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Ad hominem much? In any event, as pointed out previously much of your math is meaningless and not unsurprisingly you continue to deliberately misquote. But hey, why let facts and accuracy stand in your way?
Who am I deliberately misquoting ? How is my math meaningless? You and Intrepid say it is, but you provide no actual facts to prove that statement.
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First, just use US$ throughout. Your currency conversions are terrible. The Steam Store will even tell you the American Price
The Heavy Steam Performance Pack is $50.
Except...you're ignoring the fact or are simply ignorant to this information, that the steam system uses REGIONAL pricing. That is why the steam packs were removed from the MWOMERCS website gift store. I am in Canada, therefore Steam shows me a canadian dollar price for the pack. People in england get a UK pound price. Folks in france see a Euro price. Australians see the Aussie dollar price. Russians likely get a price in rubles. ETC....
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Next he never says the CBills are meaningless; he said, that quoting the MC price for them is. Everyone knows the reason why you have spent so much on MC is because you squander it needlessly. Even not waiting for a sale, purchasing mechs with MC to sell for CBills generates better returns than the MC CBill bundles; however, please continue supporting the game generously, thank you!
Who is this everyone you speak of ? Who are these delusional fools who KNOW why I spent my money on anything in this game. Name them or they do not exist outside of you and Intrepid. I already knew buying mechs with MC to sell for C-bills generated better returns than MC C-bill bundles. I've explained that to many folks for months now. It took me less than a month of game experience to work out that math all on my own.
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Do patterns not automatically come with their colours any more? That would be a big change... probably with the change to the new store I suppose, although maybe it was an all inclusive price before.
No they do not.
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Regardless, even ignoring the sale aspect, you are getting ~$80 'value' for $50. Compared to the value of mech packs that is not particularly good, let alone "enormous". Even if we rounded up to ~$100 worth of value, that is still only 2:1 and nowhere near the value present in many other mech packs. Also, the lack of additional mechs means that their cost (CBill/MC/$) must be subtracted as you still need them for mastery.
So what you're saying is you cannot accept a 30-50% savings in pack item prices, as being an enormous value to anyone. I love how you get to determine how others view deals and their finances.
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Rather than simply listing what you get and declaring that value, the comparison to a $20 Standard Pack is a useful reference and shows just how deficient the Performance Steam Packs are. Add in the difference in Loyalty rewards and it becomes even more glaring.
I have in the past, in other threads, especially in that 28 page thread in the announcements forum, listed how the steam packs break down. Others have done so as well. The only thing the $20USD standard pack gets is the 30 day premium time and 3 basic mechs. No colors, no camo, no MC or c-bill bundles, and no (S) version mechs with c-bill 30% bonuses.
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Consider the Medium Performance Steam Pack is $40; the same price as TWO Standard Packs. 6+ mechs vs 2. 60 days banked PT vs 30 auto-activated. Split those packs IS/Clan and qualify for both IS & Clan rewards vs the MC reward. Pre-order during the Early Adopter Window and receive up to ~13M CBills vs 3.5M. 2 patterns vs 1. Lumping everything else together, the Standard Packs get titles, badges, warhorns, modules and cockpit items vs 2000MC. The only time the Performance Pack remotely comes out ahead is on MC vs items; in every other category it is behind.
Oh so now its buy two packs vs 1 pack math... and that's ok when you want to present your shifted argument and not for PGI when they declare you need two collector packs for the top tier loyalty reward. Right...gotcha. Also you're counting on early-adopter pre-order window bonus items into your math. Right... anything else you wish to stack the deck with to tilt the balance in your favour ? How might you advise someone NEW to the game then, who missed all the early adopter windows for all the mech models in the steam packs ? And banked vs active time...wow...that's a major concern to a new player is it ? They still have to activate it in 30 day allotments. Maybe they won't want to stick around for 2 months of play. Maybe they just want to see how one month of premium time treats them. Again though... you're basing your math on that which the USA based steam player sees.
Here... read this....
https://mwomercs.com...s-in-gift-store
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Qualifying the Performance Steam Packs for both the Inner Sphere and Clan rewards in addition to its current MC reward would go a long way to restoring that value parity. This is especially important since the Performance Packs are not even going to count for rewards in the future
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Founder's, Sarah's and I believe at least one other were all single mech packs. We know you are new, so you owe it to yourself to at least pretend to make an effort to know what you are talking about.
And yet you appear to know little about the math of the game today, or the math for new players, or the math of steam pricing in other parts of the world.
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'Fact' does not mean what you seem to think it means. As has been said, whatever it is you are shoveling is thin indeed!
Given that your facts are garbage, clearly it means something completely different from your way of thinking. And I am just fine with that. Additionally. I find it comical that you're complaining about steam pack pricing when you participated in the June thread when there was a 40% discount on the things, and asked PGI to put them back into the gift store.
http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__5258305
Posted 23 June 2016 - 07:37 PM
Please put the Performance Packs back into the regular MWO Store. Much obliged, thank you!
RAM
ELH
And in that thread as well, Toha Heavy Industries explains the same point about the value of these packs for new players who have empty mech bays already (my own account begun in Jan came with 8 free bays and I think a hundred MC). And you LIKED his posting on it too... so...hypocrite much or what?
Nope, read the package description. 2 "hero" mechs + mechbays + 30 days premium + MC + c-bills + Colors + camo unlocks.
compared to the 20$ urbie pack, you should rather pick up the 40% of light steam pack for 16,79$
Urbie pack gives you 3 bays, 3 normal urbies and 30 days premium
Steam pack gives you 2 bays, 2 heros, 30 days premium, 3 colors, camo unlock for 2 chassis, MC for 5 more bays and enough c-bills to buy an urbie to your liking.
Of course his $16.79 sale price was based off whatever price he saw for a steam light pack regularly. For me, its $32.99 CAD regularly which at the conversion paypal charged me today for postage...works out to $26.11 USD. So again... $20 for a basic pack with 3 basic variants + 3 bays + 30 days of banked premium time vs $26.11 for 2 "hero" mechs + 2 bays + 30 days of active time + 2 camo unlocks + 3 colors + 1,500MC + 2.5 million c-bills. And since the MASTERING of mechs seems so vitally important in your math... the c-bills and MC included in that pack, pays for a raven 2X and 4X as well.
Conversion from: -$48.46 USD Conversion to: $61.22 CAD Exchange rate: 1 U.S. Dollar = 1.2635 Canadian Dollars
Which btw, is also what I used for my math conversion you criticized above, the paypal conversion rate yesterday which was higher being based on what the dollar closed at on wednesday. Tommorow's rate will be different still because the CAD dollar closed up half a cent at the close of trading today.
Edited by draiocht, 06 September 2016 - 08:50 PM.
unconstructive, insults
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TercieI, on 01 September 2016 - 06:55 PM, said:
