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[Khan Warlock Kell]

Intel Core i5 3570K
Xigmatek Loki SD-S963 Fan
Asus P8Z77-V LX Motherboard
8GB Corsair 1600mhz Vengeance Ram
Corsair 120GB Force3 SSD S-ATAIII 6.0Gb/s
AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB


Thoughts or suggestions ? This system along with a decent case is around £650. If anyone can suggest a better rig for around the £700 mark im interested. The only thing is i do want it prebuilt. I dont need an OS as i already have win 7 ultimate edition.

[Bronyraur]

That looks about perfect. I'm assuming you're re-using the other components. I haven't really found a need so far for more than 8GB of RAM, except maybe running VMs.

What resolution are you going to be running?

[Khan Warlock Kell]

Not sure yet but i have a 21" wide screen hd monitor so hopefully whatever looks good and gives a decent frame rate.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Thats pretty good, and fairly close to this build.

http://www.bit-tech....uide-may-2012/3

Which is a pretty solid system to overclock.

[Vulpesveritas]

You're running a tad bit overkill on the CPU end, a bit below what is optimal on the GPU end, at least if gaming is your concern and you're not a heavy RTS player.
Also, SSD wise, if you can get it, a Crucial M4 or Samsung 830 would be more stable and last longer, if either were your concern.
RAM wise, you generally can pick up RAM which is just as fast, but is cheaper from other brands. Usually without the oversized heatspreaders which do nothing but look cool.

Heatsink wise, the Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO cools a little bit better.

But we're looking at 650?

Motherboard:
Intel- http://www.amazon.co...42287481&sr=1-7 100
AMD- http://www.amazon.co...42287022&sr=1-4 90

CPU:
Intel- http://www.amazon.co...42286155&sr=1-1 170
AMD- http://www.amazon.co...42286160&sr=1-1 80

GPU:
Intel GPU:
AMD- http://www.amazon.co...2287853&sr=1-53 200
Nvidia- http://www.amazon.co...2287826&sr=1-48 195

AMD GPU:
Nvidia- http://www.amazon.co...287064&sr=1-151 280
AMD- http://www.amazon.co...286850&sr=1-119 275

RAM: http://www.amazon.co...2286450&sr=1-24 40
Low latency; http://www.amazon.co...2286476&sr=1-30 45

SSD: http://www.amazon.co...42289141&sr=1-3 85

heatsink:
Coolermaster: http://www.amazon.co...42286348&sr=1-3 35
Deepcool: http://www.amazon.co...2286368&sr=1-17 40


Total cost:
£615-630

Graphics power;
Intel:
AMD- Radeon HD 7850 OC custom Fan
Nvidia- Geforce GTX 570 custom fan


AMD:
AMD- Radeon HD 7950 OC custom fan
Nvidia- Geforce GTX 670 reference

A couple cases I recommend;
http://www.amazon.co...2288121&sr=1-12
http://www.amazon.co...42288121&sr=1-8

Edited for Samsung 830 desktop kit.

Also, if you happened to need a new PSU: http://www.amazon.co...2289339&sr=1-21 75

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 14 July 2012 - 10:10 AM.

[Vulpesveritas]

Oh on the prebuilt, do you have any computer stores in town that migt build you one?

[Shivus]

Stick with the 2500k. While ivybridge is more efficient clock for clock, sandybridge still overclocks higher without temps being a major issue. Running at stock speeds ivybridge wins no question. Overclocked it's more or less a tie if not a win for sandybridge. PCI-E 3.0 is useless since no modern GPU can fully saturate a 2.0 slot, even at x8. Only when going down to x4 does it start to be useful.

[Khan Warlock Kell]

Whats the point in dropping down to the I5 2500 when the I5 3570k is only 20 quid more ?

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Zakius, on 14 July 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

Whats the point in dropping down to the I5 2500 when the I5 3570k is only 20 quid more ?

If your hardlocked into a small budget thats £20 that can be spent elsewhere.
Honestly there is not alot of performance difference between the 2, the 2500k is still a top end processor for the foreseeable future it overclocks better than the Ivybridge and runs cooler.

Edited by DV McKenna, 14 July 2012 - 01:24 PM.

[Shivus]

Zakius, on 14 July 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

Whats the point in dropping down to the I5 2500 when the I5 3570k is only 20 quid more ?

I stated the points.

Shivus, on 14 July 2012 - 01:13 PM, said:

Stick with the 2500k. While ivybridge is more efficient clock for clock, sandybridge still overclocks higher without temps being a major issue. Running at stock speeds ivybridge wins no question. Overclocked it's more or less a tie if not a win for sandybridge. PCI-E 3.0 is useless since no modern GPU can fully saturate a 2.0 slot, even at x8. Only when going down to x4 does it start to be useful.

If you overclock which you should be doing by getting the K variant, sandybridge is better.
If you don't overclock, in which case you should get a non K variant, ivybridge is better.

[Red squirrel]

I am still using my 5 year old Win XP system based on a Core2Duo E6750@3Ghz
So I am also currently looking into a new ivy bridge build myself.


Intel Core i5 3570K - Best choice (in terms of bang for the buck)

Asus P8Z77-V LX Motherboard - Good choice. I guess any ASUS Z77 board will do the trick.
If you need to save money have a look at the ASROCK boards
which are also very reliable.
http://www.anandtech...igabyte-and-msi

8GB Corsair 1600mhz Vengeance Ram - Make sure to check the ASUS memory QVL
http://www.asus.com/.../P8Z77V_LX/#MSL
I also suggest to check if the RAM fits beneath your
cooling solution. The Vengeance modules have very high heat sinks.
I checked them because they are on the QVL but they wont fit for me.
For this reason I will take the G.Skill RipjawsX (also CL9)

Xigmatek Loki SD-S963 Fan - I have had very good experiences with the Noctua products
but they are quite expensive. I am going to use the NH-C12P SE14
(honestly I've never heard of Xigmatek)
http://xsreviews.co....-and-c12p-se14/
http://www.overclock...c12p_se14/4.htm


Corsair 120GB Force3 SSD S-ATAIII 6.0Gb/s - I would suggest the Samsung830 128GB SSD. It's
about the same price as the Corsair and all reviews
indicate it is one of the best SSD around. Also almost
no roblems reported by users.

AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB - sounds good, (I already have a NVIDIA GTX 570)

About the case: If you are not into case modding and prefer a simple case I suggest to you the
Lian-Li PC-8N. It is affordable, well manufactured, solid, silent, and cool.
(10K colder than many other cases) For cooling reasons I would not recommend a case with the PSU
at the bottom of the case.



So here is what I chose for my build:

Intel Core i5 3570K
ASUS P8Z77-V PRO
Noctua NH-C12P SE14Co
Lian-Li PC-8N
Samsung 830 series 2.5" 256GB
G.Skill DIMM 16GB DDR3-1600 Quad-Kit
Gainward Phantom NVIDIA GTX570 1280MB 256bit
ENERMAXPRO82+ II 625Watt

cost 1250€


Edit: I just checked this is about £980
If you use the ASUS V-LX board, 8GB of DDR3 and a 128GB SSD you will be around £770


One final word:

Since many people think it is a great idea to buy a 1000W PSU - Don't
550W will be enough for a build like yours. I chose 625W to compensate for
aging processes in the PSU since my computer runs 24/7 and I plan to use the PSU for
several years.
Here is a PSU demand calculator which I think is reliable (there are others too):
http://www.enermax.outervision.com/

Edited by Red squirrel, 14 July 2012 - 02:28 PM.

[Red squirrel]

Shivus, on 14 July 2012 - 01:24 PM, said:

I stated the points.




If you overclock which you should be doing by getting the K variant, sandybridge is better.
If you don't overclock, in which case you should get a non K variant, ivybridge is better.

As far as I know there is no 3570 only a 3570K. But there is a 3550 which runs at 100MHz less.

[Red squirrel]

I just read that Vulpesveritas also recommends the Gainward Phantom GTX570.
I like this card very much because it is very quiet for an air-cooled graphics card.

[Holywind]

I went with:

Kingston HyperX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 16000MHz
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 Socket 1155 Intel Z77
Intel Core i7 2700k 3.5GHz 8MB L3 Cache
OCZ Agility 4 2.5" 128GB SATA3 6GB/s SSD

I kept my CoolerMaster Cosmos S case, 750W PSU, Fatality soundcard, 2 HDDs and GeForce 450 (gonna replace in a few months).

[Shivus]

Red squirrel, on 14 July 2012 - 02:34 PM, said:

As far as I know there is no 3570 only a 3570K. But there is a 3550 which runs at 100MHz less.

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819115233

[Gabopentin]

Just done a rebuild myself on limited budget.
AMD Bulldozer 4100 quad processor.
Asus M5A99X MB,
Ripjaws 2133 16GB (cos they were a pretty red colour),
Old Nvidia GTX280 set up as fx only, with
Nvidia GTX 560 Ti as main graphics.
Corsair CH100 liquid cooler, keeps processor below 30' under load.
Bought two slaves to stoke the coal boiler to power it.

[Vulpesveritas]

Something to keep in mind, if MWO is your only gaming concern;
CPU: (the FX-8150 has the same gaming performance at this time as the Phenom II X4)

3 frames per second at 1080p.

GPU:

Difference between 7850 and 670: 21 frames per second.
Difference between 570 and 670: 17 frames per second.

As such, if you can afford it, the AMD CPU with Nvidia Geforce GTX 670 is the best option of the two I posted. Though whether there is a store in your area which would build you one within your budget might be a limiting factor here.

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 14 July 2012 - 06:42 PM.

[Bronyraur]

I see a lot of people listing air based coolers, why? I love my Corsair H60 water cooler for my CPU. i5-2500k @ 4.4GHz without ever going over 50*C.

[Vulpesveritas]

Bronyraur, on 14 July 2012 - 06:38 PM, said:

I see a lot of people listing air based coolers, why? I love my Corsair H60 water cooler for my CPU. i5-2500k @ 4.4GHz without ever going over 50*C.

Because;
The H60 costs nearly twice as much as a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO and only cools about 10-20% more.
Watercoolers can leak
watercoolers can run dry

Though if on sale, it is a good deal... it's just not the best option for a budget system.

[Red squirrel]

Shivus, on 14 July 2012 - 03:16 PM, said:

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819115233

Thanks for the link.

I would always be willing to pay the extra 15$ for the K version though.