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[Dee Eight]

... means that down the road in the next year probably, we are going to get a Wave 2 & 3 heroes and sale, as well as for Resistance 1 & 2, Urbies and Origins IICs ?

This also explains why they chose the mechs they did for the recent champions build/vote, since they need champions to go with hero's to make more mastery bundles. That means future champion builds will likely be followed by heroes for the chassis which currently have neither (like Black Knights, Maulers, Wolf Hounds, etc). There's now champions for all the Resistance 1 mechs & Origins IIC mechs. Clans need champions for only the kit fox, ice ferret, nova, hellbringer, summoner, gargoyle, kodiak and executioner (not counting the as yet unreleased huntsman, linebacker and MAD-IIC). IS needs champions for the three I mentioned above as well as the Unseen five and the urbie.

Is that something to look forward to or just more things to complain about ? Discuss...

[CJ Daxion]

Didn't think about it.. But Sounds good to me! But seeing that the hellbringer got the loyalty version coming too,, that is kinda like a hero.

[Wecx]

Pgi can make heroes and mastery packs till they are blue in the face. I am not spending anymore money until we get new content other than mechs. I don't pay attention to anything related to mech content.

[Bud Crue]

Dee Eight, on 01 October 2016 - 03:28 PM, said:

... means that down the road in the next year probably, we are going to get a Wave 2 & 3 heroes and sale, as well as for Resistance 1 & 2, Urbies and Origins IICs ?

Is that something to look forward to or just more things to complain about ? Discuss...

If they announce those future sales and heroes with "New Announcement soon! Not a mech!" and then say it is in regard to small unanticipated game content, then Yes people will complain. If on the on the other hand, they simply announce: "Sale starts tonight on Resistance wave 1 mechs!" Then have a sale on Resistance wave 1 mechs, then no I don't expect there would be a lot of complaints.

Edited by Bud Crue, 01 October 2016 - 03:34 PM.

[dario03]

Be nice if we got the resistance or urbie ones now. Be nice to have a new quick cheap option to qualify for the IS loyalty mechs like the Clan heroes did for Clans.

[Mcgral18]

dario03, on 01 October 2016 - 04:08 PM, said:

Be nice if we got the resistance or urbie ones now. Be nice to have a new quick cheap option to qualify for the IS loyalty mechs like the Clan heroes did for Clans.

All the resistance 2 mechs do have unreleased hardpoints available.

[Dee Eight]

dario03, on 01 October 2016 - 04:08 PM, said:

Be nice if we got the resistance or urbie ones now. Be nice to have a new quick cheap option to qualify for the IS loyalty mechs like the Clan heroes did for Clans.

WELL... $10 for a single clan hero is cheaper than a $20 basic pack, but it doesn't come with any premium time and only 1 cockpit item. In terms of the top rewards.. two collector packs is cheaper than six clan heroes.

[Hunka Junk]

Dee Eight, on 01 October 2016 - 03:28 PM, said:

... means that down the road in the next year probably, we are going to get a Wave 2 & 3 heroes and sale, as well as for Resistance 1 & 2, Urbies and Origins IICs ?

This also explains why they chose the mechs they did for the recent champions build/vote, since they need champions to go with hero's to make more mastery bundles. That means future champion builds will likely be followed by heroes for the chassis which currently have neither (like Black Knights, Maulers, Wolf Hounds, etc). There's now champions for all the Resistance 1 mechs & Origins IIC mechs. Clans need champions for only the kit fox, ice ferret, nova, hellbringer, summoner, gargoyle, kodiak and executioner (not counting the as yet unreleased huntsman, linebacker and MAD-IIC). IS needs champions for the three I mentioned above as well as the Unseen five and the urbie.

Is that something to look forward to or just more things to complain about ? Discuss...

The discussion goes like this:

You can see, like a proper business plan, that they have years of mech design laid out and set to a very strict schedule.

The mech design team is professional and functions like a business.

The rest is more like something run from some guy's basement.

If what we have now is basically the end of serious development, this game won't make it two years. It might eek along with the hardcore BT set still paying because they want to see realized versions of elements from the game, but the rest of the player base will be too bored to continue.

Elite Dangerous suffers from its own dev issues, and No Man's Sky is DOA.

When a new online game worthy of its hype rolls in, that will be the death knell, or maybe it'll be St. Ives Blues.

[Wecx]

Hunka Junk, on 01 October 2016 - 04:31 PM, said:

The discussion goes like this:

You can see, like a proper business plan, that they have years of mech design laid out and set to a very strict schedule.

The mech design team is professional and functions like a business.

The rest is more like something run from some guy's basement.

If what we have now is basically the end of serious development, this game won't make it two years. It might eek along with the hardcore BT set still paying because they want to see realized versions of elements from the game, but the rest of the player base will be too bored to continue.

Elite Dangerous suffers from its own dev issues, and No Man's Sky is DOA.

When a new online game worthy of its hype rolls in, that will be the death knell, or maybe it'll be St. Ives Blues.

May 2017, battletech comes out. That's about how long pgi has.

[dario03]

Dee Eight, on 01 October 2016 - 04:29 PM, said:

WELL... $10 for a single clan hero is cheaper than a $20 basic pack, but it doesn't come with any premium time and only 1 cockpit item. In terms of the top rewards.. two collector packs is cheaper than six clan heroes.

Yeah but they are new options and some people don't need more premium time or care about cockpit items. And some people are more willing to spend $10 than $20 even though it isn't a huge difference.

[Dee Eight]

Wecx, on 01 October 2016 - 04:35 PM, said:

May 2017, battletech comes out. That's about how long pgi has.

I don't think a turn based game is really going to replace a FPS for most players.

[FupDup]

Dee Eight, on 01 October 2016 - 05:33 PM, said:

I don't think a turn based game is really going to replace a FPS for most players.

Well, a lot of forumites claim that the BT IP is literally the only reason they're here. The game genre is irrelevant to them so long as it has the BT label on it.

Whether this effect is shown with the release of that other game or not, I dunno.

[Tier5 Kerensky]

I think if Battletech is successful game MWO will draw attention from it as well, from people new or not so familiar with mechs, as they are quite distict genres.

For example I got in when I heard MWO was annouced on Steam, even though I don't have Steam.

[Dee Eight]

FupDup, on 01 October 2016 - 05:36 PM, said:

Well, a lot of forumites claim that the BT IP is literally the only reason they're here. The game genre is irrelevant to them so long as it has the BT label on it.

That's fine for forumites...but they only represent a tiny percentage of total players.

[LordNothing]

pgi could make a ton of money repackaging old mechs for new players. i like the idea of selling a new player a drop deck full of mechs used by a particular faction with that factions camo, and modules. to make it work, each mech would be exempt from the 3 mech rule. so if you are a new player and want to play fp, you can buy one and immediately have a good deck you can use in fp. and you can master them without buying 12 other mechs. then you sell 10 of them, one for each faction, and several for various lore mercs. you would also need unlimited drop decks to make it really shine.

Edited by LordNothing, 01 October 2016 - 11:35 PM.

[Mole]

FupDup, on 01 October 2016 - 05:36 PM, said:

Well, a lot of forumites claim that the BT IP is literally the only reason they're here. The game genre is irrelevant to them so long as it has the BT label on it.

Whether this effect is shown with the release of that other game or not, I dunno.

I'm gonna be frank, I'm only here for the battletech label. But you know what? I don't want a turn based strategy game. I want to be in the cockpit. So the new BT game will not be tearing me away from MWO. My wallet will remain closed until we get some more light 'mechs though.

[martian]

Dee Eight, on 01 October 2016 - 03:28 PM, said:

... means that down the road in the next year probably, we are going to get a Wave 2 & 3 heroes and sale, as well as for Resistance 1 & 2, Urbies and Origins IICs ?

This also explains why they chose the mechs they did for the recent champions build/vote, since they need champions to go with hero's to make more mastery bundles. That means future champion builds will likely be followed by heroes for the chassis which currently have neither (like Black Knights, Maulers, Wolf Hounds, etc). There's now champions for all the Resistance 1 mechs & Origins IIC mechs. Clans need champions for only the kit fox, ice ferret, nova, hellbringer, summoner, gargoyle, kodiak and executioner (not counting the as yet unreleased huntsman, linebacker and MAD-IIC). IS needs champions for the three I mentioned above as well as the Unseen five and the urbie.

Is that something to look forward to or just more things to complain about ? Discuss...

Yes, there are going to be some new Hero 'Mechs (new paintjobs of existing 'Mechs, essentially) ... And what are you going to do with those?

You are going to play exactly those same Deathmatches on those same maps as you have done a thousand times before.

[C E Dwyer]

Yes I thought about it, then shrugged..

[Dracol]

martian, on 02 October 2016 - 07:47 AM, said:

You are going to play exactly those same Deathmatches on those same maps as you have done a thousand times before.

Just like soccer players play the same rule set on the same sized field every time they play.....

[C E Dwyer]

Then I realised that for personal reasons I really should buy the ultra violet.

It also means there will be a hero Arctic Cheetah, and a Mist Lynx.

Hmm I wonder which one will sell the most