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[BLOOD WOLF]

take it away

[Bombast]

I basically just come to this game when I don't have anything else to play and get a hankering for some big mechs with graphics that don't look like low resolution boxes stacked on each other.

So yes, assuming Battletech is executed with any degree of competency (And why wouldn't it be), I wont have any reason to play this game. But that's not saying much, as the reasons I have to play it now are pretty flimsy.

Edited by Bombast, 16 October 2016 - 04:52 AM.

[Summon3r]

havent patched MWO in almost a year wont be patching it before Battletech and certainly wont be patching after its launch.

less of course the hand of god reaches out and turns this into what we were promised back in beta.

[TLBFestus]

For all intents and purposes I've moved on a long time ago as I do not support them financially.

So, yes, I will play MWO the odd occasion like I do now, but my money will continue to go elsewhere, and one destination is in the pockets of HBS.

Since this game has such a cr@ppy new player experience and steep learning curve it survives as a niche game with glacially slow growth (if any).

Once HBS game comes out you can expect a not insignificant drop in players for MWO. The biggest question will be not yours, but;


"WHEN BATTLETECH COMES OUT NEXT YEAR HOW MANY WILL FINANCIALLY SUPPORT BOTH THOSE GAMES OR CHOOSE ONE OR THE OTHER?"


If many continue to dabble in MWO and stop giving them money that's where the game will die. Not because of numbers, but because of cash flow drying up.

Edited by TLBFestus, 15 October 2016 - 10:46 PM.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

I might buy Battletech at some point, will be nice to have another BT game where I can command groups of mechs. Last one that had anything like that was mechcommander. I haven't heard anything about customization of loadouts in the Battletech game, so I'm not expecting any, which would be a downside to me, but still an interesting and fun game.

That said I'd still play MWO. They are both entirely different game genres and I find first person combat enjoyable. On days where I don't feel my reflexes are up to it, or I get tired of MWO Battletech would be a great option.

As for financial support, I'm tight on funds and MWO has been rather unstable in their choices of direction, so my pockets are closed. I didn't hear about any payments on Battletech other than buying the game itself though, but I'll probably pick it up when its gone on sale and after its been out long enough for people to find bugs that are released with it and for those to be fixed up. I dislike buying games right after they come out because its riskier.

[Malagant]

I'm not convinced this game will even be here 1 year from now the way the player base is bleeding out now. So, as much as I'd like to play both, will it even be worth playing if you can't get decent matches?

[jonfett]

I'm not giving PGI anymore of my money for this minimally viable product. They don't deserve it.

I don't have a lot of time in the day for playing games (work/family/life/etc...), and I've backed the HBS battletech game. So, once that's out, I'm outta here...

[S 0 L E N Y A]

Why not both?

[kuma8877]

I'll be playing both. I only have to buy BT once, and it's not like I have to keep throwing money at them after my initial purchase. So if MWO has anything worth buying at the time of release of BT I would still buy it also and support both games.

I also think it's kinda weird that everyone thinks money and art assets are the only things changing hands between PGI and HBS (C'mon you have access to Jordan and you're doing BT/MW anything?). I'm sure there has been more collaboration than that given the big push for everything BT this year. Especially since Catalyst games has now admitted to giving active thought to re-releasing the original Technical manuals featuring the new designs from PGI. (this was in the latest BT Vlog on You-tube or Hyper-RPG on Twitch). There seems to be more going on behind the scenes than most seem to realize and a clear push to unify the IP's look.

[Spheroid]

Isn't this competing Battletech game primarily a single player experience with a limited multiplier component? You will exhaust the experience and come back here eventually or move on to other things. It is incorrect to think they will be in direct competition in perpetuity,

Really you should compare this new game with Shadowrun or X-COM 2. Those had population peaks and are now in decline. FPS games have slow long running burns.

Edited by Spheroid, 15 October 2016 - 11:46 PM.

[Random Carnage]

I backed BT. I spend far more time on the MWO forums than in the game these days, and really doubt that I'll miss it when I finally walk away.

[Dogstar]

Wow far too many bitter people in here - if you don't play the game then go do something else rather than complaining on the forum about how you don't play the game - no one is going to listen to the opinion of someone who doesn't play.

I'll play both, assuming that the new game is any good of course

[martian]

BLOOD WOLF, on 15 October 2016 - 09:31 PM, said:

When Battletech Comes Out Next Year How Many Will Play Both Those Games Or Choose One Or The Other?

I guess I will play both, but I expect HBS BattleTech to become my primary game, while MWO will probably be sidelined. MWO offers nothing but repetetive deathmatch, while HBS is going to offer much more:

• Combined Arms - tanks, hovertanks, helicopters maybe, etc. - all those things missing in MWO
  
• Expanded Mission Objectives - Attack, Defend, Capture, Escort, etc. - the majority of MWO games is "Kill the entire enemy team" with occassional variation "Kill the entire enemy team and then stand in the square"
  
• Managing the finances and logistics of my mercenary outfit - from the modifications and loadout of my 'Mechs, to the salaries and skill growth of my MechWarriors - the only thing I am managing in MWO is "Do I have enough C-Bills to buy DHS and ES upgrades?"
  
• Open-Ended Campaign with Procedurally-generated Contracts included
  
• Battlefield Salvage - missing in MWO
  
• Character Origin - the only "character" I see in MWO is headless body in 'Mech cockpit
  
• George "Duncan Fisher" Ledoux - "Whoa! That kid was on fire down there. Of course, now he's literally on fire."
  
• Duane Loose - painter who illustrated first BattleTech 'Mech and vehicle TROs and practically defined the visual aspect of the game. Now he is cooperating on HBS BattleTech.
  
• Argo Dropship - finally a home base that is more than a few Mechlab screens
  
• Hiring 'Mech Aces such as Grayson Carlyle, Natasha Kerensky or Morgan Kell
  
• Solaris 7 with Tournaments, Leagues and Leaderboards, or just with casual PvP games
  
• Meeting and Fighting Various Elite House and Mercenary Units such as Sword of Light, Eridani Light Horse or Black Widow Company
  
• Physical Attacks - Jordan Weisman's favorite 'Mech is the Hatchetman and he said that "You can't have a proper BattleTech game without physical attacks."

Edited by martian, 16 October 2016 - 07:36 AM.

[BD RAIDR]

What martian said.

Edited by BD RAIDR, 16 October 2016 - 01:22 AM.

[Helene de Montfort]

I will sure play a lot less mwo, and stop injecting money in it...

I already backed HBS Battletech, can't wait to get my copy, and stream it on twitch...

Edited by Helene de Montfort, 16 October 2016 - 01:28 AM.

[invernomuto]

TLBFestus, on 15 October 2016 - 10:45 PM, said:

"WHEN BATTLETECH COMES OUT NEXT YEAR HOW MANY WILL FINANCIALLY SUPPORT BOTH THOSE GAMES OR CHOOSE ONE OR THE OTHER?"

PGI's MWO is an online free to play FPS game, so it makes sense that you have monthly "mech packs" or similar, while HBS's Battletech will be a turn based game with an upfront cost. I really hope that there won't be many DLCs for it, maybe expansions if the game sold well. Being an asyncronous turn based game, I think that BT will be mainly focused on single player, with the ability to have multiplayer matches. Usually turn based missions tend to be not so good for multiplayer (the more the mission is complex, the more time you have to wait for your opponent doing his moves, while you stare at the screen doing nothing), but let's see when the game will come out.

Edited by invernomuto, 16 October 2016 - 01:31 AM.

[Hunka Junk]

Well, let's see:

1. January will determine if Mr Wallet is ever going to open for Mr MWO again. IF FP Redux blows, then I'm not gonna wait for it to be fixed. Same goes if it isn't released in January. Not gonna wait. If Mr Wallet closes, then my time playing MWO will not abrupty end but slowly dwindle into nothingness.

2. If we get a decent FP Redux, I might play both.

3. As my dissatisfaction with the devs continues to grow, there will probably be 5-7 new reasons for me not to want to support this game by May.

4. Since my roots are not in BT but rather Front Mission, I'd just as soon have a turn-based game with melee, more weapons, way more builds, and no twitch whatsoever.

5. If I quit MWO, I hope the loyal continue to play so that they finance my future mech models.

[Mordynak]

Summon3r, on 15 October 2016 - 09:45 PM, said:

havent patched MWO in almost a year wont be patching it before Battletech and certainly wont be patching after its launch. less of course the hand of god reaches out and turns this into what we were promised back in beta.

Then GTFO the forums.

[Cabusha]

I'll continue to play both, simply because they're two different experiences and types of gameplay. Battletech will be for slower paced, lore filled, classic Battletech. MWO will continue to be the only game besides EVE that can draw all of us in. Playing with my friends in big groups is the only reason I still play (even though we suck).

If this offered any kind of PvE experience, say like UT's onslaught, your probably never see me in PvP ever again.

Caveat:. I'm done financially supporting PGI. They've failed to meaningfully complete this game after 4 years of development. I'd rather support projects that'll actually be completed, like Battletech.

Edited by Cabusha, 16 October 2016 - 01:55 AM.

[xVLFBERHxT]

Mordynak, on 16 October 2016 - 01:49 AM, said:

Then GTFO the forums.

lol