111 replies to this topic

[Bishop Steiner]

Centurion72, on 01 September 2016 - 01:05 PM, said:

Simply double the LRM's heat generation.

Game is getting quite boring with the lrm spamming nowadays.
My solution is easy, practical and reduces lrms to what they should be: a secondary support weapon.
Not the button-mashing/win-all **** they are now.

Bye

or...learn to use cover, since LRMs are laughably bad anywhere but Polar Highlands (where they are still generally easy to negate) if you have any tactical awareness.

You see, the best option, instead of requesting Devs hold hands? GitGud, son.

Levi Porphyrogenitus, on 01 September 2016 - 01:46 PM, said:

How to counter LRM spam:

1 - Bring ECM. It makes you perfectly safe, outside of a few specific situations.
2 - Use cover. It makes you perfectly safe, in all situations.
3 - Use Radar Deprivation. It makes concealment almost as good as cover, making you perfectly safe, outside of a few specific situations.
4 - Bring AMS. It will help protect your team, and you, from LRMs. The more people who bring it, the safer everyone is.
5 - Get close. IS LRMs do 0 damage inside 180m, and cLRMs do less damage the closer you are. If you see an LRM boat, walk up to him and get a free kill.
6 - Shoot UAVs. This one should probably be number 1, but since I'm listing these in the order that I think of them, I'll leave it here. Probably the number 1 contributor to getting lurmed to death is people not policing the sky. See a UAV? Say something if you can't shoot it, or kill the thing if you can.
7 - Let your team know when somebody gets hit by a NARC. It's simple courtesy, and if you do it for them, maybe they'll do it for you.

but but but...that requires effort on my part!!!! It's so much better and easier to cry foul! It's how we do it in the real world when we don't like something...cry and cray and cry until the politicians legislate anything we might find offensive or challenging away.......

RestosIII, on 01 September 2016 - 01:49 PM, said:

Also, remember that at the bottom left of your screen, if you've been NARC'd, there's a little indicator that pops up.

only took what, a year and a half of me pestering Russ to get that blasted thing in..... :/

[El Bandito]

Damn it, I wanted to bash OP for wanting to nerf already bad LRMs, but after seeing everyone had their go, my enthusiasm just deflated.

Edited by El Bandito, 01 September 2016 - 03:53 PM.

[MortZA]

Please note that a friendly assault mech also counts as cover.

[Bishop Steiner]

MortZA, on 01 September 2016 - 03:54 PM, said:

Please note that a friendly assault mech also counts as cover.

nothing counters LRMs like your friendly neighborhood, sneaky as hell HBK-4G. AC20 luvin at PBR is the best medicine ever for ending SPAM issues.

[SamsungNinja]

Monkey Lover, on 01 September 2016 - 01:16 PM, said:

They need to buff Los damage and try to turn it into more of a skill based weapon. Right now no one should bring it into battle because it's so bad.

Someone doesn't understand the need for support roles and the types of people that prefer them. A good LRM user makes excellent brawl support. The range meta dominance is jacking with role distinction and LRMs get left standing there with their thumbs up their butts.

Bringing some LRMs on your medium-range support 'mechs with a brawl-heavy team is amazingly fun. Just no boats. Boats are silly. In addition to being great brawl support, they are great for psychological warfare. Most good pilots know how to avoid LRMs, and you can use this to influence their behavior. Most bad pilots panic, and you can take advantage of that.

Part of MWO's problems is rooted in its lack of defined roles. This is something games like Rainbow Six Siege or Overwatch provide in spades.

TL;DR: Support weapons are for support-minded players and shouldn't be changed to suit front line players' interests.

KHETTI, on 01 September 2016 - 03:28 PM, said:

Players that revert to lrm spam builds during events are basically advertising the lack of confidence they have in their own piloting abilities.

I find LRM-centric builds are a nice way to shake things up and provide my brain a much-needed reprieve when I feel my gameplay start to stagnate during events. I take a break from the brawl to sit back and provide artillery support. After a few games, I'll be back in my brawlers.

I do this, in particular, when I start to get upset because I've been making poor decisions and just can't seem to get in the zone and play well. Sometimes you just need to do something different and then return to your usual fare.

That being said, I don't really disagree with you. I do think that such a stark statement deserved a little Devil's Advocate action, though.

Bishop Steiner, on 01 September 2016 - 03:57 PM, said:

nothing counters LRMs like your friendly neighborhood, sneaky as hell HBK-4G. AC20 luvin at PBR is the best medicine ever for ending SPAM issues.

I read PBR as "Pabst Blue Ribbon" and couldn't wrap my head around what a Hunchback had to do with cheap hipster beer.

Thanks for the laugh.

Edited by SamsungNinja, 01 September 2016 - 04:04 PM.

[JC Daxion]

What LRM's should need tools to blind fire.. aka Tag, Narc, or UAV..

and then a Direct fire buff..



The blind fire thing is the biggest issue with new players.. and honestly should be removed with out the tools. So lighten up on the new guy..

Edited by JC Daxion, 01 September 2016 - 04:14 PM.

[Felicitatem Parco]

I think a general rule for the forums should be that anyone who complains about lrms must post their load out and show us how much antimissile system ammo they are carrying.

If they don't have any then their account should be notated as HOPELESS just like those "banned" cheater accounts.

Edited by Prosperity Park, 01 September 2016 - 04:26 PM.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

wow, got 4 likes by bishop lol

[nehebkau]

Centurion72, on 01 September 2016 - 01:05 PM, said:

Simply double the LRM's heat generation.

Game is getting quite boring with the lrm spamming nowadays.
My solution is easy, practical and reduces lrms to what they should be: a secondary support weapon.
Not the button-mashing/win-all **** they are now.

Bye

No,
Make LRMs fire and forget, do 1 damage +.5 splash per hit and drop the ammo per ton to 20 per ton.

[Bishop Steiner]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 01 September 2016 - 04:26 PM, said:

wow, got 4 likes by bishop lol

Probably the booze....

[UnofficialOperator]

Centurion72, on 01 September 2016 - 01:05 PM, said:

Simply double the LRM's heat generation.

Game is getting quite boring with the lrm spamming nowadays.
My solution is easy, practical and reduces lrms to what they should be: a secondary support weapon.
Not the button-mashing/win-all **** they are now.

Bye

If you could show us your tier, we could better analyze your situation. Seldom see lrms in my matches.

[Novakaine]

Oh now I remember the match.
Nobody out-lurms Novakaine Nobody.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

[InspectorG]

MortZA, on 01 September 2016 - 03:54 PM, said:

Please note that a friendly assault mech also counts as cover.

The Locusts's privilege.

[Dee Eight]

Bear in mind this is the english dub of the original Science Ninja Team Gathaman and not the american Battle of the Planets version (so the dialogue and character names are different as well as the animation hasn't been trimmed) BUT....

[SamsungNinja]

-=[ ENGAGE LRM SPAM ]=-



Poor tank caught out in the open with no cover.



Don't feel bad, though. He should have just shot the missile.

Edited by SamsungNinja, 01 September 2016 - 05:13 PM.

[Mole]

SamsungNinja, on 01 September 2016 - 05:09 PM, said:

Poor tank caught out in the open with no cover.

Noob shouldn't have been out in the open without ECM anyway.

[Navid A1]

Centurion72, on 01 September 2016 - 01:05 PM, said:

Simply double the LRM's heat generation.

Game is getting quite boring with the lrm spamming nowadays.
My solution is easy, practical and reduces lrms to what they should be: a secondary support weapon.
Not the button-mashing/win-all **** they are now.

Bye

Players like you are poison to this game.
You get owned by the SH*TIEST weapon in game and you have the nerve to ask for even more nerfs?

My advice?: GET..... GOOD!
KEEP CALM... and GET REKT!

And no... I'm not a lurm spammer... so save your keyboard!

Edited by Navid A1, 01 September 2016 - 05:27 PM.

[SamsungNinja]

Navid A1, on 01 September 2016 - 05:25 PM, said:

Players like you are poison to this game.
You get owned by the SH*TIEST weapon in game and you have the nerve to ask for even more nerfs?

My advice?: GET..... GOOD!
KEEP CALM... and GET REKT!

And no... I'm not a lurm spammer... so save your keyboard!

Kodakkayaks running rampant and someone's complaining about LRMs.

Sounds like General Discussion.

[Ace Selin]

Centurion72, on 01 September 2016 - 01:05 PM, said:

Simply double the LRM's heat generation.

Game is getting quite boring with the lrm spamming nowadays.
My solution is easy, practical and reduces lrms to what they should be: a secondary support weapon.
Not the button-mashing/win-all **** they are now.

Bye

Yes sounds totally, LRMs are too good as they are now and should be reduced to a support weapon.
After hundreds of these threads for the love of all that is good PGI, pls nerf the uber OP LRMs.