07 August 2016 - 12:40 AM, said:

40 ton Griffin IIC - Want! Although I'm afraid this will turn out to be as fragile as the PXH
25 ton Locust IIC - Maybe want. Not convinced that PGI will be able to balance this correctly.
80 ton Phoenix Hawk IIC - Want! Going to be quite fun.
45 ton Shadow Hawk IIC - Want!
80 ton Warhammer IIC - Kind of want? I guess PGI will invent a bunch of OP variants with all kinds of hardpoints, but. Meh. No jump jets.
65 ton Rifleman IIC - Want! With the right design, this is the only IIC mech I would consider paying real money for in the near future.

The real issue though, is whether or not PGI can restore faith in the long term health of MWO. All indications are that they're scaling down the amount of resources invested in MWO and looking for the next big game. That makes me not want to spend more money on this game that I've already spent hundreds of dollars on. We'll see what happens.

You missed the Urbanmech IIC.

I am disappoint.







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