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#41 Y E O N N E

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Posted 13 November 2016 - 03:45 PM

I'm only salty over the (P) 'Mechs since that's one Locust variant I'll never have. Q_Q

#42 Lyoto Machida

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Posted 13 November 2016 - 05:53 PM

View PostYeonne Greene, on 13 November 2016 - 03:45 PM, said:

I'm only salty over the (P) 'Mechs since that's one Locust variant I'll never have. Q_Q


It's a shame you can't buy the LCT-1V for cbills.

#43 TercieI

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Posted 13 November 2016 - 05:56 PM

View PostLyoto Machida, on 13 November 2016 - 05:53 PM, said:

It's a shame you can't buy the LCT-1V for cbills.


...and that it's not demonstrably better due to the lack of a giant obstruction on the front window.

Seriously, should I ever for some reason need to run a LCT-1V in comp, I will buy the CB version because the view is that much better than from the (P) version, which I have.

#44 Y E O N N E

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Posted 13 November 2016 - 05:56 PM

View PostLyoto Machida, on 13 November 2016 - 05:53 PM, said:

It's a shame you can't buy the LCT-1V for cbills.


I have that one. It is actually one of the first 'Mechs I ever bought.

I don't have the 1V(P), though. It's about the custom geo, not the hard-points.

With Lolcusts, I gotta catch 'em all!

Edited by Yeonne Greene, 13 November 2016 - 05:57 PM.


#45 Deathlike

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Posted 13 November 2016 - 08:50 PM

View PostYeonne Greene, on 13 November 2016 - 05:56 PM, said:

With Lolcusts, I gotta catch 'em all!


You might get a mechpack with Crabs.

Edited by Deathlike, 13 November 2016 - 08:54 PM.


#46 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 14 November 2016 - 08:06 AM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 29 August 2016 - 12:19 AM, said:

No longer for sale, because the majority of the community voted against it, for whatever reason.


Integrity is a good one. :)

#47 Alistair Winter

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Posted 14 November 2016 - 03:36 PM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 14 November 2016 - 08:06 AM, said:

Integrity is a good one. Posted Image

I'm done with this discussion. I'm glad we discussed it, but I'm done with it now.

#48 FupDup

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Posted 14 November 2016 - 03:41 PM

View PostTercieI, on 13 November 2016 - 05:56 PM, said:

...and that it's not demonstrably better due to the lack of a giant obstruction on the front window.

Seriously, should I ever for some reason need to run a LCT-1V in comp, I will buy the CB version because the view is that much better than from the (P) version, which I have.

The (P) stands for Prison.

#49 Lyoto Machida

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Posted 14 November 2016 - 05:25 PM

View PostFupDup, on 14 November 2016 - 03:41 PM, said:

The (P) stands for Prison.


Or penitentiary...penal?

#50 Khalcruth

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Posted 14 November 2016 - 08:18 PM

Is there picture anywhere that puts the custom geometry mechs next to the normal ones, so that the differences can be seen?

#51 BradMang

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Posted 14 November 2016 - 10:03 PM

Here's a few:

http://mwo-builds.ne...derboltcomp.png
http://mwo-builds.ne.../locustcomp.png
http://mwo-builds.ne...dowhawkcomp.png
http://mwo-builds.ne...emastercomp.png

#52 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 02:42 AM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 14 November 2016 - 03:36 PM, said:

I'm done with this discussion. I'm glad we discussed it, but I'm done with it now.


It's a hard point to contest. If you say you aren't going to ever release something again, it is your word, so you should stick to it (even if PGI hasn't always done that in the past).

I have said this before...
Why not push for an all new Phoenix package instead? It can be called "Phoenix Reinforcements" or something like that. It can contain the same 4 chassis, a different custom camo and different colors, and different (or no) custom geometry. Make a different variant per chassis the 30% C-Bill variant as well.

There ya go. If you want it that badly, I think that works without stepping on any toes (in my eyes anyway).

Let PGI stick to their word on this one thing, but still get something along the lines of what you want.

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 15 November 2016 - 02:44 AM.


#53 Steinar Bergstol

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 03:15 AM

View PostPlastic Guru, on 29 August 2016 - 04:41 AM, said:



Wait...
We can get luggage racks? Posted Image
I'd love to have some for my Locust....I think I could mod them into external Streak mounts Posted Image

Plastic Guru


You don't want the luggage racks on the Locust. Trust me on this. They placed them over the cockpit canopy.

#54 Alistair Winter

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 05:09 AM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 15 November 2016 - 02:42 AM, said:

It's a hard point to contest. If you say you aren't going to ever release something again, it is your word, so you should stick to it (even if PGI hasn't always done that in the past).
I have said this before...
Why not push for an all new Phoenix package instead? It can be called "Phoenix Reinforcements" or something like that. It can contain the same 4 chassis, a different custom camo and different colors, and different (or no) custom geometry. Make a different variant per chassis the 30% C-Bill variant as well.
There ya go. If you want it that badly, I think that works without stepping on any toes (in my eyes anyway).
Let PGI stick to their word on this one thing, but still get something along the lines of what you want.

It's not that I find any arguments against my original position convincing in any way. It's just that we're not getting anywhere. To keep talking about this is a waste of time, for me.

#55 Lyoto Machida

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 08:39 AM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 15 November 2016 - 05:09 AM, said:

It's not that I find any arguments against my original position convincing in any way. It's just that we're not getting anywhere. To keep talking about this is a waste of time, for me.


Spite against PGI for other failed promises...that's the reason.

#56 nehebkau

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 09:47 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 29 August 2016 - 01:24 AM, said:

There's no reason at all why the (P) variants are as exclusive as they are, i mean, when it comes to Founders (and now Gold) it makes sense for them to be such an exclusive type of deal, but the Phoenix pack? It's no different than the Invasion or the resistance packs.



Really how is a Phoenix mech any different from a founders mech? Curious to figure out how you justify it. You got a (P) variant because you got in before everyone else and paid money. You received a founders mech because you got in before everyone and paid money. Seems identical to me. Founders paid for exclusivity just like Phoenix owners.

#57 Derring-Do

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 01:24 PM

Now that maybe some of us have read thru this and posted their views. Let me quote my post that brought this back up, and hope for a simple, decisive answer to my question.

In regards to Phoenix Down badge, what is a non-Phoenix mech?

View PostDerring-Do, on 13 November 2016 - 10:57 AM, said:

Sorry to drag this up. I am not trying to relive MWO business practices or the Phoenix package buying experience.

Expanding on the intent of the original post, regarding the Phoenix Down badge. A Phoenix mech is a mech with a (P) after its name, correct?

But what is a "non-Phoenix" mech?
A LCT-1V, SHD-2H, GRF-1N, WVR-6R, TDR-5S, and BLR-1G without the (P)?
Is it any other LCT, SHD, GRF, WVR, TDR, or BLR chassis?
Or is it just any mech without a (P)?


#58 Lyoto Machida

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 01:43 PM

View PostDerring-Do, on 15 November 2016 - 01:24 PM, said:

Now that maybe some of us have read thru this and posted their views. Let me quote my post that brought this back up, and hope for a simple, decisive answer to my question.

In regards to Phoenix Down badge, what is a non-Phoenix mech?



Anything without that (P) designation???





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