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#1 razenWing

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 03:57 PM

Does it suffer the same penalty as other IS mechs with XL engine? I mean, technically, this is an IS mech made based off of Clan tech right? I mean, even the default variants came with XL engines. (Where as everything else, they are supposed to have standard, so aside from special variants, all IS mech came with stock standard)

So should/is bushwacker the first IS mech that can equip XL engine without getting torso checked?

Is it the first hybrid mech???

Looking forward to see how this is going to be resolved.

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 03:58 PM

Inner Sphere mechs use Inner Sphere tech in this game...what a concept.

#3 razenWing

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 04:02 PM

View PostFupDup, on 08 September 2016 - 03:58 PM, said:

Inner Sphere mechs use Inner Sphere tech in this game...what a concept.


Yea, but the developers also devoted quite a bit of energy to at least appease the lore crowd. Bushwacker is clearly an Inner Sphere Clan mech. (lore and otherwise) So there's an inherent conflict there.

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 04:05 PM

View PostrazenWing, on 08 September 2016 - 04:02 PM, said:


Yea, but the developers also devoted quite a bit of energy to at least appease the lore crowd. Bushwacker is clearly an Inner Sphere Clan mech. (lore and otherwise) So there's an inherent conflict there.

The Clan part was just using the Vulture as an inspiration for the mech's body shape, it had nothing to do with literally using Clan tech.

#5 Lyoto Machida

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 04:05 PM

View PostFupDup, on 08 September 2016 - 03:58 PM, said:

Inner Sphere mechs use Inner Sphere tech in this game...what a concept.


Don't be so sure about that...this isn't BT/Lore.

#6 Pariah Devalis

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 04:05 PM

View PostrazenWing, on 08 September 2016 - 04:02 PM, said:


Yea, but the developers also devoted quite a bit of energy to at least appease the lore crowd. Bushwacker is clearly an Inner Sphere Clan mech. (lore and otherwise) So there's an inherent conflict there.


It really isn't. They used some specs on the Mad Dog in order to lay out the engine systems, but that doesn't mean they were capable of building a compact, durable Clan XL engine. It is still an IS XL engine, but with a somewhat unique engine layout to fit in the mech.

#7 TercieI

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 04:05 PM

You get scads of XL275s to sell if you buy BSWs!

#8 razenWing

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 04:07 PM

View PostFupDup, on 08 September 2016 - 04:05 PM, said:

The Clan part was just using the Vulture as an inspiration for the mech's body shape, it had nothing to do with literally using Clan tech.


Pretty sure it's not just an inspiration for the body shape, but the whole "engine" thing, hence the argument.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Bushwacker

Not sure what engine shielding means. But I'm gonna take a guess and say that just by the literal definition, it has everything to do with this issue.

#9 Agent1190

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 04:08 PM

It says "XL" not "LFE" on the store page. It says "XL" not "LFE" on Sarna. It's IS tech, it's an IS XL.

Have no fear - based on the MEch development year (I don't thing there's an in game year anymore) LFE's are in the prototype stage and are being closely guarded by the Wolf's Dragoons right now.

#10 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 04:12 PM

View PostrazenWing, on 08 September 2016 - 04:02 PM, said:


Yea, but the developers also devoted quite a bit of energy to at least appease the lore crowd. Bushwacker is clearly an Inner Sphere Clan mech. (lore and otherwise) So there's an inherent conflict there.


Nope. But keep grasping.

#11 FLG 01

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Posted 08 September 2016 - 04:15 PM

View PostrazenWing, on 08 September 2016 - 04:07 PM, said:

Not sure what engine shielding means. But I'm gonna take a guess and say that just by the literal definition, it has everything to do with this issue.


Here is the full explanation from TRO:3058U

"Unfortunately this fundamental break with traditional design resulted in a complex and crowded internal structure. The fusion engine’s close proximity to the sensor and communication suites generated internal interference which caused frequent targeting and sensor system failures. Though evaluators were impressed with the basic design and its capabilities, these chronic and apparently insoluble electronic difficulties fairly guaranteed the Bushwacker would never see full production.
This dreary prognosis was reversed by a successful raid on a Jade Falcon base on Twycross. Among other discoveries was an extensive collection of technical specifications and schematic diagrams for a number of Clan BattleMechs. Of particular interest to the Bushwacker design team was the Clan Vulture.Though a more vertical design than the Bushwacker, the Vulture’s interior shared the same compressed volume issues. To compensate, the Clan engineers had made several unusual decisions in the internal layout which minimized the fusion engine’s interference with sensitive systems. Adapting the Clan solutions to the Bushwacker’s unique needs, the design engineers were able to reconfigure the ’Mech’s internal structure to eliminate the electronic interference."

Sorry, no Clan-Tech engine. Also see the RS:
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Edited by FLG 01, 08 September 2016 - 04:16 PM.






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