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[Johnny Z]

Top Ten games ever made. Fun topic, add your Top 10 please.

1. Final Fantasy VII
2. Mount & Blade: Warband
3. Fallout 4
4. Mass Effect 2
5. Medieval Total War 2
6. Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
7. Fallout 3
8. AC IV: Black Flag
9. MechWarrior Online
10. Kenshi

Upcoming games that may enter Top 10 of all time:

Cyberpunk 2077
Final Fantasy XV
Mount & Blade: Bannerlord
Mass Effect: Andromeda
Final Fantasy VII remake
Infinite Warfare

Think MechWarrior Online deserves to be on this list? I honestly do. Think MechWarrior Online will move up this list with time? I do. Also I looked at other Top 10 lists on YouTube and this Top 10 list is better.

I did this quite quickly. Any games I missed? Also I never played The Witcher: Wild Hunt and it may deserve to be on this list by all accounts.

Edited by Johnny Z, 08 August 2016 - 04:00 AM.

[martian]

Johnny Z, on 08 August 2016 - 03:41 AM, said:

Top Ten games ever made.

1. Final Fantasy VII
2. Mount & Blade: Warband
3. Fallout 4
4. Mass Effect 2
5. Medieval Total War 2
6. Elder Scrolls V Skyrim
7. Fallout 3
8. AC IV Black Flag
9. MechWarrior Online
10. Kenshi

Upcoming games that may enter Top 10 of all time:

Cyberpunk 2077
Final Fantasy XV
Mount & Blade: Bannerlord
Mass Effect: Andromeda
Final Fantasy VII remake
Infinite Warfare

You posted in wrong section.

Belongs to "Off topic".

Edited by martian, 08 August 2016 - 03:45 AM.

[Johnny Z]

martian, on 08 August 2016 - 03:43 AM, said:

Wrong section.

Belong to "Off topic".

Nope its about MechWarrior Online. Also I think MechWarrior Online may move up this list with time.

[Appogee]

For me, MWO is a top 10 game. But that's because it was love at first sight for me with Mechwarrior 2, and I have remained a faithful lover.

I'd also have MW:LL on the list.

Plus Portal, Fallout, XCom, and Command & Conquer (especially Red Alert) and its many variants, the Elder Scrolls, Sid Meier's Civilization, Diablo II.

You'd have to include Minecraft and WoW and EvE and GTA even though I haven't really played them. Half Life deserves consideration.

Edited by Appogee, 08 August 2016 - 03:52 AM.

[Johnny Z]

Appogee, on 08 August 2016 - 03:46 AM, said:

For me, MWO is a top 10 game. But that's because it was love at first sight for me with Mechwarrior 2, and I have remained a faithful lover.

I'd also have MW:LL on the list.

Plus Portal, Fallout, XCom, and Command & Conquer (especially Red Alert) and its many variants, the Elder Scrolls, Sid Meier's Civilization.

Half Life deserves consideration.

I did play Halflife 2 well after it was obsolete and did consider it but its way to short to make the Top 10. The Last of Us was also considered but never played it. Some day maybe.

Edited by Johnny Z, 08 August 2016 - 03:53 AM.

[Ace Selin]

Johnny Z, on 08 August 2016 - 03:41 AM, said:

Top Ten games ever made.

1. Final Fantasy VII
2. Mount & Blade: Warband
3. Fallout 4
4. Mass Effect 2
5. Medieval Total War 2
6. Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
7. Fallout 3
8. AC IV: Black Flag
9. MechWarrior Online
10. Kenshi

Upcoming games that may enter Top 10 of all time:

Cyberpunk 2077
Final Fantasy XV
Mount & Blade: Bannerlord
Mass Effect: Andromeda
Final Fantasy VII remake
Infinite Warfare

Think MechWarrior Online deserves to be on this list? I honestly do. Think MechWarrior Online will move up this list with time? I do. Also I looked at other Top 10 lists on YouTube and this Top 10 list is better.

I did this quite quickly. Any games I missed? Also I never played The Witcher: Wild Hunt and it may deserve to be on this list by all accounts.

Is this a post from 2012 thats somehow appeared on the forums ?

[Dingo Battler]

1. Mechwarrior 2
2. Counter Strike
3. Half Life
4. DOTA
5. FFVII
6.Skyrim
7. FO3: New Vegas
8.Alien Isolation
9. King of Fighters
10. Gunstar heroes

Edited by KBurn85, 08 August 2016 - 03:54 AM.

[Johnny Z]

Ace Selin, on 08 August 2016 - 03:53 AM, said:

Is this a post from 2012 thats somehow appeared on the forums ?

Nope. No secret games in 2015 sucked for the most part. Games have been in a sort of drought. On the bright side the rest of this year and the next look amazing.

[Alistair Winter]

It's harder to do this with games than with movies. For example, how do you compare Everquest, Overwatch or FIFA with artistic games like Gone Home or Dear Esther? When rating movies, even though you're comparing a short comedy with a 3-hour thriller, you can at least still compare the acting, the cinematography, the cutting, the sound, etc.

Games are much more different from each other, and while some games are meant to be enjoyed maybe an hour or two of your life, other games are meant to take up potentially tens of thousands of hours.

MWO is the game I've sunk most hours into of all games, I think. But would I say that it's better than games like Gone Home, Dear Esther, Sword & Sworcery, or other short games with a very specific artistic vision and a lot more attention to detail and craft? I don't know. How does one compare MWO with Day of the Tentacle or Indiana Jones: The Fate of Atlantis?

I think the only reasonable way to do it is to compare different FPS games and then judge them based on how good they were for their time. Not just in terms of how much you played them, but whether or not they pushed the envelope, did something new, or actually had some deeper emotional value as artistic products, or whether they had a compelling story that stuck with you.

http://www.pcgamer.com/best-fps-games/

PC gamer divided FPS into different categories, like best single player, best co-op and best competitive (PVP) games and put MWO on the list of best competitive FPS games ever made. I can agree with that.

Is MWO better than Loom or Commander Keen or Civilization? I have no idea how to compare them. It's like asking whether a certain wine is better than a Big Mac, to me. They're different things.

[Johnny Z]

Alistair Winter, on 08 August 2016 - 04:04 AM, said:

It's harder to do this with games than with movies. For example, how do you compare Everquest, Overwatch or FIFA with artistic games like Gone Home or Dear Esther? When rating movies, even though you're comparing a short comedy with a 3-hour thriller, you can at least still compare the acting, the cinematography, the cutting, the sound, etc.

Games are much more different from each other, and while some games are meant to be enjoyed maybe an hour or two of your life, other games are meant to take up potentially tens of thousands of hours.

MWO is the game I've sunk most hours into of all games, I think. But would I say that it's better than games like Gone Home, Dear Esther, Sword & Sworcery, or other short games with a very specific artistic vision and a lot more attention to detail and craft? I don't know. How does one compare MWO with Day of the Tentacle or Indiana Jones: The Fate of Atlantis?

I think the only reasonable way to do it is to compare different FPS games and then judge them based on how good they were for their time. Not just in terms of how much you played them, but whether or not they pushed the envelope, did something new, or actually had some deeper emotional value as artistic products, or whether they had a compelling story that stuck with you.

http://www.pcgamer.com/best-fps-games/

PC gamer divided FPS into different categories, like best single player, best co-op and best competitive (PVP) games and put MWO on the list of best competitive FPS games ever made. I can agree with that.

Is MWO better than Loom or Commander Keen or Civilization? I have no idea how to compare them. It's like asking whether a certain wine is better than a Big Mac, to me. They're different things.

I agree with this. But I think satisfaction is the determining factor in a Top 10 games ever made list. A short game could be amazing but may not make a Top 10 list. An MMO may have lots of play time, but not make a Top 10 list. I did think about MMO's and they were not left off that list on purpose.

Edited by Johnny Z, 08 August 2016 - 04:11 AM.

[Rhaythe]

If you're going to label your list "Ever Made", then you'd better damn well ensure that the list includes more iconic games from a wider breadth of history. Your list is more of a "top ten made in the past five or so years".

If you want a true top-ten EVER made, then I believe it would look more like this (In no particular order) (and I'll even keep it PC-only here):

• Nethack
  
• Half-Life 2
  
• Doom (no, not the 2016 remake. I mean DOOM)
  
• Counter-Strike
  
• Bioshock
  
• Starcraft
  
• Homeworld
  
• Portal 2
  
• Unreal Tournament 2004
  
• Quake

And that's just me shooting from the hip.

[Johnny Z]

Rhaythe, on 08 August 2016 - 04:26 AM, said:

If you're going to label your list "Ever Made", then you'd better damn well ensure that the list includes more iconic games from a wider breadth of history. Your list is more of a "top ten made in the past five or so years".

If you want a true top-ten EVER made, then I believe it would look more like this (In no particular order) (and I'll even keep it PC-only here):

• Nethack
  
• Half-Life 2
  
• Doom (no, not the 2016 remake. I mean DOOM)
  
• Counter-Strike
  
• Bioshock
  
• Starcraft
  
• Homeworld
  
• Portal 2
  
• Unreal Tournament 2004
  
• Quake

And that's just me shooting from the hip.

I wont change mine now but Homeworld may deserve to be there. Good call on that one.

[Kasumi Sumika]

1.Armored Core Master of Arena
2.Armored Core 3 Silent Line
3.Dark Souls
4.Unreal Tournament 2004
5.Doom
6.Mechwarrior 2 31st Century Combat
7.Mechwarrior 4 Mercenaries
8.Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater
9.Star Wars Battlefront 2
10.Team Fortress 2

[Bud Crue]

Assuming Video "games"?

Pac-man
Ms. Pac-man
Pit-Fall
Donkey-Kong
Defender
Battle Zone
Qix
Space Fury.

And for the sake off modern games: Civilization IV (II-III were great too), and all the MW games but if you make me pick one, I'd go with MW3.

Edit: I forgot about "Chuck Yeager's Air Combat". First sim I ever played. Felt unbelievable and made me finally buy a computer.

Edited by Bud Crue, 08 August 2016 - 04:49 AM.

[Yellonet]

1. Super Mario World

Then there are other great games such as:

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Fallout 2
IL-2 Sturmovik: Forgotten Battles
Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door

[jss78]

I have a hard time naming individual games, easier with game series

* NetHack
* Europa Universalis (whole series)
* Laser Squad / XCOM series
* Jagged Alliance 2 (excellent mixture of XCOM tactical combat with RPG adventure)
* Grand Prix Legends, or Papyrus Design racing games in general
* Sim City (whole series)

[Sjorpha]

All games? Ok then:

1. Dominions (all iterations, currently 4)
2. Magic the Gathering.
3. Go
4. Master of Magic
5. Null State
6. Chess
7. Settlers of Catan
8. Xcom
9. Roborally
10. Escape Velocity

[Wintersdark]

I struggle to make a list, and the contents would change regularly but typically feature more iconic older games rather than new flashy games.

Constants in my list would be:

Nethack. While Rogue started the roguelike genre, Nethack perfected the style of game where player experience is directly rewarded, and learning how to play the game is what matters more than anything else.

Star Control 2. This is, effectively, Mass Effect but a decade earlier. Everything that made mass effect great is there, in spades. Your choices not only directed the story but the fates of races.

RimWorld. A quite new game, this is a triumph of game design. Take Dwarf Fortress, add an intuitive GUI and cute, clear 2D graphics. A really excellent he.

[Radbane]

1) Interstate 76
2) Duke Nukem 3D
3) Heroes of Might & Magic III
4) Deus Ex
5) Sid Meyer's Pirates
6) Ufo Enemy Unknown
7) Jagged Alliance 2
8) Civilization series
9) Command & Conquer Generals
10) Jane's Apache Longbow II
Bonus) City of Heroes (as the only MMO I could stand for a longer run)

Edited by Radbane, 08 August 2016 - 05:05 AM.

[Ace Selin]

Crossbow (arcade version)
Elevator Action
Starmaster
Doom 2
Speedball 2
Dune 2
Elite
Descent
Descent: FreeSpace - The Great War
Quake
Dawn of War II
The Talos Principle

Had to add

FIFA Soccer 09 (Wii) that was crazy fun when first released

Edited by Ace Selin, 08 August 2016 - 05:28 AM.