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[DAYLEET]

Tristan Winter, on 07 November 2016 - 02:25 PM, said:

This would be a terrible idea, because match score doesn't reflect how good players are. Consider how easy it is to get a 400+ match score in an AWS-8R versus a Victor, for example. A guy trying to master Vindicators would end up in Tier 5 within a week. Furthermore, match scores are heavily biased towards heavier mechs. All the Tier 1 players would be assault jocks. And matchmaker would struggle to find enough Tier 1 light mech players for them anyway.

Agreed.

Tristan Winter, on 07 November 2016 - 02:25 PM, said:

WLR is the most consistent metric of how good a player is.

no. Only in a 1 on 1 scenario, or static competitive Group play(same players all the time), is win really important.


My own stats says that the weight class i play might be the defining factor of how well i do. If i was to always do great in light (ahah!) and badly in Assault, then the match maker should take that into account. Grinding the basics takes 7-9 match, eliting takes another 15 match and unless you're a completely new player, 25-30 match do not affect stats in a meaningful way and if you ARE completely new it makes no difference since youre down in t5 anyways.

Edited by DAYLEET, 08 November 2016 - 07:00 PM.

[DAYLEET]

My own solution would be to add more tier, harder xp gain. But whats the point, we already mix everyone with only 5 tier for lack of enough players.

[adamts01]

No

There are many important jobs that suck to do at times, don't reward points or $, but win the match (Being the tip of the spear, not getting in to a good firing position because you have to protect friendlies against LRMs, Chasing off lights, suiciding to stop a cap, chasing points on Conquest......). The list goes on. Scores aren't representative of how much a player contributed, and never will be, all that matters is W/L. Good players will win more than bad players.

[Duke Nedo]

Mawai, on 08 November 2016 - 11:26 AM, said:

It is not supposed to work that way (tier 3 used as seed allowing grouping of all tiers). They have stated that tier 1 should never end up grouped with anyone below tier 3 for example. So the seed should not matter for that constraint to hold.

The only thing I remember was that they said that the tier bracket used in matchmaking will never exceed +/-2 Tier levels. So, +/-2 of what? I have assumed that the matchmaker spawns its process on one player, take his tier and tries to fill it with the same tier opponents, then expand to +/-1 and finally to +/-2 after 2 minutes or so.

If you would never ever be in a game outside +/-2 for every player in the match, then it in practice means +/-1 from the seeding player, unless the seeding player is Tier 1, in that case it's still tier 1-3 allowed, exactly as for a tier 2 seeded game.

Could be, but I've spectated team mates lately that I very much doubt could be Tier 3.

Edited by Duke Nedo, 09 November 2016 - 12:00 AM.