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[InnerSphereNews]

Viper for MC and Phoenix Hawk for C-bills

October 4th 10 AM PDT

Phoenix Hawk for C-Bills

PXH-1 3,841,553 C-Bills

PXH-1b 7,895,553 C-Bills

PXH-1K 3,413,077 C-Bills

PXH-2 4,224,561 C-Bills

PXH-3S 7,154,013 C-Bills

Viper for MC

VPR-Prime 3820 MC

VPR-A 4020 MC

VPR-B 3845 MC

VPR-C 3900 MC

VPR-D 3865 MC

VPR-M 3750 MC

[D V Devnull]

Grr... Just after I bought a Clan Assault and tanked my because of configuring!!!

Oh well, glad to see that I'll be battling a greater variety of 'Mechs now.

~D. V. "Aaarrrrrrrrrrrrggghhh!!! My wallet can't take it right now!!!" Devnull

[shameless]

will they get a quirk pass to make them abit less envious of the vindicator and blackjack?

[Luscious Dan]

The Pixie isn't going anywhere, you can buy one another time.

I don't know if we'll see an influx of PHX and VPR on the field, neither ever reached critical mass like some of the recent meta sweethearts did.

[Crotch RockIt]

I'll be buying a few Phoenix Hawks for stock mech matches.

[Requiemking]

Mmmmmm. Pixiehawks hitting the battlefield, huh? Oh well. I still have my 1K kicking around somewhere in my hanger.

[D V Devnull]

Luscious Dan, on 03 October 2016 - 01:02 PM, said:

The Pixie isn't going anywhere, you can buy one another time.

I know... I'll probably wait for a sale on the Phoenix Hawk anyway.

Luscious Dan, on 03 October 2016 - 01:02 PM, said:

I don't know if we'll see an influx of PHX and VPR on the field, neither ever reached critical mass like some of the recent meta sweethearts did.

I can tell you why it didn't, having had a chance to poke in the in-game Store and prototype some ideas. Limitations in loadouts kept it from being a real competitor against Mechs like the ShadowCat. Yes, I know about the whole "Clan Mechs are supposed to be superior" thing, but I could swear I.S.-based equipment wasn't supposed to be so constraining on design options either?


~D. V. "Oh well, maybe there's an I.S.-made Mech that I'm still waiting on the arrival of?" Devnull

[K19]

no thank :PPPP

[Negorbat]

more! more! more donato, we do not need new maps, weapons, PvE, only Donat

[D V Devnull]

K19, on 03 October 2016 - 02:26 PM, said:

no thank :PPPP

Negorbat, on 03 October 2016 - 02:44 PM, said:

more! more! more donato, we do not need new maps, weapons, PvE, only Donat

Sir(s) and/or madam(s)... Your post(s) needs more content. You're currently mentally confusing towards anyone that reads your post(s).

~D. V. "Wait... what... I don't get this..." Devnull





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Edited by D V Devnull, 03 October 2016 - 02:47 PM.

[Arkhangel]

D V Devnull, on 03 October 2016 - 02:45 PM, said:

Sir(s) and/or madam(s)... Your post(s) needs more content. You're currently mentally confusing towards anyone that reads your post(s).

~D. V. "Wait... what... I don't get this..." Devnull




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Funny coming from you, given your posts on the Bushwacker's forum.

Edited by Arkhangel, 03 October 2016 - 03:55 PM.

[Jay Leon Hart]

Finally! The first 'mech I've been excited for the C-Bill release for

Now, which 3 to buy...

[Carceroth]

For everyone thinking about buying the Viper. DO IT! it takes some getting used to but it is truly deadly when you get used to how fast and twitchy it is. It also has surprising durability and a really great profile for a lighter medium. Give it a shot. I find that people tend to ignore or underestimate it but i've taken out my fair share of assaults and heavys with this thing it just SAILS across the battlefield and the jump jets are the best in the game

Edited by Carceroth, 03 October 2016 - 05:12 PM.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Carceroth, on 03 October 2016 - 05:04 PM, said:

For everyone thinking about buying the Viper. DO IT! it takes some getting used to but it is truly deadly when you get used to how fast and twitchy it is. It also has surprising durability and a really great profile for a lighter medium. Give it a shot. I find that people tend to ignore or underestimate it but i've taken out my fair share of assaults and heavys with this thing it just SAILS across the battlefield and the jump jets are the best in the game

yessssss

[-Ramrod-]

Would be nice to get additional armor quirks for the Phoenix Hawk's arms. Like every other IS medium mech with arm-centric weapons have uber buff armor and structure quirks. And could the Viper get arm structure quirks like the community has been asking for for 2 months now? Wish PGI would stop listening to a select group of people and listen to the community as a whole.

[Navid A1]

Viper needs serious durability quirks.
It also needs per-pod quirks instead of full set.

Carceroth, on 03 October 2016 - 05:04 PM, said:

For everyone thinking about buying the Viper. DO IT! it takes some getting used to but it is truly deadly when you get used to how fast and twitchy it is. It also has surprising durability and a really great profile for a lighter medium. Give it a shot. I find that people tend to ignore or underestimate it but i've taken out my fair share of assaults and heavys with this thing it just SAILS across the battlefield and the jump jets are the best in the game

Nice Viper ad there... But how many matches do you have in the Viper?

This is my stats and I still think it needs a serious buff in terms of durability

Edited by Navid A1, 03 October 2016 - 08:51 PM.

[Pariah Devalis]

Waiting until C-Bills to maybe... maybe get the Viper.



Maybe.


For C-Bills only, though.

[Aramuside]

Carceroth, on 03 October 2016 - 05:04 PM, said:

For everyone thinking about buying the Viper. DO IT! it takes some getting used to but it is truly deadly when you get used to how fast and twitchy it is. It also has surprising durability and a really great profile for a lighter medium. Give it a shot. I find that people tend to ignore or underestimate it but i've taken out my fair share of assaults and heavys with this thing it just SAILS across the battlefield and the jump jets are the best in the game

Yeah its particularly great when you sail waaaay out of the boundary.

Its a fun mech and amazingly agile/maneuverable in base pods but as a reminder the Viper is the poster child for the set of 8 bonuses and you lose a lot of agility changing things. Interestingly different experiences though as I found them ok firepower but no longevity as they couldn't carry enough heat sinks to sustain fire forcing you to play to the mechs strengths and hit and run. They were paper targets though and really could do with just some minor structure improvements. More than minor these become the old spiders....

[Navid A1]

Aramuside, on 03 October 2016 - 11:16 PM, said:

Yeah its particularly great when you sail waaaay out of the boundary.

Its a fun mech and amazingly agile/maneuverable in base pods but as a reminder the Viper is the poster child for the set of 8 bonuses and you lose a lot of agility changing things. Interestingly different experiences though as I found them ok firepower but no longevity as they couldn't carry enough heat sinks to sustain fire forcing you to play to the mechs strengths and hit and run. They were paper targets though and really could do with just some minor structure improvements. More than minor these become the old spiders....

In the mean time... the F*CKING kodiak-3 received structure bonuses and agility on release...

that is beyond messed up!

[Aramuside]

Ramrod AI, on 03 October 2016 - 06:18 PM, said:

Would be nice to get additional armor quirks for the Phoenix Hawk's arms. Like every other IS medium mech with arm-centric weapons have uber buff armor and structure quirks. And could the Viper get arm structure quirks like the community has been asking for for 2 months now? Wish PGI would stop listening to a select group of people and listen to the community as a whole.

Interesting as I found the re-quirked PXH's became one of my favourite mediums as it moves like greased lightning in agility terms. Even just leveling it did nicely for me. Its definitely an agile knife fighter aka classic medium striker.

PHOENIX HAWK PXH-1: Kills per match 1.82, Death chance 47.06%, Damage Avge 440
PHOENIX HAWK PXH-1B: Kills per match 1.125, Death chance 41.67%, Damage Avge 421
PHOENIX HAWK PXH-1K: Kills per match 1.65, Death chance 56.52%, Damage Avge 384
PHOENIX HAWK PXH-2: Kills per match 1.3, Death chance 55.00%, Damage Avge 463
PHOENIX HAWK PXH-3S: Kills per match 1.37, Death chance 63.33%, Damage Avge 363
KUROI KIRI: Kills per match 1.00, Death chance 39.29%, Damage Avge 293
ROC: Kills per match 1.18, Death chance 57.14%, Damage Avge 393

The KK was an awful fit in hindsight but I didn't want to waste the c-bills to refit it totally.

The interesting one is the 3S which was AC10/3ML fit from memory but in which I lost the clear majority of my battles - a lot of them we were just roadkill ergo that astonishing 63.33% chance of death in every match... but it still managed 1.37 kills per match.

PS: Those are all solo queue matches while levelling mechs from 0xp to mastery.