148 replies to this topic

[adamts01]

PhoenixFire55, on 23 August 2016 - 04:46 AM, said:

Up to you man. I'm waiting 7-10 minutes on average for a solo match outside of event time. Its far longer than it needs to be as is, anything longer ... I've got better things to do.

Everything else ... I agree.

I run a medium if I'm not in a light, and check Oceanic and NA, and normally it's a minute or so. Only having Oceanic checked was a different story. On average it was 5-20 minutes with a record of 1 hour and 45 minutes as a light in solo que, that was insane. I don't know why that server even exists.

[Mudhutwarrior]

I am pretty convinced it's not match maker that is the problem but instead the vast numbers gaming the system. When you have factions sponsor synch drop channels on TS that degrades the match maker by overwhelming it.

I looked and TS synch drop channels were full this weekend. Maybe many times the drop is split but that doesn't matter when you have large numbers pushing drop at the same instant. It's against tos but because the tryhards and whales dominate the practice PGI will do nothing.

The players themselves killed it. Not PGI.

[PJohann]

Jehofi, on 23 August 2016 - 05:28 AM, said:

So you and a lot of people changed their playstyle and the feeling of the game changed? I wonder why....

TBH one explanation is that you played less the teamgame (drop in W/L) and more the "get-kills" game (thus the raise in k/d). Or did you not participate in the Leaderboard event?

I did not changed anything. Just playin as usual.

[iLLcapitan]

Mudhutwarrior, on 23 August 2016 - 05:33 AM, said:

I am pretty convinced it's not match maker that is the problem but instead the vast numbers gaming the system. When you have factions sponsor synch drop channels on TS that degrades the match maker by overwhelming it. I looked and TS synch drop channels were full this weekend. Maybe many times the drop is split but that doesn't matter when you have large numbers pushing drop at the same instant. It's against tos but because the tryhards and whales dominate the practice PGI will do nothing. The players themselves killed it. Not PGI.

Please rename yourself to Tinfoilhutwarrior.

[Jehofi]

PJohann, on 23 August 2016 - 05:34 AM, said:

I did not changed anything. Just playin as usual.

Then this explanation is a bit of a far stretch. I also played like normal, and was not looking at my w/l, k/d because i refuse to do that during events. But I noticed quite an increase in people ramboing.

[adamts01]

iLLcapitan, on 23 August 2016 - 05:37 AM, said:

Please rename yourself to Tinfoilhutwarrior.

It's insanely common, how have you not seen this? I've never seen where it's banned in the Code of Conduct though.

[Ghogiel]

adamts01, on 23 August 2016 - 05:44 AM, said:

It's insanely common, how have you not seen this? I've never seen where it's banned in the Code of Conduct though.

It's not that sync dropping doesnt happen, it's just that it doesn't game anything.

Everyone has voip and is subject to the MM. People choose to be bad it's on them.

[H I A S]

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PGI isn't giving you MM to produce even matches, it gives you MM to bring your W/L to 1.0 by creating landslides one way and then another way and thus maintaining an illusion of an actually working MM.

That was true for Elo, not for Tier potatoe (psr).
in my opinion Elo was the much better system.

@mudhut: again commedy gold

[Mudhutwarrior]

iLLcapitan, on 23 August 2016 - 05:37 AM, said:

Please rename yourself to Tinfoilhutwarrior.

Dude you do understand the cia created the term conspiracy theorist. The documents exist on the net if you care to look.

All I said in the above posted is documented. Any clown such as yourself can check TS servers and see or do a search here on the forums to see threads on faction pages dedicated to synch dropping days or evenings.

Of course lazy true believers never question, never research for themselves. They throw shade to cover for their ignorance.

You would think that after the literal hundreds of conspiracy theories that have been proven true in the past few years only the most ignorant would use such terms. But never doubt the level of darkness true believers live in.

[adamts01]

Ghogiel, on 23 August 2016 - 05:49 AM, said:

It's not that sync dropping doesnt happen, it's just that it doesn't game anything.

Everyone has voip and is subject to the MM. People choose to be bad it's on them.

In solo que it's not really a problem, as players are just as likely to be against each other as with, and in OP's photo, the guys in the same unit that he complained about had some of the worst scores on the team. But in group que it's absolutely a problem. A 12-man has to deal with severely limited tonnage, but two 6-mans can bring all heavies. With the population as low as it is, it's very common for those two 6-mans to be teamed up together, and pretty much seal club anything. It's not the biggest problem, nothing I'd go out of my way to complain about, but it absolutely happens.

[Mudhutwarrior]

adamts01, on 23 August 2016 - 05:44 AM, said:

It's insanely common, how have you not seen this? I've never seen where it's banned in the Code of Conduct though.

IN the COC

• Exploiting game bugs or mechanics to gain any unfair advantages or benefits, either for yourself, your teammates, or players on the opposing team.
  
• Exploiting or manipulating the matchmaking system.

[mrpetzold]

OP being in tier 1 is why PSR is not working and MM sucks. Pretty much everyone who should be in tier 3 is in tier 1, those supposed to be in tier 5 is in tier 3 etc.

[Mister Blastman]

They need to reduce PUG solo queue back to 8v8 or 6v6, so it is a bit easier to "carry harder."

[Ghogiel]

adamts01, on 23 August 2016 - 06:01 AM, said:

In solo que it's not really a problem, as players are just as likely to be against each other as with, and in OP's photo, the guys in the same unit that he complained about had some of the worst scores on the team. But in group que it's absolutely a problem. A 12-man has to deal with severely limited tonnage, but two 6-mans can bring all heavies. With the population as low as it is, it's very common for those two 6-mans to be teamed up together, and pretty much seal club anything. It's not the biggest problem, nothing I'd go out of my way to complain about, but it absolutely happens.

Group queues MM barely exists as is. And besides no good unit afaik is doing that so you can probably farm them anyway.

Edited by Ghogiel, 23 August 2016 - 06:21 AM.

[PhoenixFire55]

adamts01, on 23 August 2016 - 05:32 AM, said:

I run a medium if I'm not in a light, and check Oceanic and NA, and normally it's a minute or so. Only having Oceanic checked was a different story. On average it was 5-20 minutes with a record of 1 hour and 45 minutes as a light in solo que, that was insane. I don't know why that server even exists.

Same reason MM exsists ... "Hey look! You asked for it, we have it!". Working as Intended^TM.

[Flitzomat]

Mudhutwarrior, on 23 August 2016 - 05:33 AM, said:

I looked and TS synch drop channels were full this weekend.

Maybe you should not only look. Proposal:
Sneak into the channel and say: Hi guys, I know what’s up no need to hide it from me. And then they all be like: "Hey Mudhut, let´s go farm the system like a boss". And then you share this footage/audio with us and we will all clap our hands joyfully while watching all these guys get banned. You can be a true whistleblower.

Instead you just look at a channel on some random TS packed with people and come to this conclusion. WTF.
Well played good sir, well played.

Edited by Flitzomat, 23 August 2016 - 06:29 AM.

[TKSax]

Flitzomat, on 23 August 2016 - 06:27 AM, said:

Maybe you should not only look. Proposal:
Sneak into the channel and say: Hi guys, I know what’s up no need to hide it from me. And then they all be like: "Hey Mudhut, let´s go farm the system like a boss". And then you share this footage/audio with us and we will all clap our hands joyfully while watching all these guys get banned. You can be a true whistleblower.

Instead you just look at a channel on some random TS packed with people and come to this conclusion. WTF.
Well played good sir, well played.

Also the last time PGI was asked they did not have an issue with Sync Dropping, but that was while ago, someone should ask them now.

I have not heard of unit sponsored sync dropping in a long time, I used to participate in Monday Marik Madness which was on the NGNG Teamspeak with 100's of people from all units, and then Commstar TS used to do one that had like 75 to 100 people from different units. I know seraphim was doing it on their own but they stopped and that was over a year ago.


Yep Like last night 4 of my unit were solo dropping in the same TS Channel, no countdowns because I actively discourage sync dropping (unless it was something Marik Monday Madness but that has not run in years). But 2 or Three times of the 4 guys that were in the channel with had at one of them made it in the same game. This was with me taking time to adjust my mech in the mech lab. Mudhut always has lots of accusations and very rarely little proof. I am sure if mudhut had popped into our teamspeak on seeing that there were 2 of us on the same side in the same game he would have assumed we were sync dropping...
Yep Like last night 4 of my unit were solo dropping in the same TS Channel, no countdowns because I actively discourage sync dropping (unless it was something Marik Monday Madness but that has not run in years). But 2 or Three times of the 4 guys that were in the channel wiht had at one of them made it in the same game. This was with me taking time to adjust my mech in the mech lab. Mudhut always has lots of accusations and very rarely little proof.

[Mudhutwarrior]

Flitzomat, on 23 August 2016 - 06:27 AM, said:

Maybe you should not only look. Proposal:
Sneak into the channel and say: Hi guys, I know what’s up no need to hide it from me. And then they all be like: "Hey Mudhut, let´s go farm the system like a boss". And then you share this footage/audio with us and we will all clap our hands joyfully while watching all these guys get banned. You can be a true whistleblower.

Instead you just look at a channel on some random TS packed with people and come to this conclusion. WTF.
Well played good sir, well played.

"The measure of a man is the company he keeps." I don't rub elbows with scumbags and no matter what proof is brought forward scumbags will roll out to deny it. So I know and that's enough. PGI can decide what to do about it because they fully know too.

[Mudhutwarrior]

TKSax, on 23 August 2016 - 06:41 AM, said:

Also the last time PGI was asked they did not have an issue with Sync Dropping, but that was while ago, someone should ask them now.

I have not heard of unit sponsored sync dropping in a long time, I used to participate in Monday Marik Madness which was on the NGNG Teamspeak with 100's of people from all units, and then Commstar TS used to do one that had like 75 to 100 people from different units. I know seraphim was doing it on their own but they stopped and that was over a year ago.


Yep Like last night 4 of my unit were solo dropping in the same TS Channel, no countdowns because I actively discourage sync dropping (unless it was something Marik Monday Madness but that has not run in years). But 2 or Three times of the 4 guys that were in the channel with had at one of them made it in the same game. This was with me taking time to adjust my mech in the mech lab. Mudhut always has lots of accusations and very rarely little proof. I am sure if mudhut had popped into our teamspeak on seeing that there were 2 of us on the same side in the same game he would have assumed we were sync dropping...
Yep Like last night 4 of my unit were solo dropping in the same TS Channel, no countdowns because I actively discourage sync dropping (unless it was something Marik Monday Madness but that has not run in years). But 2 or Three times of the 4 guys that were in the channel wiht had at one of them made it in the same game. This was with me taking time to adjust my mech in the mech lab. Mudhut always has lots of accusations and very rarely little proof.

Actually a few weeks back I did team drops on TS. Some where nice guys. Others well the attitude towards new/casual players was horrid. I will stay with the unwashed masses because they not trying to fool anybody.

[Idealsuspect]

Scout Derek, on 22 August 2016 - 03:31 PM, said:

But what can you do? You can't make players competent by telling PGI to fix MM.

And in same way you can't make PGI competent to fix MM with another 1000th rage post about MM.
But well he is a customer he is right to do it.