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#121 pacifica812

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Posted 09 November 2016 - 03:57 AM

Thanx for the event PGI, I definitely won't complain about gettin' free stuff :) Just want to say, I'm glad that FP is not a ghost town. I had my first 4 matches in an un-basiced Nova (got 5 out of 6 requirements) in about 40 mins. See you on the battlefield :)

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Posted 09 November 2016 - 05:22 AM

Some guy was saying last night that you can get kills/kmdds for your crab in invasion even if your *other* mechs actually did the work. This is absolutely FALSE.

You must get the kills/kmdd s with a nova or crab.

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Posted 09 November 2016 - 05:26 AM

View PostKuaron, on 08 November 2016 - 02:29 PM, said:

So the question for me is: Is this hooter worth buying a Crab? Last time I was looking at it I decided against it, already possessing a mastered Hunch-P. Same weight and also med lasers. Does the Crab add a new playstyle over this one? Edit: Oh, in case someone didn't notice: It's the Crab for IS! I find it appropriate. "Ember" could have been a nice pun, too, but the Crab is the closest IS equivalent to the Nova. And I really wouldn't want to be forced to play some underperforming Firestarter against Streakcrows in Scouting.


The SL is good. Nice profile, decent hardpoints for the profile and JJ.

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Posted 09 November 2016 - 05:29 AM

View Postchaothulhu, on 08 November 2016 - 09:54 PM, said:

but as a merc you have the opportunity to play both sides of the event and still get rewards with the trial crab


So 7 pages and only ONE guy complained, that loyalists can only get 1 Warhorn, while Mercs can get 2 Warhorns.
We had this many times in past events, put PGI is still not listening. Stop favouring the Mercs!

I'am a Merc right now, so I don't bother. But I can imagine how all the loyalists must feel when they see, that they can only get 1 Warhorn, while the Mercs can get 2.

But Maybe there are no loyalists out there anymore, because everyone switched to Merc-side, because PGI has favoured Mercs so many times, that people are sick of it.

I wonder why they antagonize the loyalists so many times, just admit that you don't like loyalists, and that you think they are not the same value as mercs.

Maybe you should call your game Merc-Warrior-Online, instead of Mech-Warrior-Online.


Ohh and just to make sure, it is unfair too, that IS has the crab as an trial Mech, but Clans don't have the Nova as an trial Mech.
PGI should really make up their minds and try to make fair/equal conditions for all sides, Mercs, loyalists, IS and Clans.

EDIT: forgot to make one loyalists bold.

Edited by tee5, 09 November 2016 - 05:31 AM.


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Posted 09 November 2016 - 05:37 AM

View PostNight Fury76, on 08 November 2016 - 03:54 PM, said:

A CW Event? lolololololololololololollol

Your Serious? lolololololololololol

Good luck to my Aussie timezone friends getting a CW match when quick play in our time zone is f#$%#$ng ghost town


You don't use the multi server options for QP?

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Posted 09 November 2016 - 05:43 AM

View PostKeith66AH, on 08 November 2016 - 07:24 PM, said:

The crab is in most degrees total garbage especially when compared to the Nova. I am willing to bet that any Nova would stop the crap out of any Crab variant and pilot included. There are far better 45 ton mechs for scouting then that and ones that are far superior in getting anywhere close to a KMDD.

Easy button VS Hard mode to be sure here. Unless your one of those lame *** guys who snipe the whole time in scout and don't support their teammates at all and hope to win in the slightest.

Garbage mech for a garbage event. This has to be the first time I am honestly upset about the choices here.

I love the theme with the Nova...member if you can get past the innuendo there but to pitch it against the crab is just.... stupid.


I really don't think you levelled up the Crabs as its a decent IS medium. It used to be a great one until they increased its size.

That or you were inept at piloting them but I prefer to think better of people. ;)

#127 Lily from animove

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Posted 09 November 2016 - 06:01 AM

View PostMovinTarget, on 09 November 2016 - 05:22 AM, said:

Some guy was saying last night that you can get kills/kmdds for your crab in invasion even if your *other* mechs actually did the work. This is absolutely FALSE.

You must get the kills/kmdd s with a nova or crab.


? that doesn't seems to be right towards the conditions on the event page

the event page says

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Get 6 Kills or KMDD (any combination) in a Nova
Get 6 Kills or KMDD (any combination) in a Crab


for the others, the site states

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This Event features a Faction Play Personal Challenge for the Nova or Crab chassis, along with two other Faction Play Personal Challenges which can be achieved in any 'Mech.



specific condition for one of these

So the non scouting ones SHOULD work in ANY mech.

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Play at least 4 Scout Matches in one day, each with a minimum Match Score of 40


So these should definately work without being done in a nova or crab. Maybe that person was just too impatient waiting for the refresh on the side which now is only every hour instead the old 15 mnutes.

@tee they don't antagonize mercs, but they simply don't conside rpeople do swithc sides for these events and so simply desing then in a simple way leaving these kind of "holes"

If I lerned anything about PGI than that they have a very very bad manegment when it comes to fully designing, may this be some events or balance. While they do have good ideas, they fail in the details EVERY time. thats because there is no one havng a global overview in the deisgn iver evertyhing. And so all these tiny gaps and wholes to "abuse" or circumvent their design implementsions do exist.

Quirks,
JJ changes
attemps of applying roles
Attemps of energy draw,
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all of them had some major holes that entirely broke the idea behind the deisgn. They lack the experiencr and/or docuemtation to know what their design choices impact in all areas of their game and can therefore not even find these holes to begin with, while some players instantly see these holes when they just post the patchnotes.

Edited by Lily from animove, 09 November 2016 - 06:10 AM.


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Posted 09 November 2016 - 06:55 AM

Scouting only sees novas and crabs until folks achieve their 6 nova or crab matches to get a horn. After that, they switch to something else if they have the option.

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Posted 09 November 2016 - 07:05 AM

View PostDee Eight, on 09 November 2016 - 06:55 AM, said:

Scouting only sees novas and crabs until folks achieve their 6 nova or crab matches to get a horn. After that, they switch to something else if they have the option.


Both are pretty decent for scoutmissions.

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Posted 09 November 2016 - 07:42 AM

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Posted 09 November 2016 - 08:15 AM

Unbalanced. I am loyalist steiner and I just play my 4 games in scouting "4 loses and 0 kills" im not the best pilot i know but this exceeds me why crabs...

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Posted 09 November 2016 - 08:20 AM

Can you at some point come up with events that have something to do with BattleTech? I mean... just the name would be a start. Mechtoberfest, Nova-Vember and all that... what does this try to be?
Funny or what?

If it is about FP, why not use this great universe and make something out of it instead of all this...
Oh, nevermind!

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Posted 09 November 2016 - 08:51 AM

View Postchofa, on 09 November 2016 - 08:15 AM, said:

Unbalanced. I am loyalist steiner and I just play my 4 games in scouting "4 loses and 0 kills" im not the best pilot i know but this exceeds me why crabs...


If I understand this correctly, there is NO need whatsoever, (emphasis on NO), to play the scouting missions with a Crab.

You only need to achieve 6 kills or 6 KMDD in a crab (for IS) in a scouting OR invasion mode Posted Image


Just saying...

Hope that makes it easier for you Posted Image

Edited by pacifica812, 09 November 2016 - 09:03 AM.


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Posted 09 November 2016 - 08:52 AM

MPLas Crabs can chop legs pretty well, actually, but there are three problems I've seen in scouting mode:

1. People refuse to leg. Your enemies will leg you, it is much harder to protect your legs when they are being focused on, yet people refuse to shoot for their legs. Absolutely refuse! They are all but literally handing the enemy team a win, because a team that intends to leg will beat the team that refuses to.

2. People scatter to the seven winds. Instead of sticking together, focusing fire, possibly using the in game VoiP to coordinate, people take their four mechs to 8 different grids and get picked off one by one.

3. People are fearful of committing to a brawl. They take long range weapons, LRMs, LPLas, PPCs... then try and stand off from the enemy mechs. All the wrong weapons for 4v4. There is no front line to hide behind. There is precious few bits of armor to share between the four of you. All four mechs are needed up front, knife fighting. If you are not taking SLas, ERSLas, SPLAs, IS MPLas, IS AC20, or non-streak SRMs, you are, simply put, doing it wrong. Flamers and MG are acceptable backups to those big hitters, but do not take streaks, and do not take long range weapon systems. A brawl will happen 99% of the time. Bring the right tools for it!

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 09 November 2016 - 09:02 AM.


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Posted 09 November 2016 - 08:53 AM

View Postchofa, on 09 November 2016 - 08:15 AM, said:

Unbalanced. I am loyalist steiner and I just play my 4 games in scouting "4 loses and 0 kills" im not the best pilot i know but this exceeds me why crabs...


in that case use something else, you will nto have the chance for the warhorn and hanging item, but the MC and cbills can be done without the crab.

or hope to get your KMDD's in invasion mode.

Edited by Lily from animove, 09 November 2016 - 08:54 AM.


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Posted 09 November 2016 - 09:01 AM

View PostPariah Devalis, on 09 November 2016 - 08:52 AM, said:

MPLas Crabs can chop legs pretty well, actually, but there are three problems I've seen in scouting mode:

1. People refuse to leg. Your enemies will leg you, it is much harder to protect your legs when they are being focused on, yet people refuse to shoot for their legs. Absolutely refuse!

2. People scatter to the seven winds. Instead of sticking together, focusing fire, possibly using the in game VoiP to coordinate, people take their four mechs to 8 different grids and get picked off one by one.

3. People are fearful of committing to a brawl. They take long range weapons, LRMs, LPLas, PPCs... then try and stand off from the enemy mechs. All the wrong weapons for 4v4. There is no front line to hide behind. There is precious few bits of armor to share between the four of you. All four mechs are needed up front, knife fighting. If you are not taking SLas, ERSLas, SPLAs, is AC20, or non-streak SRMs, you are, simply put, doing it wrong. Flamers and MG are acceptable backups to those big hitters, but do not take streaks, and do not take long range weapon systems. A brawl will happen 99% of the time. Bring the right tools for it!


Listen to this guy people!!!!

He knows what he's talking about (my God, I sound like some crazy fanatic advertising guy Posted Image)

Or don't believe me and check out his youtube channel:

https://www.youtube....hdevalis/videos

p.s. Hope that didn't sound too cheesy :P

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Posted 09 November 2016 - 09:05 AM

View Postpacifica812, on 09 November 2016 - 09:01 AM, said:


Listen to this guy people!!!!

He knows what he's talking about (my God, I sound like some crazy fanatic advertising guy Posted Image)

Or don't believe me and check out his youtube channel:

https://www.youtube....hdevalis/videos

p.s. Hope that didn't sound too cheesy Posted Image


:P Thanks for the free advertising. A new video is uploading from last night's scouting right now, actually. Demonstrating EXACTLY why you need to be fit to brawl in 4v4. Will be up in 10 minutes.

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Posted 09 November 2016 - 09:16 AM

Oh a Faction play event !

Then play without me, thanks !

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Posted 09 November 2016 - 09:18 AM

View Postpacifica812, on 09 November 2016 - 09:01 AM, said:


Listen to this guy people!!!!

He knows what he's talking about (my God, I sound like some crazy fanatic advertising guy Posted Image)

Or don't believe me and check out his youtube channel:

https://www.youtube....hdevalis/videos

p.s. Hope that didn't sound too cheesy Posted Image



but people already fail at the staiyng together and not engaging alone thing.

our usual Scouting looks like this:

scatter collect intel, if anyone has seen an opponent retreat gatehr somewhere and either battle them if they are in a battle setup or if they are in a runnersetup try to figure out where their dopship will come. or try to encage them to shoot them (legs so they cant run away)

but the amount fo times when we weren't 4 and saw single people trying to battle 4 guys is saddening.

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Posted 09 November 2016 - 09:19 AM

Sad to say but I see every next even is even worse then previous. Since "we are the heroes" (or how it was called?.. dont remember correctly) every event become more and more ordinary.
About current one:
1)New "terra terma' is worst map for scouting since it was introduced! HUGE fields of beacons and HUGE useless area... Dear devs, why didn't you fix scouting nodes placing?! While 4-4 is fun but those days very few of players care about nodes - 99% its "kill'em all" game.
2)Those long-time events even with mc price are hard to participate - you need to be able to play the game EVERY DAY while event lasts. Its hard to do, very. Instead make events more hard and challenging you making its 'time sink'. Stupid, IMHO.
3)Price...well, its close to absolutely useless - nothing unique, nothing really interesting.
What else... well, there are so many words about "cw is broken" and "how to fix it" (really FIX but not make it even less balanced) so I will not say something more.

Sorry but October and November events going to be worst events in MWO history since I've registered here in jan 2012... Get CHALLENGING events back! Give more really unique rewards (even cockpit items are counted).





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