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[LordNothing]

InspectorG, on 10 September 2016 - 02:44 PM, said:

Where is your Marco for LuRMS????

i dont need one, when i carry lerms its usually a few in a mixed build. one button fires them all, lerms are easy mode and dont need macros.

srms now, they work great in mode 2.

Edited by LordNothing, 10 September 2016 - 04:42 PM.

[LordNothing]

Pjwned, on 10 September 2016 - 03:33 PM, said:

I knew this was going to come up.



That isn't bypassing anything and is an absolutely horrible firing mechanism, not to mention it says you need 3 gauss rifles equipped which puts a huge limit on what builds you can use (pretty much only dire whales or a KDK-3 with a STD engine, maybe something else too) and you can only fire 2 gauss rifles at once so you're never going to be able to alpha those 3 gauss rifles ever; even for the worst of scrubs you're better off managing the gauss rifle trigger yourself than you are taking 3 gauss rifles for any reason.

this was more to prove that it can be done than to actually produce a workable solution. when compared to running 2 pair of gauss on a slowdiak, i think id prefer manual control in 2 groups. there are only a few very situational circumstances where the macro has any advantage at all. poptarters, pokers, and light mechs. in fact im probibly not going to use any of the macros (except maybe the dakka ones, i like me some rapid fire). and in 2 of those you can manually cycle your guns when you get that gut feeling that someone is about to poke.

[Khobai]

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And stop being dramatic. PGI is gonna ban anyone for using macros, no matter how complicated it is.

they might add ghost macros

[Pjwned]

LordNothing, on 10 September 2016 - 04:54 PM, said:

this was more to prove that it can be done than to actually produce a workable solution. when compared to running 2 pair of gauss on a slowdiak, i think id prefer manual control in 2 groups. there are only a few very situational circumstances where the macro has any advantage at all. poptarters, pokers, and light mechs. in fact im probibly not going to use any of the macros (except maybe the dakka ones, i like me some rapid fire). and in 2 of those you can manually cycle your guns when you get that gut feeling that someone is about to poke.

I figured as much because I would imagine somebody who put this together would realize how bad it is in pretty much any practical situation, I just wanted to address the gauss charge being "bypassed" when that's not true.

Edited by Pjwned, 10 September 2016 - 06:50 PM.

[Mudhutwarrior]

BadgerBeard, on 10 September 2016 - 07:55 AM, said:

While I get where you are coming from, I for one am envious of the OP's skill/ knowledge in being able to actually make something like this. I don't have the savvy, and probably never will.

I do wonder how many dedicated joystick users are looking at your post and trying hard not to comment on it though

Seriously, Joysticks are fun and I'm trying hard to get to grips with using them in MWO, but if you use a mouse then you should be a little careful about insulting people who use macros. Personally I'd love it if PGI banned mouse control ( or made mice users have to deal with Joystick emulation) and made this a Joystick/ keyboard ( and/ or pedal/throttle) only game...but that will unfortunately never happen.

Most of the macros I've seen to date are not hugely useful. They may make things slightly easier for less experienced players, but good players don't generally need them and would often find them detrimental.

Won't argue that but its not beyond anyone with a controls background. My issue is with having an ability beyond what was intended in the game.
How does one know they are a good player while using crutches? I don't think I would have an issue with it if the forums and chat were not filled with "Get good noob" or "Steering wheel underhive" I will make and educated guess a large number of the insulters use macros, the latest in gear and other exploits along the way.

Truth is I am not impressed. The end goal isn't justified. Its a exploit.

[Zolaz]

LordNothing, on 10 September 2016 - 01:11 PM, said:

Looks like you can get a job as a Mech Tech, though probably not with Comstar.

[Mechteric]

You need a sticker on the big red button that says "Fire all of ze Missiles!"

Edited by CapperDeluxe, 13 September 2016 - 09:19 AM.

[Natred]

Man that is super cool bud. I commend you for your creativity! Keep this cool stuff up and someone may offer you a job tinkering and building stuff like this!

[Bill Lumbar]

Here is my mod....

gives me 22 buttons, not as creative as yours for sure, but it makes it fun! I don't care what the haters say, building things is fun! I too have found myself making things for this game, including having to open up every flight stick I have used for MWO, and cut the shaft and secure the handle to a horizontal position.

Back in 2013, I used some of my several flight sticks the way they came out of the box. I prefer them to be horizontal which requires taking them completely apart, a hot glue gun, and a solder Iron for some of them. This Saitek X-45 I got with the throttle controller was no exception. Many of the stick I have tore into have plug in style connectors that make it easy. The X-45's wires that are routed thru the shaft of the flight stick are all soldered to the mother board. I had to de-solder them, clean up the board and solder the wires all back in place. 12 wires total to re-solder.

I have also gutted older dell keyboards, which have a chip board built in them. There is a process that you use a wire to short/jump the boards connections to find which combination presses certain keys on keyboard. Once you find which ones make W,S,A,D or any button you want to use, you solder wires to these traces on the board and solder a button to the wires. I tore apart several sets of racing steering wheels for pc, and used the foot peddles and then set the hot keys just like you would with a usb keyboard for the game. I tried using a throttle stick for my left hand, and then the peddles for turning my legs....but it turns out its a hell of a work out when playing this game for hours at a time. However, using the foot peddles for things like narc, or tag in events that require 4 and 5 weapon groups, things like these really help out. Does this make me a try hard too?

If I build or others choose to build a Sim pit..... are we all try hards too? Or do we just need to use Macro's to be considered guys with a crutch, and no skills? For the record, I have never used Micros in any games, (with the exception of turbo fire) back in the day with Super Nintendo, sega, playstation...etc.

I have had several matches when I was mastering my Direwhales and King crabs where I have put the AC'2 hurt down on a enemy pilot, and they got salting after falling from them. It's funny how quick some are to start claiming things in chat after dying in this game.... "cheating, using micro's, only way you can win, bla bla bla..." seriously, lighten up guys, not everyone is using them. Even if they are, who really cares?

Edited by Bill Lumbar, 14 September 2016 - 04:04 AM.

[Mystere]

Mudhutwarrior, on 12 September 2016 - 03:15 AM, said:

Won't argue that but its not beyond anyone with a controls background. My issue is with having an ability beyond what was intended in the game.
How does one know they are a good player while using crutches? I don't think I would have an issue with it if the forums and chat were not filled with "Get good noob" or "Steering wheel underhive" I will make and educated guess a large number of the insulters use macros, the latest in gear and other exploits along the way.

Truth is I am not impressed. The end goal isn't justified. Its a exploit.

You seem to talk as if anyone not using an el-cheapo $2 keyboard and 50c mouse is an exploiter. <smh>

Edited by Mystere, 13 September 2016 - 05:30 PM.

[50 50]

Hahahaha!
That's AWESOME!
The only thing it sounds like it is missing is some specific sound effects when you activate/use the buttons.
Like the pacman dying wawawa or 'game over man' from Aliens.

[Dee Eight]

Hmmmm, I wonder if I can rebind the mouse center wheel to run through fire groups instead of how I use it now to toggle the zoom in/out. I already have a programmable keyboard though, I could easily bind a bunch of favourite buttons to just macro fire commands. Really PGI could solve this problem by just adjusting the code to put a variable delay on the chainfire that players could set in their own game settings. Not everyone needs the chain to avoid ghost heat.

[Chuck Jager]

I have about 10 different macros for different loadouts mostly to match the second shots of uacs to be timed for fewer jams and optimum DPS. I also have some to lock arms while shooting torso weapons, because flailing arms are as good as armor for absorbing damage.

Honestly none of my macros helps more than front loading armor and using seismic sensor in group play and radar derp during challenges. I also really try to avoid craptastic mechs and only bring fully leveled mechs into group play. Macros are probably 3-5 levels lower down the list compared to other things that help players. At least PGI had the balls to say we can not monitor macros unlike other games who have a never ending chase the mouse problems.

[Hades Trooper]

Appogee, on 10 September 2016 - 03:33 AM, said:

amen brother!

[Steinar Bergstol]

Zolaz, on 13 September 2016 - 09:14 AM, said:

Looks like you can get a job as a Mech Tech, though probably not with Comstar.

Well, if he wanted to work for 3025 Comstar he'd have to treat toasters like holy relics of religious significance. I'm sure most practical mech techs working for the houses and merc Companies of 3025 looks at those Comstar nuts and just shake their heads at the idea of someone getting all religious over a piece of Technology.

Any merc Company would probably be proud to have him.