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Talos7, on 02 November 2016 - 08:55 PM, said:
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Purchasing Hero omnipods would make the whole point of buying Hero 'mechs moot.
Generally speaking most are just slightly different with a RT or LA that can support an additional or different weapons system or a configuration that isn't available on the regular chassis. Yes some, like the Grid Iron, have (had?) great quirks. But its usually just the configuration of weapons on one or two sections of the 'mech.
If they were to just sell the component what would be the reason to buy most of the Hero 'mechs? other than to just say you owned it, of course.
I like the idea. It would save me a ton to be able to spend C-Bills on an extra 'mech that I could "upgrade" to a hero with a few hundred MC. But, I don't see it working from PGIs stance.
Purchasing Hero omnipods would make the whole point of buying Hero 'mechs moot.
Generally speaking most are just slightly different with a RT or LA that can support an additional or different weapons system or a configuration that isn't available on the regular chassis. Yes some, like the Grid Iron, have (had?) great quirks. But its usually just the configuration of weapons on one or two sections of the 'mech.
If they were to just sell the component what would be the reason to buy most of the Hero 'mechs? other than to just say you owned it, of course.
I like the idea. It would save me a ton to be able to spend C-Bills on an extra 'mech that I could "upgrade" to a hero with a few hundred MC. But, I don't see it working from PGIs stance.
I would beg to differ on the point of buying Hero Mechs, as I don't see it being moot. There's an OmniPod, the Center Torso, that can only be gained by purchasing a Hero Mech, as those CT OmniPods can NEVER be swapped. Plus, many of those CT OmniPods usually have some form of useful Quirks/HardPoints on them.
If someone went and sold a Hero OmniPod, they would only get back
for it anyway, instead of 
like when they first purchased them. PGI would still have a working model from their standpoint, as purchasing/selling values still work in favor of their business models. The ratio which I suggested avoids excessively prohibitive pricing, but doesn't work against PGI's numbers, such as the ratios for things like Consumables. Pilots would still have to think twice before purchasing, as there would be no way to undo the changes, just as if a whole Hero Mech were purchased. 
Willothius, on 03 November 2016 - 01:21 AM, said:
Hero prices are based on tonnage, so selling individual pods on an MC per CBill ratio is not a fair concept.
But I guess more importantly, there's the exclusivity of the hero, which is much less prominent for the omni hero mechs..
We kind of saw this coming with the announcement of omni heros, and is exactly the reason why I find them kinda silly.
But I guess more importantly, there's the exclusivity of the hero, which is much less prominent for the omni hero mechs..
We kind of saw this coming with the announcement of omni heros, and is exactly the reason why I find them kinda silly.
There's actually a workable opening for PGI here. As one would go up through tonnage, so does the prices of the OmniPods increase. At higher tonnages, the OmniPods therefore become more and more costly. However, if you've noticed, the prices of the OmniPods are always a minor fraction of the Mech's original purchase price. Such is why I came across the thought of the 10
to 50K ratio. It doesn't go too high, specifically covers the OmniPod itself (which doesn't include original equipment during MechLab editing), but doesn't overcharge into a price point where PGI would lose out from most Pilots being unwilling to spend for their desired builds. 
Using
as a requirement to purchase Hero OmniPods doesn't affect the Hero Mech's exclusivity. Things like Quirks/HardPoints and the 'Set of 8' from the CT would still require purchase of the Hero Mech as a whole. Heck, you can't say your OmniMech is a "Medusa" or "Jade Kite" or "Pakhet" without it actually being the Hero's CT anyway, as that's how Mech variants get read by Sensors when you're deployed. 
Aramuside, on 03 November 2016 - 04:57 AM, said:
Yeah its why I hate all the Huntsman builds people suggest including the P and PA pods as you won't get more P till C-bill versions appear and never more PA. I have to say I still think if you have the hero you should be able to get hero omnipods as you've already paid the "entry fee" imo.
This here holds far too true. If someone does have the Hero OmniMech, there is no point in blocking their access to purchasing the Hero OmniPod. Accidental sales from Pilot Inventory occur, and it should either be possible to recover by repurchasing with
and/or , or sale of the Hero OmniPod should NEVER be possible in the first place. Heck, if PGI feels that they have to use owning a Hero OmniMech as a limiter to purchasing OmniPods, then so be it. But creating a hidden, needless pitfall in regard to the Hero OmniPods? That's simply bad for business, no two ways about it. 
~Mr. D. V. "Hopefully this answers lots of questions, showing points to ideas, all in a useful way?" Devnull
[Edit by author for a missed thought.]
Edited by D V Devnull, 03 November 2016 - 03:43 PM.
