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[Rhistar]

I'm in South Korea, and unfortunately can not use newegg or any of the normal online retailers to get my pc goods. I've found the following on a Korean website, but I'm particularly worried about the motherboard, since I can't find any reliable reviews online. Please let me know what you think about it, and the rest of my build.

ASRock H61M-ITX (B3)
http://english.gmark...scode=218801943

SilverStone Sugo SG05BB-450/USB3.0
http://english.gmark...scode=244235505

INTEL Core i3 Sandy Bridge 2120 (3.30GHz/LGA1155/3MB)
http://english.gmark...scode=238851749

[G.SKILL]DDR3 8G PC3-12800 CL9 RIPJAWS XL (4Gx2)
http://english.gmark...scode=242712410

[GIGABYTE]GTX560 UDV D5 1GB
http://english.gmark...scode=212187977

I already have hard drives and i will not be using an ODD

Edited by Rhistar, 17 July 2012 - 06:26 PM.

[Vulpesveritas]

As unfortunatly I don't read Korean, and Google Chrome doesn't want to work as my translator tonight, I will recommend the following;

Motherboard: You're going to want an ATX motherboard, end of story. With Intel, you're going to want a H77, Z68, 75, or 77 chipset. With AMD you'll want 970, 990X, or 990FX.

Case: Silverstone cases tend to be overpriced for what you get, and although I don't know what cases you have available to you, Coolermaster and Antec are generally decent buys, though often there are better deals here and there.

CPU: Looks good, although keep in mind with MWO being strongly quad threaded, an AMD Phenom II X4 (Or an AMD FX-4170) will likely outperform that i3.

RAM: Looks good.

GPU: Looks good.

[buckaroo]

Vulpesveritas, on 17 July 2012 - 08:13 PM, said:

Motherboard: You're going to want an ATX motherboard, end of story. With Intel, you're going to want a H77, Z68, 75, or 77 chipset. With AMD you'll want 970, 990X, or 990FX.

ITX is fine. Not everybody wants or needs a computer the size of a dorm fridge.

[Vulpesveritas]

buckaroo, on 17 July 2012 - 08:51 PM, said:

ITX is fine. Not everybody wants or needs a computer the size of a dorm fridge.

Advantages to ATX:

• Able to handle larger VRM counts
  
• Able to handle larger aftermarket coolers
  
• Able to have more expandability on the motherboard
  
• Generally have better heatsinks for the chipset
  
• Generally have more features
  
• Generally have better chipsets at a smaller price

Advantages to ITX:

• Smaller

Not everyone might, as you say, -need or want- one, however someone looking for price / performance will probably want one I would think. And given the OP's apparent budget based upon the part selection, I would probably assume the OP is looking for price / performance.

[Rhistar]

You know what they say about assumptions Vulpes...

I clearly want a itx motherboard, as evidenced by my itx computer case(interesting fact, going itx is actually cheaper as the case comes with a quality psu and saves me spending 60-100 on a separate one).

I have very specific needs of this computer, and that is to be a portable gaming machine, that doesn't cost 2000 like a similarly powerful laptop would. The question I have is weather or not anybody knows anything about this particular motherboard, and if anybody has an alternative build that will preform better at the same price, or will preform the same at a cheaper price (on average) I included the product names so that you would not have to read Korean.

Edited by Rhistar, 18 July 2012 - 04:44 AM.

[Vulpesveritas]

As far as that goes, i do apologize for my assumptions. Moving on from that, I'm unsure of pricing there, but here the sugo doesn't come with a PSU and is twice as expensive, or more, than competing cases like the NZXT Vulcan, (the cheapest Sugo I'm seeing [which is cheaper than it used to be] is $120 without a PSU, $140 for that model, vs the Vulcan at $70 [and that difference in price can net a Seasonic or Superflower 80+ bronze or gold PSU, which would be more efficient and reliable than the enhance based 80+ basic Silverstone that the Sugo comes with]. Not sure of pricing or availability there.)
While the Vulcan is two kilograms heavier, it does have a handle making it easier to carry, and also supports micro ATX boards so you can have some extra space to work with.

And if available there, there is the COOLER MASTER RC-120A-KKN1 which is (at least here in the states) one third the price, for the same form factor, with a better cooling setup. (although with no PSU in the box, however given the difference in price you can get, as with the Vulcan, a better PSU)

Motherboard wise, it is an older low end H61 chipset, and if you can get it, generally an h77 or z68/77 chipset motherboard will be higher quality, although I don't know that particular board.

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 18 July 2012 - 06:34 AM.

[Breach]

Everything looks good aside the motherboard, Asrock is a notoriously cheap brand offshoot of Asus, I never had very good luck with those. If that is your whole budget I would go cheaper on the case (Lian Li would be a premium but cheaper option than any Silverstone case) and up your motherboard spec.

[Vulpesveritas]

Breach, on 18 July 2012 - 06:49 AM, said:

Everything looks good aside the motherboard, Asrock is a notoriously cheap brand offshoot of Asus, I never had very good luck with those. If that is your whole budget I would go cheaper on the case (Lian Li would be a premium but cheaper option than any Silverstone case) and up your motherboard spec.

Correction: Asrock USED to be a cheap brand offshoot of Asus, they are now the brand name for the Pegatron fab and have the same reliability as an Asus motherboard.

[Rhistar]

I have decided to go with this motherboard instead.

ASUS P8H77-I LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Mini ITX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131841

And for the record, the silverstone is the cheapest itx option, due to the fact that it includes a quality 450 watt psu. Going with any other case would require purchasing a separate psu

[Vulpesveritas]

Rhistar, on 18 July 2012 - 05:14 PM, said:

I have decided to go with this motherboard instead.

ASUS P8H77-I LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Mini ITX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813131841

And for the record, the silverstone is the cheapest itx option, due to the fact that it includes a quality 450 watt psu. Going with any other case would require purchasing a separate psu

Is there that large of a difference in price over there? A quality 450w PSU is;
$60 for a 450w 80+ bronze XFX / CWT (on par with that enhanced based Silverstone PSU)
$65 for a 450w 80+ gold Rosewill / Superflower (more power efficient and better amperage regulation than the silverstone PSU)

and $50 for that Coolermaster, bringing the price to $110-115 vs $140 for that sugo.

So there is a 30% or so price difference? lol

Can't say I'm that surprised though.

Still, a good motherboard pick.

[Breach]

Vulpesveritas, on 18 July 2012 - 06:58 AM, said:

Correction: Asrock USED to be a cheap brand offshoot of Asus, they are now the brand name for the Pegatron fab and have the same reliability as an Asus motherboard.

Ahh, need to update my mind library of computer facts thanks for the correction.