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[Mark Nicholson]

Alienized, on 02 November 2016 - 02:31 PM, said:

ok so a clear question here: when will the victor get its missile pods fixed so it can actually shoot the amount of srm's it has installed at the same time and not with a delay.

I didn't get here till long after the Victor came out, but we've since got far more consistent rules for missile box expectations, and it clearly doesn't hold up to them. There's several other mechs with similar but less obvious issues.

So, to clearly answer you: no idea when, but I'm very interested in fixing it.

[Felicitatem Parco]

... can we get stronger jump jets, coupled with a JJ Reticle Shake decay that lasts for 0.25 - 0.5 second ds after the JJ thrust is released....

[Domoneky]

Rebas Kradd, on 02 November 2016 - 10:00 AM, said:

What message, exactly?

"We want you to make the game better! And I'm going to withhold from you the money that you need to do it!"

That message?

THAT'S THE SPIRIT!

[Khalcruth]

Rebas Kradd, on 02 November 2016 - 10:00 AM, said:

What message, exactly?

"We want you to make the game better! And I'm going to withhold from you the money that you need to do it!"

That message?

No, the message

"I already gave you money to make the game better, like you asked for. But you did not use that money to get finished the things you said you wanted the money for. I'm going to withhold from you more money to do more stuff until you get done the first set of stuff i gave you money for. Which you should have already finished, because I already gave you the money for it."

That message.

[kuma8877]

WarHippy, on 02 November 2016 - 01:51 PM, said:

You can be passionate about a project without being a slave to it. Advocating for essentially slave labor in order to get anything done because someone somewhere did a neat side project once is absurd. You want people to create content on their off time in an attempt to get things accomplished. Thinking about something on your off time and making a proposal for the idea is one thing(and employment isn't needed to come up with ideas), but to advocate for people to create working features etc. for free that may or may not even be used is delusional.

I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that I'm advocating for anyone to work for free... I'm pointing out, that often workers who are passionate about what they are working on, will take it upon themselves to do things the normal production schedule might not allow for, or that they've been told can't be done due to time constraints or whatever.

Really, at the end of the day, I'm saying, you can't just lump everyone together under the generic banner of "PGI" so you can bludgeon them with the sins of the past when some of the crew actually try to come here and talk with us. That's delusional if you want to have ANY dialogue with the dev team, especially newer members who ABSOLUTELY have no responsibility for the direction of the company as a whole and what was done well before they got there.

And hey, there's the off chance that you can just take Mark at his word, that he's doing the best he can where he is with the opportunities he's presented with at PGI, because he actually wants MWO to be better than it is today.

Edited by kuma8877, 02 November 2016 - 03:33 PM.

[Alex Morgaine]

Khalcruth, on 02 November 2016 - 03:10 PM, said:

No, the message

"I already gave you money to make the game better, like you asked for. But you did not use that money to get finished the things you said you wanted the money for. I'm going to withhold from you more money to do more stuff until you get done the first set of stuff i gave you money for. Which you should have already finished, because I already gave you the money for it."

That message.

I think a fair sized number of vets, Newbies, salty, jade, dark and shining knights at this point would easily agree: mechcon will literally make or break this game's future if nothing of worth beyond a new gunbag is shown. PGI needs a really good reason for going mum the last few months ( announcing to hold on ED for now is the only good thing they've done atm, though i hope they go back to it to make a system that does work without penalizing stock builds), any reason for most of us really, for the lack of info on.... Well, just about anything lately. Holding stuff for mechcon might hurt more in the long run then just generalized announcements with details at the convention imo, but if they have something big...
I honestly want to see them pull something amazing out, something if not complete at least in working order with mostly of the bugs hammered out and ready for patch injection in short term, pending obvious issues. Something... tangible to show the game will surviveand improve, and... Hopefully not just a Mech pack and hope.
Hope's running out, and doesn't refill easily.

[Aleksandr Sergeyevich Kerensky]

Someday... Somewhere... Someone will betray your trust...

It may not be today, it may not be tomarrow... It may not be PGI, or EA, or ubisoft... Heck it may not even be a game company...

But someone will definitely betray your trust... And in that moment, when that person plunges you unto the depths of the salt mines...

You will know how we feel!

[BLOOD WOLF]

Mark Nicholson, on 02 November 2016 - 02:15 PM, said:

Davers,

I'm sorry that was misunderstood, I'm open to contributing via private messages, and public ones.
I try to join in on Tina's Dev drops as much as I can, and you're welcome to ask me questions there too.
I'd even stream more if I was able (sadly just the one so far).
I try to respond to threads where I actually have something to contribute. This ends up being mostly art and mech stuff.

did a dev just contribute to a thread? like casually talking with people? holy smacks what did i miss? try not to scare him off.

I gotta catch more of tina's streams myself.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 02 November 2016 - 05:36 PM.

[Davers]

BLOOD WOLF, on 02 November 2016 - 05:34 PM, said:

did a dev just contribute to a thread? like casually talking with people? holy smacks what did i miss? try not to scare him off.

I gotta catch more of tina's streams myself.

He came, gave the standard company line (" Well, there's a lot of things we'd like to do, but..."), and vanished. The whole thing was as mysterious as a Loch Ness monster sighting.

Welcome back.

[Daemon04]

Piney, on 01 November 2016 - 04:09 PM, said:

I play this game and have fun.

As of now, it's the only MW game in town........yet we post here to wish its death.

The bitter vets who no longer play still post here trashing this game..............Why?

An adolescent rejection complex that hasn't been outgrown? .

Get over it, boys and girls! Grow up!


SO many posts here wishing the end of MWO.

If you're not playing anymore, do us all a favor and STFU! Just......frikkin........go....away.

Leave the worries about how the game is progressing to to those who actually play the game.

Go pi$$ on someone else's parade in another game that doesn't fit your version of perfection.

Welcome to the realm of the vets - who give us insight on what has happened in the past and what might be awaiting us in the future. i have the utmost respect for thos epeople because they made this game possible and i totally understand their pov. back in the day pgi had the people back em up and make promises to them they unfortunately didnt keep. truely every salting has its reason and if there are profund arguments that will have truth behind it.

ive joined later than ive wished to have discovered this game because i am a big fan of battletech and if there is somethhing missing in gaming its stompy robots. since my awakening ive seen some good mechlab changes, some quirkenings, some unwanted and never being adressed and messed up moves such as the mini map and the remkes of some maps that supports the veterans pov imo. ive also spend some money on it and i am starting to have my doubts about th future of this game seeing the waiting times in quickplay, seeing no activity in faction play at all - when i started ive had an insane amount of factionplay matches to play but right now even with some proper messaging people dont show up and i am kinda tired of walking up against kodiaks in factionplay which adresses the next issue - the balancing which has never gotten to the point where everyone said thats just perfect. right now i have the feeling clan mechs are op especially kodiak 3s and night gyrs with those dual gauss dual ppc meta-f###otness. also getting tiresd to see ppcs flying at me from all directions. kdk3- matter even without structure and armor quirks that variant is deadly to look at and then there is more to come bc you get amechpack, you get a mechpakc and you get a mechpack, everyone gets a mechpack. oprah would be so proud.

we have something in the jurisdiction we call historic interpretation that tells us what the original thinking of that matter was and what was intended to do and our veterans are the ones reminding us to keep in our minds that some mistakes have been made and thatnwe should not jump on the hope train as they did and let our hopes get crushed as theirs did.
i am definitely wishing that this game will undergo the changes necessary to make it playable again for i am not wishing its end but i wil always keep in mind that there everything has an end but sucuk has two.

[Mark Nicholson]

Davers, on 02 November 2016 - 06:54 PM, said:

He came, gave the standard company line (" Well, there's a lot of things we'd like to do, but..."), and vanished. The whole thing was as mysterious as a Loch Ness monster sighting.

I VANISHED!? Invisibility powers go!

I gave a non-committal answer because the other option is to promise something that might not happen....and this thread is a perfect example of where that gets us.

Is it currently scheduled, no.
Has it been nagging me in the back of my mind for 2 months now, yes (just like the secondary missile boxes on the timberwolf).
Did I open the Victor files today to take a look at how I could fix it, and if there were any technical challenges with it? I did, it doesn't look like there, yet.
Am I going to talk to people about it, to see how we can do this sometime soon, yes.
But it's still possible that nothing will happen (except that it will keep bothering both you and me).

[BLOOD WOLF]

Mark Nicholson, on 02 November 2016 - 07:53 PM, said:

I VANISHED!? Invisibility powers go!

I gave a non-committal answer because the other option is to promise something that might not happen....and this thread is a perfect example of where that gets us.

Is it currently scheduled, no.
Has it been nagging me in the back of my mind for 2 months now, yes (just like the secondary missile boxes on the timberwolf).
Did I open the Victor files today to take a look at how I could fix it, and if there were any technical challenges with it? I did, it doesn't look like there, yet.
Am I going to talk to people about it, to see how we can do this sometime soon, yes.
But it's still possible that nothing will happen (except that it will keep bothering both you and me).

that is not the answer the forums are looking for(move along). At least we know its being considered. There are probably a million and 2 things that need to be done.

replies are always nice and welcomed.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 02 November 2016 - 08:14 PM.

[Davers]

Mark Nicholson, on 02 November 2016 - 07:53 PM, said:

I VANISHED!? Invisibility powers go!

I gave a non-committal answer because the other option is to promise something that might not happen....and this thread is a perfect example of where that gets us.

Is it currently scheduled, no.
Has it been nagging me in the back of my mind for 2 months now, yes (just like the secondary missile boxes on the timberwolf).
Did I open the Victor files today to take a look at how I could fix it, and if there were any technical challenges with it? I did, it doesn't look like there, yet.
Am I going to talk to people about it, to see how we can do this sometime soon, yes.
But it's still possible that nothing will happen (except that it will keep bothering both you and me).

[Valdarion Silarius]

Mark Nicholson, on 02 November 2016 - 07:53 PM, said:

I VANISHED!? Invisibility powers go!

I gave a non-committal answer because the other option is to promise something that might not happen....and this thread is a perfect example of where that gets us.

Is it currently scheduled, no.
Has it been nagging me in the back of my mind for 2 months now, yes (just like the secondary missile boxes on the timberwolf).
Did I open the Victor files today to take a look at how I could fix it, and if there were any technical challenges with it? I did, it doesn't look like there, yet.
Am I going to talk to people about it, to see how we can do this sometime soon, yes.
But it's still possible that nothing will happen (except that it will keep bothering both you and me).

Mark plz give us our Rifleman IIC and our Mad Cat MK.2 kthxbye.

[Requiemking]

Mark Nicholson, on 02 November 2016 - 02:15 PM, said:

Davers,

I'm sorry that was misunderstood, I'm open to contributing via private messages, and public ones.
I try to join in on Tina's Dev drops as much as I can, and you're welcome to ask me questions there too.
I'd even stream more if I was able (sadly just the one so far).
I try to respond to threads where I actually have something to contribute. This ends up being mostly art and mech stuff.

Here is another question for you. When will jump jets get buffed so that Class 1 and 2 JJs will actually be worth using?

EDIT: Also, when are you guys gonna throw some buffs out for the Light mechs? They have been nerfed to hell and back, leaving most of them stranded in the trash bin.

Edited by Requiemking, 02 November 2016 - 09:16 PM.

[Juodas Varnas]

Requiemking, on 02 November 2016 - 09:15 PM, said:

Here is another question for you. When will jump jets get buffed so that Class 1 and 2 JJs will actually be worth using?

EDIT: Also, when are you guys gonna throw some buffs out for the Light mechs? They have been nerfed to hell and back, leaving most of them stranded in the trash bin.

Can Mark even answer a question like this?
I mean he's one of the 3D modelers, not Paul the Nerfinator.
Only Paul knows Paul.

[DiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley]

Arnold The Governator, on 02 November 2016 - 09:13 PM, said:

Mark plz give us our Rifleman IIC and our Mad Cat MK.2 kthxbye.

I second this! (They need to come at the same time though) because I'm selfish and will shamelessly plug the Mad Cat MK II every chance I get

[Prc]

fix victor, more content, nerf kdk

[DiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley]

Prc, on 02 November 2016 - 11:33 PM, said:

fix victor, more content, nerf kdk

Never have I tried to be popular yes I know that wasn't directed at me I think the Kodiak is fine. People just need to get good and realize it's the pilots using them and not the mech.

[Juodas Varnas]

DiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley, on 02 November 2016 - 11:42 PM, said:

People just need to get good and realize it's the pilots using them and not the mech.

Suuuuuure dude.
It's ALL skill.