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[FupDup]

Nightmare1, on 19 September 2016 - 05:18 PM, said:

Somebody doesn't know how to MechWarrior, lol.

Cheetahs aren't that tough since they lost their leg quirks and got their hitboxes fixed. It's ridiculously easy to leg them and kill them.

Their hitboxes are identical to the way they were at release.

It was all in the quirks.

Edited by FupDup, 19 September 2016 - 07:34 PM.

[Nightmare1]

FupDup, on 19 September 2016 - 07:34 PM, said:

Their hitboxes are identical to the way they were at release.

It was all in the quirks.

No, they did actually have some hitbox issues similar to what the FS and Spider had. After PGI fixed them, hit reg went up significantly. It still wasn't quite enough to balance them though, so PGI decreased their quirks.

[FupDup]

Nightmare1, on 20 September 2016 - 03:26 PM, said:

No, they did actually have some hitbox issues similar to what the FS and Spider had. After PGI fixed them, hit reg went up significantly. It still wasn't quite enough to balance them though, so PGI decreased their quirks.

I never saw any ACH hitbox changes in the patch notes. The only listed nerfs to it were quirks.

Hitboxes are, in most cases, a scapegoat.

[Nightmare1]

FupDup, on 20 September 2016 - 03:36 PM, said:

I never saw any ACH hitbox changes in the patch notes. The only listed nerfs to it were quirks.

Hitboxes are, in most cases, a scapegoat.

Where were you then? It's been some time ago, but it happened - there was a big to-do over it.

Go back a while and read through the notes.

[Nightbird]

They can't make money from lights, pgi: MUST BUFF EXPENSIVE ASSAULT MECHS!!!!

[Deathlike]

Nightmare1, on 20 September 2016 - 03:47 PM, said:

Where were you then? It's been some time ago, but it happened - there was a big to-do over it.

Go back a while and read through the notes.

I don't remember an ACH hitbox change at all. I think it's up to you to look for it instead. Normally something like this doesn't go unwhined about by the loudest of forumwarriors.

[FupDup]

Nightmare1, on 20 September 2016 - 03:47 PM, said:

Where were you then? It's been some time ago, but it happened - there was a big to-do over it.

Go back a while and read through the notes.

I was playing during and after the release time.

Still didn't see any hitbox changes.

[MrMadguy]

Yeah, Lights are soooooo gimped. So weak, that they can easily kill half of your team after getting 2x 100% ER-PPC shots (hits registered!) + some 5xML and SRM10 (at least 2 alphas) damage from you (Jenner was running around me - I had enough twist speed for hitting him point blank), lol.

[Ultimax]

This is what happens when we let game balance be decided by noisy T5/4/3 bads who can't hit small targets.

We get one light mech that stands out, because it is the least crappy.

[pizzafly]

Ultimax, on 21 September 2016 - 10:17 AM, said:

This is what happens when we let game balance be decided by noisy T5/4/3 bads who can't hit small targets.

We get one light mech that stands out, because it is the least crappy.

10000 times this.

Which is also the reason why pgi decided to volume rescale UP, instead of volume rescale down. Potatoes need big targets.

(not only the lights, I mean)

Edited by pizzafly, 21 September 2016 - 10:26 AM.

[VorpalAnvil]

MrMadguy, on 21 September 2016 - 10:13 AM, said:

Yeah, Lights are soooooo gimped. So weak, that they can easily kill half of your team after getting 2x 100% ER-PPC shots (hits registered!) + some 5xML and SRM10 (at least 2 alphas) damage from you (Jenner was running around me - I had enough twist speed for hitting him point blank), lol.

Are you this terrible at the game on accident, or on purpose?

[Nightmare1]

Deathlike, on 20 September 2016 - 06:48 PM, said:

I don't remember an ACH hitbox change at all. I think it's up to you to look for it instead. Normally something like this doesn't go unwhined about by the loudest of forumwarriors.

*Shrug* Sorry to hear that you forgot about it. I recall it distinctly, and there were forum threads about it. Lest I am losing my mind, I asked several Unit buddies about it last night to be sure that I was remembering correctly, and they all agreed.

As for me looking it up, do it yourself if you're that concerned about it. I'm not going to work for you on it, lol. I personally don't care what you think. You don't have to believe me and you don't have to look it up - that's your choice. But I'm not going to go and do it for you just because you won't.

FupDup, on 20 September 2016 - 08:04 PM, said:

I was playing during and after the release time.

Still didn't see any hitbox changes.

*Shrug*

Maybe you were taking a short break during that time? It's not a recent fix, btw; it was quite a while ago now.

[dervishx5]

Nightmare1, on 21 September 2016 - 02:21 PM, said:

As for me looking it up, do it yourself if you're that concerned about it. I'm not going to work for you on it, lol. I personally don't care what you think. You don't have to believe me and you don't have to look it up - that's your choice. But I'm not going to go and do it for you just because you won't.

Look I did it for both of you: http://mwomercs.com/...hitboxes-fixed/

Up until Nov 2015 the hitboxes were not changed. And I think we'd remember within the last 10 months if it were.

So... Deathlike Wins.

Fatality.

[Deathlike]

Nightmare1, on 21 September 2016 - 02:21 PM, said:

*Shrug* Sorry to hear that you forgot about it. I recall it distinctly, and there were forum threads about it. Lest I am losing my mind, I asked several Unit buddies about it last night to be sure that I was remembering correctly, and they all agreed.

The best I could come up is "videos" of people's inability to shoot accurately.

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As for me looking it up, do it yourself if you're that concerned about it. I'm not going to work for you on it, lol. I personally don't care what you think. You don't have to believe me and you don't have to look it up - that's your choice. But I'm not going to go and do it for you just because you won't.

It's on you. If it were something in the notes, I would've complained endlessly about it. Unless you have a source (especially since it is your claim), then it's not on me to find it.

I mean... if we cite something and can't back it up... that's a problem.

[Nightmare1]

Deathlike, on 21 September 2016 - 03:08 PM, said:

It's on you. If it were something in the notes, I would've complained endlessly about it. Unless you have a source (especially since it is your claim), then it's not on me to find it.

I mean... if we cite something and can't back it up... that's a problem.

*Shrug*

Like I said, I don't particularly care if you believe me or not. It's not worth my time to go back and look for it. If it's bugging you that much, you can go do the legwork yourself. I'm not wasting my time on it.

Regardless of who's right though, it doesn't change the fact that the Cheetah is hardly an OP Mech. It's actually not that hard to kill.

[dervishx5]

Nightmare1, on 21 September 2016 - 03:39 PM, said:

Regardless of who's right though, it doesn't change the fact that the Cheetah is hardly an OP Mech. It's actually not that hard to kill.

For geriatric players it is.

[Tarogato]

VorpalAnvil, on 21 September 2016 - 02:11 PM, said:

Are you this terrible at the game on accident, or on purpose?

Judging by the following quote, I would say on purpose:

MrMadguy, on 09 September 2016 - 11:46 PM, said:

For example all, I usually do - is leveling not mastered 'Mechs in stock or "just for fun" builds. My skill is pretty low - in most cases I rush into battle too actively, don't even know, what to do on some maps, that lack cover, so all I usually do there - is either AFK behind my teammates till enemies won't come closer (to finish me in most cases) or rush into "suicidal" attack, if I'm way too bored.

I think this explains a lot.

[Mole]

RestosIII, on 18 September 2016 - 08:58 PM, said:

That's a disgusting build, and you should feel bad for using it. If you don't have at LEAST the mandatory flamer on your Adder, you're running an Adder wrong.

You're gonna hate what i did to my Adder. I left everything on my Adder Prime stock except two things. Ripped out the targeting computer and used the tonnage for more heat sinks and then ripped out the flamer and replaced it with an ER Small Laser. One of the few cases where the stock loadout almost got it right in terms of being the best thing you can do with it in MWO.