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[mogs01gt]

show me how weak IS Med. mechs really are without quirks. I like the mech but geez, ST's pop like balloons when anything hits it....I've lost my ballistic hard point a few times on the first engagement simply because they are soo easy to hit..


Reminds me of the hold days of the 4g getting its ac20 popped..

Mogs

Edited by mogs01gt, 09 August 2016 - 09:19 AM.

[BLOOD WOLF]

mogs01gt, on 09 August 2016 - 04:20 AM, said:

show me how weak IS Med. mechs really are without quirks. I like the mech but geez, ST's pop like balloons when anything hits it....I've lost my ballistic hard point a few times on the first engagement simply because they are soo easy to hit..


Reminds me of the hold days of the 4g getting its ac20 popped..

Mogs

My IIC's do well for me. Depends on the performance during the match. It can be a hard-hitting mech.

[Bishop Steiner]

mogs01gt, on 09 August 2016 - 04:20 AM, said:

show me how weak IS Med. mechs really are without quirks. I like the mech but geez, ST's pop like balloons when anything hits it....I've lost my ballistic hard point a few times on the first engagement simply because they are soo easy to hit..


Reminds me of the hold days of the 4g getting its ac20 popped..

Mogs

Hunchback IIC is a Clan Mech. Just saying.

[Ace Selin]

Arctic Cheeta OP pls nerf

[PhoenixFire55]

mogs01gt, on 09 August 2016 - 04:20 AM, said:

show me how weak IS Med. mechs really are without quirks. I like the mech but geez, ST's pop like balloons when anything hits it....I've lost my ballistic hard point a few times on the first engagement simply because they are soo easy to hit..


Reminds me of the hold days of the 4g getting its ac20 popped..

Mogs

You aren't hiding well enough. Try harder coz thats what PUGs are all about. Hiding and taking pop-shots, which HBK-IIC excels at thanks to high mounted hardpoints. In a brawl it is too big, too square and too slow to be of any real use.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

mogs01gt, on 09 August 2016 - 04:20 AM, said:

show me how weak IS Med. mechs really are without quirks. I like the mech but geez, ST's pop like balloons when anything hits it....I've lost my ballistic hard point a few times on the first engagement simply because they are soo easy to hit..


Reminds me of the hold days of the 4g getting its ac20 popped..

Mogs

General trend the Clan mechs follow is being glass cannons compared to IS mechs. Higher firepower, weak structure.

Though if we compare the 4g with an AC20 to the IIC with dual UAC10 least that potential firepower difference is pretty considerably far in its favor.

[KodiakGW]

Personally, I find the IS Hunchbacks lose their main gun torso much more often than any of the IIC ones lose either torso. Probably because it can be hit from any angle. Even with the extra 30 points of armor/structure there are gone fairly quickly thanks to meta-lazor-alpha.

The exceptions being the 4J and 4SP, which don't have the huge RT hunch.

[mogs01gt]

BLOOD WOLF, on 09 August 2016 - 04:22 AM, said:

My IIC's do well for me. Depends on the performance during the match. It can be a hard-hitting mech.

I played a few games last night but was dicking around with the load out. Had a 4 kill 800dmg match. But maybe Im soo used to the 4sp that I dont realize how weak Hunchies are without the quirks.

[Lukoi Banacek]

Bishop Steiner, on 09 August 2016 - 04:25 AM, said:

Hunchback IIC is a Clan Mech. Just saying.

He is pointing out the lack of durability on IS meds pre-quirks, using the 2C as an example, since its a quirkless medium like the IS used to be. Just saying.

[El Bandito]

Try to really frontload your ST armor. Like only 2 armor in the back. ✨

Edited by El Bandito, 09 August 2016 - 04:55 AM.

[mogs01gt]

El Bandito, on 09 August 2016 - 04:55 AM, said:

Try to really frontload your ST armor. Like only 2 armor in the back. ✨

seriously? That is a bit excessive!

Lukoi Banacek, on 09 August 2016 - 04:50 AM, said:

He is pointing out the lack of durability on IS meds pre-quirks, using the 2C as an example, since its a quirkless medium like the IS used to be. Just saying.

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[iLLcapitan]

The Hunback Iic's Really.... a great fokkin mech and I love it.

[El Bandito]

mogs01gt, on 09 August 2016 - 04:57 AM, said:

seriously? That is a bit excessive!

It is not for the HBK-IIC, which requires a lot of face time to unload its weapons. As long as your mech is over 80 kph, you can position yourself enough so that only your front is visible to the enemy, most of the time. All of my Timberwolves, for example, have only 2 armor on the rear STs.

Seismic module against pesky Lights, for extra insurance.

Edited by El Bandito, 09 August 2016 - 07:49 AM.

[Davegt27]

I sold mine after a few days

they look cool but just to slow and to lightly armored for my taste

funny they seem to be pretty strong when I fight against them but in my hands they where paper

Edited by Davegt27, 12 August 2016 - 11:22 AM.

[mogs01gt]

El Bandito, on 09 August 2016 - 05:03 AM, said:

It is not for the HBK-IIC, which requires a lot of face time to unload its weapons. As long as your mech is over 80 kph, you can position yourself enough so that only your front is visible to the enemy, most of the time. All of my Timberwolves, for example, has only 2 armor on the rear STs.
Seismic module against pesky Lights, for extra insurance.

You are right about the facetime. That is something Im not used to in my other mediums... Obviously I havent played this IIC much, just basic'd it out last night.

[Lily from animove]

PhoenixFire55, on 09 August 2016 - 04:28 AM, said:

You aren't hiding well enough. Try harder coz thats what PUGs are all about. Hiding and taking pop-shots, which HBK-IIC excels at thanks to high mounted hardpoints. In a brawl it is too big, too square and too slow to be of any real use.

this, be a ninja, appear unseen, strike and disappear unseen.
then repeat.

Edited by Lily from animove, 09 August 2016 - 06:26 AM.

[Lukoi Banacek]

Loving mine atm, looking forward to getting internet hooked back (in the middle of a move atm) and getting some drops in em. Just recently added the C variant and finding I really like it.

[Alistair Winter]

As someone who doesn't own the Hunchie IIC, I find them terrifying. Yes, they're glass cannons. But you better get the drop on them first, because they have more firepower than an Urbanmech special attack.

[process]

They're fantastic. If you aren't running max armor, max engine, max jumpjets, you're really missing out. They can't tank, but they're the best second line Clan medium in my opinion.

[Snowbluff]

Davegt27, on 09 August 2016 - 05:32 AM, said:

I sold mine after a few days

they look cool but just tow slow and to lightly armored for my taste

funny they seem to be pretty strong when I fight against them but in my hands they where paper

You have to remember that the stock layout is 100% awful. They run way too little armor and use engines much too small.

process, on 09 August 2016 - 06:23 AM, said:

They're fantastic. If you aren't running max armor, max engine, max jumpjets, you're really missing out. They can't tank, but they're the best second line Clan medium in my opinion.

I like it better than the Stormcrow or Shadowcat. Sure, it isn't as fast, but the hardpoints are better, it has fully customizable options thanks to being a Battlemech, and it can jump (unlike the Scrow).

Of course, I haven't played the Viper yet. I preordered the MAD IIC instead.