167 replies to this topic

[Aesthetech]

ED 1.0 was on the whole better than GH.

ED 2.0 is unnecessarily convoluted with individual weapon values and GH was a more simple solution.

ED 1.0 over GH; GH over ED 2.0. Both are inherently flawed regardless.

[Fester Wan Kenobi]

Get rid of both systems.

[Fightgar]

I think ED could be better buy I'm not a fan of it as of now. I think it kind of sucks. Maybe have ghost heat system and limit alphas to 5 per game or have a charge system as to how often you can alpha.

[Lunatic_Asylum]

Festerwankenobi, on 28 August 2016 - 07:32 AM, said:

Get rid of both systems.

There can be a better suggestions than yours: get rid of all weapons. Leave only ramming.

Seriously, keep GH. There is nothing wrong with it at the moment. Add more hotter maps in the game too besides Tourmaline, Vitric, and Terra.

Edited by Lunatic_Asylum, 30 August 2016 - 08:22 PM.

[Tiantara]

- More maps like Terra - and I go from game. My mech with firepower of 35 max already burning there. And some of them have only energy weapons - so I cant use them on such map if they were taken. Easier than just blow engine at the start and go with another mech to next match, seriously.

[Stone Wall]

ED still in the lead.

[CaptainSuspense]

My only problem is the bigger the Mech the more energy you should be able to draw from. It doesn't seem right that a light has just as much energy cap as an assault.

[L3mming2]

Animalmother233, on 01 September 2016 - 04:01 AM, said:

My only problem is the bigger the Mech the more energy you should be able to draw from. It doesn't seem right that a light has just as much energy cap as an assault.

but a heavy can bring enoug ore fast cycling weapons to spam that 30 damage way more often..

example a med can bring 3lpl's, a asault can bring 6 and fire 2 times in the same duration..

on top of that the assault can (if he deams it a good move at that time) alpha all 6 for a kill shot in echange for a very high heat penalty..

Edited by L3mming2, 01 September 2016 - 05:15 AM.

[xe N on]

Animalmother233, on 01 September 2016 - 04:01 AM, said:

My only problem is the bigger the Mech the more energy you should be able to draw from. It doesn't seem right that a light has just as much energy cap as an assault.

The assault mech's myomers need to handle alot of more weight and therefore consume more energy. If there should be a variable cap then it should based on engine-size divided by ton.

[L3mming2]

xe N on, on 01 September 2016 - 08:18 AM, said:

The assault mech's myomers need to handle alot of more weight and therefore consume more energy. If there should be a variable cap then it should based on engine-size divided by ton.

this realy is not about logic (there is farly litle of that in gaint robots anny way) its about game play... and the goal here is to stop spamable high alphas to make 1 and 2 (ore even 3) shots kills less common, and increase TTK... giving the class with the highest alpha potential to begin with less strict limits would in that contest be a bad idea... ive never heard sombody wine about 6LPL locusts... 6LPL asaults on the other hand..

[C E Dwyer]

Much as I hate GH and as much as I was a big fan of ED in the initial stage.

Phase 2 is a complete pig, because yet again, P.G.I screw around nerfing the crap out of weapons, rather than to use some common sense and adjust the base line system properly.

[Leopardo]

Okay - energy or heat draw or cap. All the same 1 line on the hud.
In case of heat we just need to get the heat points proper and give the new heat generating objects and
Make the sinks work and remove the ghost heat . Heat handicap depends if engine and sinks. In case of gauze give permanent heat points to that weapon. And give more colldown and remove the peumo
Penalties for exiting the heat cap depends of points - movement hud targeting electronic atc

Edited by Leopardo, 01 September 2016 - 10:36 PM.

[Airwolf]

For all you guys that are all over having ED ...

That's your call.....

As for me, well ... ED ... Erectile Dysfunction ... er ... no thanks ... you're welcome to it....

[L3mming2]

wile you would not expect it (with the huge amount of salt you see on this forum about ED) the support for ED is still 9.3% higher then GH. i'm curious how long it will take before PGI will be inplementing it on life

[SlightlyMobileTurret]

We will get the viable poptarts being terrors of the battlefield if ED gets implemented.

If anyone complains when the Nova and the HBK-IIC-A (and to a lesser extent, the SMN due to crazy velocity) become as commonplace as the Kodiak was yesterday upon c-bill release, I will point them to this thread.

[Stone Wall]

Lunatic_Asylum, on 30 August 2016 - 08:22 PM, said:

There can be a better suggestions than yours: get rid of all weapons. Leave only ramming.

Seriously, keep GH. There is nothing wrong with it at the moment. Add more hotter maps in the game too besides Tourmaline, Vitric, and Terra.

I would ONLY prefer keeping GH over ED if all non snow maps had their heat raised while adding hotter maps to the game.

I'd enjoy the game more if heat, ammo, and damage management were top priority over shooting high Alphas.

[rolly]

Fix your poll options. This is not a black and white issue so your poll is skewed. Ghost Heat was a previous bandaid solution for another problem exploitive behaviour by the players, ED is another.

Edited by rolly, 11 September 2016 - 07:57 AM.

[L3mming2]

rolly, on 11 September 2016 - 07:55 AM, said:

Fix your poll options. This is not a black and white issue so your poll is skewed. Ghost Heat was a previous bandaid solution for another problem exploitive behaviour by the players, ED is another.

the question here is not if u like them or not, but wich one u think best of those 2... the moment your "not bandaid solution" has been developed and has its own PTS ill give it a vote option.. ore better yet i'll start a new poll...

[rolly]

L3mming2, on 11 September 2016 - 11:07 AM, said:

the question here is not if u like them or not, but wich one u think best of those 2... the moment your "not bandaid solution" has been developed and has its own PTS ill give it a vote option.. ore better yet i'll start a new poll...

Its not a matter of what is liked or not. Its building a truly relevant poll. You're channeling the audience to suit your argument and discounting other opinions. At very least give an "Other (respond below"). If you're gonna do a poll, do it right. Otherwise its just another fluff rage post that your audience will discount. I'm sure you're not seeking that?

Edited by rolly, 11 September 2016 - 11:45 AM.

[BLOOD WOLF]

rolly, on 11 September 2016 - 11:44 AM, said:

Its not a matter of what is liked or not. Its building a truly relevant poll. You're channeling the audience to suit your argument and discounting other opinions. At very least give an "Other (respond below"). If you're gonna do a poll, do it right. Otherwise its just another fluff rage post that your audience will discount. I'm sure you're not seeking that?

it's a simple do you like the old or new system. It's simple.