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[Koniving]

In order to get the Clan top tier reward, I need to spend 60 dollars. There isn't much of a way around it really.

Either I get the Huntsman collector's pack (20 dollars; as I already have the Huntsman) + a collector version of one other Clan single package (the other 40)...

Or I go over to Invasion III, and upgrade from Shadow Cat all the way to Executioner (60 dollars).

Either way I get six unique variants (not including reward) for 60 dollars and two 30% cbill earning variants.
In the collector packs from what I understand I'll have a second copy of the two chassis in question; the standard and collector (S) versions to bring the total mechs up to 8. In the Invasion I won't get the extra 'standard' versions of regular chassis.

The question therefore, is what are the recommendations of what to get in order to qualify?
(Origins would bring me up to 80, which is unattainable at the moment).

Edited by Koniving, 31 August 2016 - 04:18 AM.

[El Bandito]

Buy Huntsman pack with Night Gyr pack, if you didn't get it. You will have way more fun with the new mech than the old ones you can get for C-Bills.

[XtremWarrior]

Koniving, on 31 August 2016 - 03:40 AM, said:

In order to get the Clan top tier reward, I need to spend 60 dollars. There isn't much of a way around it really.

Either I get the Huntsman collector's pack (20 dollars; as I already have the Huntsman) + a collector version of one other Clan single package (the other 40)...

Or I go over to Invasion III, and upgrade from Shadow Cat all the way to Executioner (60 dollars).

Either way I get six unique variants (not including reward) for 60 dollars and two 30% cbill earning variants.
In the collector packs from what I understand I'll have a second copy of the two chassis in question; the standard and collector (S) versions to bring the total mechs up to 8. In the Invasion I won't get the extra 'standard' versions of regular chassis.

The question therefore, is what are the recommendations of what to get in order to qualify?
(Origins would bring me up to 80, which is unattainable at the moment).

I also took the wave III Shadow Cat pack when it cames out and am seriously on the fence about leveling it up to Executioner.
60$ is the price of a full game but the Summoner variants bring the much awaited side torso with an E hardpoint, which will probably not be released for the commun folks until a year after it's implementation...
I don't really care for the Hellbringer reward (though i have bought 3 variants for CBills a while ago - but it's the only Mech i have that isn't even fully basic-ed).

I think i'll wait till last days to decide if the game is worth the extra money (depending on the direction ED will go, mostly).

[Lostdragon]

I find myself really wanting the Summoner variants but the cheapest option for me is to spend $35 to upgrade to Collector's Kodiak pack with reinforcement add on. I have no interest in the additional KDK variants nor do I care about getting the cbill bonus on the base variant, so essentially I would wind up paying $35 for two Summoners. That doesn't sound very appealing when the reality is I only want one omnipod from each of those mechs and once I own them I still can't have more than one copy of those omnipods to kit out multiple variants with some sweet high mounted E HP. It is a really hard sell for me, especially with how much I am dissatisfied with the general state and direction of the game at the moment.

[Koniving]

Lostdragon, on 31 August 2016 - 05:21 AM, said:

I find myself really wanting the Summoner variants but the cheapest option for me is to spend $35 to upgrade to Collector's Kodiak pack with reinforcement add on. I have no interest in the additional KDK variants nor do I care about getting the cbill bonus on the base variant, so essentially I would wind up paying $35 for two Summoners. That doesn't sound very appealing when the reality is I only want one omnipod from each of those mechs and once I own them I still can't have more than one copy of those omnipods to kit out multiple variants with some sweet high mounted E HP. It is a really hard sell for me, especially with how much I am dissatisfied with the general state and direction of the game at the moment.

I don't believe the reinforcement addon would give you jack. Now Collector's pack, sure... but that's a 20 dollar upgrade.
Reinforcement won't give you much and don't tell me the reinforcement is more than 15 dollars if you are getting it through the collector side of things; that would suck.

Need 2 collector editions on the Clan side... reinforcements should have little to nothing to do with it. o.O; Otherwise I'd be doing that because more unique variants.

[Jackal Noble]

Lostdragon, on 31 August 2016 - 05:21 AM, said:

I find myself really wanting the Summoner variants but the cheapest option for me is to spend $35 to upgrade to Collector's Kodiak pack with reinforcement add on. I have no interest in the additional KDK variants nor do I care about getting the cbill bonus on the base variant, so essentially I would wind up paying $35 for two Summoners. That doesn't sound very appealing when the reality is I only want one omnipod from each of those mechs and once I own them I still can't have more than one copy of those omnipods to kit out multiple variants with some sweet high mounted E HP. It is a really hard sell for me, especially with how much I am dissatisfied with the general state and direction of the game at the moment.

How do you figure? It's only 20 dollars for you to upgrade to the collectors pack and thus be eligible, that's based off my impression that you have the basic. You don't need the reinforcement, just collector...

[TheStrider]

Wave 3 gets you Ebon Jag, which is my favorite Clan Heavy. (Yes I have the Timberwolf)
The Executioner is a love/hate mech. I've enjoyed mine since I finished elites. If you go this route, you would get the extra colors and toys from the extra faction packs.

If you buy the Maurader IIC, you get an extra mech and the pre-order bonuses, presuming you make your decision today...

You don't have the Kodiak? Dollars to cbills it's the best value for your money - 4x100 Ton Clan mechs all with 400XL, Endo and DHS.

[Myantra]

TheStrider, on 31 August 2016 - 05:58 AM, said:

Wave 3 gets you Ebon Jag, which is my favorite Clan Heavy. (Yes I have the Timberwolf)
The Executioner is a love/hate mech. I've enjoyed mine since I finished elites. If you go this route, you would get the extra colors and toys from the extra faction packs.

I go back and forth between the Ebon Jaguar and Hellbringer, but I like them both. The Ebon Jaguar is definitely a solid investment toward loyalty rewards. As for the Executioner, I definitely second it being a love/hate Mech. It could have been an excellent Mech, but the locked jumpjets and MASC rob it of the tonnage to build what one would think a 95-ton assault Mech should have. That said, when you find a loadout you can work with, the jumpjets and MASC allow it to play very differently from most assault Mechs. Once elited, a 70kph normal speed and 90kph with MASC can get you out of sticky situations that would result in death with most other assaults.

I also agree about the Kodiak. If you do not have it, and have to spend cash to qualify for rewards, it is probably the best single investment there is currently.

[Wintersdark]

El Bandito, on 31 August 2016 - 03:45 AM, said:

Buy Huntsman pack with Night Gyr pack, if you didn't get it. You will have way more fun with the new mech than the old ones you can get for C-Bills.

Yeah.

Wave 3 is decent with the excellent Ebon Jag, but your still paying 60 for one good mech and one "meh" mech.

You've got the Huntsman, so upgrading that to collectors gets you cbill bonus, more premium time, and a smexy pattern (only the later likely useful to you), but is only 20.

The night gyr, though, new and shiny, looks badass, may have a cool glowing feature... I figure 40 there is better than upgrading the old pack.

Either you have cbills and could buy the ebj's with them, or the two collector variants and premium time will help you earn the cbills and buy em.

[Lostdragon]

Koniving, on 31 August 2016 - 05:42 AM, said:

I don't believe the reinforcement addon would give you jack. Now Collector's pack, sure... but that's a 20 dollar upgrade.
Reinforcement won't give you much and don't tell me the reinforcement is more than 15 dollars if you are getting it through the collector side of things; that would suck.

Need 2 collector editions on the Clan side... reinforcements should have little to nothing to do with it. o.O; Otherwise I'd be doing that because more unique variants.

JackalBeast, on 31 August 2016 - 05:50 AM, said:

How do you figure? It's only 20 dollars for you to upgrade to the collectors pack and thus be eligible, that's based off my impression that you have the basic. You don't need the reinforcement, just collector...

I failed to read the fine print correctly, so I would have to buy the KDK Collector's pplus another base pack and Collector's pack so I am looking at $60 for the two omnipods, and that definitely isn't going to hqppen.

[Appogee]

I refuse to be milked further.

If they want to 'appreciate' me as a customer they can damn well give me things (as they are, to an extent) rather than come up with contrived formulas to try to milk me into 'upgrading' to Collectors Packs - which happen to be the worst value for money they've ever offered.

$20 for one Mech, a lazy duplicate of a Mech I already bought, with an (S) after it's name...?! I'd rather buy snake oil.

Edited by Appogee, 31 August 2016 - 06:31 AM.

[Koniving]

I do agree, I'm not a fan of the collector packs being 20 dollars more for a single mech with a unique paint scheme and 30% cbill bonus... when at least in the past the special versions had unique geometry that made them look different. These more expensive collector models don't even have that.

Since the combined IS Clan top tier rewards kinda suck (a gatling gun warhorn; neat but not enough on its own), I think I'll re-evaluate how much value the Summoner loyalty variant would have for me such as whether it has anything truly unique or not for the CT.

[Lostdragon]

Appogee, on 31 August 2016 - 06:30 AM, said:

I refuse to be milked further.

If they want to 'appreciate' me as a customer they can damn well give me things (as they are, to an extent) rather than come up with contrived formulas to try to milk me into 'upgrading' to Collectors Packs - which happen to be the worst value for money they've ever offered.

$20 for one Mech, a lazy duplicate of a Mech I already bought, with an (S) after it's name...?! I'd rather buy snake oil.

The frustrating part is they could be printing money if the offered stuff like an MC only module or one use token that gave 30% cbill boost to any mech, custom geometry, MC transfer fees to gift any owned mech to another player, and skill trees with interesting choices (as opposed to just buy them all) that require a token purchased with MC to reset. Those are the types of micro transactions that if reasonably priced would likely convert many more players and keep players spending on mechs they already own.

[Appogee]

Lostdragon, on 31 August 2016 - 06:44 AM, said:

The frustrating part is they could be printing money if the offered stuff like an MC only module or one use token that gave 30% cbill boost to any mech, custom geometry, MC transfer fees to gift any owned mech to another player, and skill trees with interesting choices (as opposed to just buy them all) that require a token purchased with MC to reset. Those are the types of micro transactions that if reasonably priced would likely convert many more players and keep players spending on mechs they already own.

Word.

But that would require some kind of effort from PGI. So Instead, we get the ultimate in laziness ... asking us to pay an extra $20 for a duplicate Mech.

I can't understand why anyone buys a Collectors Pack, ever. Especially when a unique Hero variant costs less.

[El Bandito]

Appogee, on 31 August 2016 - 06:50 AM, said:

I can't understand why anyone buys a Collectors Pack, ever. Especially when a unique Hero variant costs less.

On some chassis, the (S) variant might have better hardpoints/quirks than the Hero variant. In such cases, buying it for 40 dollars is better deal than spending 35 for the hero.

Edited by El Bandito, 31 August 2016 - 06:59 AM.

[Requiemking]

One solution I've seen to the whole "Collector's pack value" problem is that, with the Collector's pack, making all the mechs purchased into special variants.

[Bishop Steiner]

I made the easiest choice of all.

Not to care. I won't get several of the Loyalty Mechs, for the first time since MWO started offering them.

A year ago, I would have cared. Now?

MEH

That said, I think the Huntsman/Night Gyr combo mentioned early on, sounds like the way to go if one is going to try. Not interested in the Marauder IIC?

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 31 August 2016 - 07:20 AM.

[Koniving]

Requiemking, on 31 August 2016 - 07:02 AM, said:

One solution I've seen to the whole "Collector's pack value" problem is that, with the Collector's pack, making all the mechs purchased into special variants.

I like this a lot, actually.
Or a second copy of each that is 'special' as opposed to not special.

[Metus regem]

Bishop Steiner, on 31 August 2016 - 07:18 AM, said:

I made the easiest choice of all.

Not to care. I won't get several of the Loyalty Mechs, for the first time since MWO started offering them.

A year ago, I would have cared. Now?

MEH

That said, I think the Huntsman/Night Gyr combo mentioned early on, sounds like the way to go if one is going to try. Not interested in the Marauder IIC?

I know the feeling... I'm getting stuck with the IS loyalty mechs, and I just don't care, nor do I want them... They are just so ugly with that paint... Only one I wanted, and still want is the Loyalty CN9-AH... the only one of the three fates I'm missing.

[Koniving]

Bishop Steiner, on 31 August 2016 - 07:18 AM, said:

That said, I think the Huntsman/Night Gyr combo mentioned early on, sounds like the way to go if one is going to try. Not interested in the Marauder IIC?

Marauder IIC has some perks to it. Though already have a Marauder.

Night Gyr does have that intrigue on "Laser Heatsinks" but I can already figure on how PGI would handle it. "Glow in the dark feature!"

Kodiak's got the best bang for the buck.

I love the Cauldron Born and am sad I don't have it yet. Executioner's got a passing interest since I know it is canonically the tallest mech until 3065 during FASA's days, so there is that.