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[Aramuside]

TK TikTok, on 09 November 2016 - 04:14 PM, said:

Don't worry, there is no Faction Play going on much with this challenge. You aren't missing much except NUMEROUS Scout Ghost drops that don't earn you any points/rewards for anything!

Never had a single ghost drop as CSJ merc last night - try playing for a side thats heavily outnumbered.

[Taffer]

JaidenHaze, on 08 November 2016 - 12:26 PM, said:

I'm so angry after seeing the rewards, its hard to stay calm enough to write this. Why are you guys offering the WC 2016 Supporter Standing Item and Warhorn items? They are for Tournament Supporter who payed a significant sum to gain them, as well as cbill bonus.

This was an exclusive reward. But now anyone can get it? I feel betrayed. Right now i definitely reconsider if i want to invest any amount of money with your black friday deals. I planned to spend 200 Dollar. But with this, i just dont think i can support this any longer.

This is a deal breaker.

Dont offer exclusive rewards for people who didnt qualify for them.

PoorDecisions, on 08 November 2016 - 12:28 PM, said:

I can't believe the WC 2016 Supporter Pack items are being GIVEN AWAY in an event. Those items were supposed to be reserved for those who actually paid to support the world championship teams.

Giving them away in this event belittles their value.

One thing I love about MMO games is how special everybody wants to feel, and how pissed they get when something they thought was special becomes a little less so, as if it matters.

Edited by Taffer, 10 November 2016 - 01:08 AM.

[ulrin]

Hi guys,

I just read "PGI hadnt really impress me this year", and i totally agree !
I discover Elite... They have a 1day IRL= 1 Day IG, have deploy a theater scene, and every day, something new is happening...
MWO was supposed to follow the same timeline, but that disappear...

Ok , u make new mech IG (u mech new make ?), but look :

In an universe in which the lore is writed for the future of our game period, we all know who will win the war (sry, clanner, u loose ur goal by the time, no more honor !!), PGI can be the rolemaster of this war, keeping the strategic decision out of player choice, we can have a carrier mode instead of the actual FP, in which battle are decide by PGI (and by the lore ofcourse), in which we should be soldier, with only one mech, with resupply and repair cost. even if we win or loose, thats only a small part of the war, and we cannot change the result, because "the lore is writed !!".

Public queue : Like in old wingcommander, that should be considered like a simulation inside MWO, u have all ur mech, u can train, but thats not the reel game !
Faction play, renamed carrer mode : u are a soldier of a faction, u cannot access all the mech u have in public, but have to climb the grade to have access to better stuff (close to old MW2). U CANNOT choose the planet u attack, cauz :
1) ur not the boss ! (u really believe to be at the same level than Victor ?)
2) Space Travel ! now, we can switch fromplanet to another one... wizout any transportation time.... Thats impossible, and there is no teleportation in this universe !

So, team could grow up in a Faction, having member becaming influent ppl of their faction, accessing firstly one dropship, then maybe several, flying from places to places to fight, but unable to switch in a fight 22Ly farer than our actual position !

[PFC Carsten]

What is this "Faction Play" that is mentioned in the event description?

[Zergling]

Whelp, got the warhorn in 3 scouting battles. Don't think I'll bother doing anymore Faction Play battles for the other rewards.

[Sky Hawk]

PFC Carsten, on 10 November 2016 - 03:53 AM, said:

What is this "Faction Play" that is mentioned in the event description?

It's a nice word, that you use to by pass the internet's "bad word" filter.. after you all night long tried to find a decent match in MWO Invasion/Scouting gamemode...

[TWIAFU]

CycKath, on 08 November 2016 - 01:01 PM, said:

As a solo non-comms pugger, passing due to Faction Play.

Good and the rest of the CW community thanks you too.

Now, if you can get the rest to follow suit CW will be great again.

[TWIAFU]

Desintegrator, on 09 November 2016 - 09:16 AM, said:

Oh a Faction play event !

Then play without me, thanks !

Thank you and your welcome.

[Korak18]

Yep ! Crab Yep! Kudos to the peeps who can make it work (kmdd in a Crab LOL)....PGI.. Really...hot maps 3 outa 4 yep...slower hotter (Lazers only mech)...yep..noobs galore...yep...seen everything mentioned previously ..THE BAD STUFF... yep...Few Novas as they team up with StreakCrows and are done in 6 matches or so...fun Being IS...no wonder FW and MWO are going down...sad...at least put a little thought into it PGI...balance etc... yep I know I am asking alot... = no FUN !!

Edited by Korak18, 10 November 2016 - 06:19 AM.

[PFC Carsten]

TWIAFU, on 10 November 2016 - 04:59 AM, said:

Good and the rest of the CW community thanks you too.

Now, if you can get the rest to follow suit CW will be [a] great [barren space on PGIs server] again.

FTFY in parentheses.

[Lily from animove]

Korak18, on 10 November 2016 - 05:55 AM, said:

Yep ! Crab Yep! Kudos to the peeps who can make it work....PGI.. Really...hot maps 3 outa 4 yep...slower hotter (Lazers only mech)...yep..noobs galore...yep...seen everything mentioned previously ..THE BAD STUFF... yep...Few Novas as they team up with StreakCrows and are done in 6 matches or so...fun Being IS...no wonder FW and MWO are going down...sad...at least put a little thought into it PGI...balance etc... yep I know I am asking alot...

oh comon, whats the issue? you need 40 score, so all you need is 80 AMAZING NEAR IMPOSSIBLE DAMAGE to do?. thats all you need for the 4scoutings per day. That should be doable for even the below average pilot without much trouble.

those 6KMDD's can also be gathered with crabs in Invasion mode if you fail to get them in the scouting.
becaus ein the end, you don't have to make the crab work, you just don't have to entirely screw it up in a crab.

Edited by Lily from animove, 10 November 2016 - 06:50 AM.

[DGTLDaemon]

Korak18, on 10 November 2016 - 05:55 AM, said:

Yep ! Crab Yep! Kudos to the peeps who can make it work (kmdd in a Crab LOL)....PGI.. Really...hot maps 3 outa 4 yep...slower hotter (Lazers only mech)...yep..noobs galore...yep...seen everything mentioned previously ..THE BAD STUFF... yep...Few Novas as they team up with StreakCrows and are done in 6 matches or so...fun Being IS...no wonder FW and MWO are going down...sad...at least put a little thought into it PGI...balance etc... yep I know I am asking alot... = no FUN !!

Novas are mostly laser vomit, too (ERML/ERSL/SPL). And Crabs are tough little ********, it's surprising how much punishment they can take (and dish out) before going down. Not that I'm saying that I've had any trouble killing Crabs so far, but it has more to do with the quailty of the pilots on the other side. I mean, when people just stand there focusing on your teammate and let you put alpha after alpha into their backs without even acknowledging your presence, they are going to die no matter what mech they're piloting. And I'm seeing a lot more of this style of play than usual during this event A competent Crab pilot with an MPL build, however, can be a royal pain in the a$$ to deal with.

[A single fart]

It's an upstreambattle trying to get kills or KMDD in crabs hen in the other side you get Novas or Stormcrows, with just much more Alpha.

[DGTLDaemon]

A single fart, on 10 November 2016 - 06:58 AM, said:

It's an upstreambattle trying to get kills or KMDD in crabs hen in the other side you get Novas or Stormcrows, with just much more Alpha.

Well, I can't really judge how it looks from the other side, since I'm a Ghost Bear loyalist and can only play the Clan side. But I'm used to dealing with Griffins, Centurions and Hunchbacks in scouting, and Crabs just seem much harder to kill. I don't know, maybe it's their hitboxes or something...

[Blind Baku]

Lily from animove, on 10 November 2016 - 06:49 AM, said:

oh comon, whats the issue? you need 40 score, so all you need is 80 AMAZING NEAR IMPOSSIBLE DAMAGE to do?. thats all you need for the 4scoutings per day. That should be doable for even the below average pilot without much trouble.

those 6KMDD's can also be gathered with crabs in Invasion mode if you fail to get them in the scouting.
becaus ein the end, you don't have to make the crab work, you just don't have to entirely screw it up in a crab.

Clan loyalist much? I used to run a CN9 AC20, 3SRM4s for what little scouting I did, because at that tonnage it dished out enough that it stood a chance. While the crab can take a hit, especially if you go STD engine, it cannot come close to the alpha of a Nova, most other Meds just can't get there.

The only consistent ways for IS to win in Scouting are either front loaded damage (AC's and SRM's) if you try to brawl hard (Griffs are the big winner here) or scouting lights (ECM Spider) for clutch hide-n-seek matches*

Add salt to that injury buy making a huge chunk of your drops hot maps, where you know both you AND the Novas are going to be overheating all day long... but the Nova gets quirks for overheating...

**** event is ****** for casuals...

"Get your KMDDs in invasion!" - Perhaps I don't have an hour per drop to spend... maybe I can only drop in 15 min increments so scouting or pug/group queue are all I got.

I do get it "Free event is free" and I shouldn't bemoan PGI for it, they do make sure events are going off every weekend (pretty much), but this was very obviously thought through by people who don't actually play MWO.

I may also have some residual salt from the garbage pre-order bonus for the Assassin...
*I have seen outlier examples where squads of LPL LCT-1V's have a grand time demolishing the clanner brawlers... but again, not the norm.

Edited by Blind Baku, 10 November 2016 - 08:08 AM.

[Count Zero 74]

#MAKEFACTIONPLAYGREATAGAIN

#STOPSCOUTING

[Lily from animove]

DGTLDaemon, on 10 November 2016 - 06:53 AM, said:

Novas are mostly laser vomit, too (ERML/ERSL/SPL). And Crabs are tough little ********, it's surprising how much punishment they can take (and dish out) before going down. Not that I'm saying that I've had any trouble killing Crabs so far, but it has more to do with the quailty of the pilots on the other side. I mean, when people just stand there focusing on your teammate and let you put alpha after alpha into their backs without even acknowledging your presence, they are going to die no matter what mech they're piloting. And I'm seeing a lot more of this style of play than usual during this event A competent Crab pilot with an MPL build, however, can be a royal pain in the a$$ to deal with.

thats the issue, you see crabs using xl's and ERLL's going into cqc, which totally is going wrong in scouting. there is so many people around simply building bad mechs it would nearly make me cry, but then i don't cry if it makes my Life easier.

@Blind baku a mechs firepower is his heattreshold + heat dissipation. just because the NVA has more lasers means it peaks damage early and then less to shoot later. just go and use med pulses and you have superioer burntime on your crabs comapred to small pulse laser novas. then sweep the legs and don't forget to NOT USE A XL that kills your crab. any non XL crab that egts opponents Not aiming for the legs is easy food for your crab that can even zombie with 2 MPL's.

also Nova quirks for oveheating? that quirk is uselss it just removes oveheatdamage, you simply do NOT overheat, if you end there it's over, if not your opponent was crap not taking that chance. you could also laod 1 or 2 flamers heating the nova up at encounter making even more of the excess lasers useless by removing the nov's ability to utilise the inital peak dps.

also, don't run AC20, run ac10, they are indeed better for scoutings as they leave you wiht more backup weapons/cooling. and they synchronise somehwat ebtter with the small or mediums lasers you may bring and 1 or 2 t of ammo are perfectly sufficient for the ac10 in scouting.

[Blind Baku]

Lily from animove, on 10 November 2016 - 09:02 AM, said:

thats the issue, you see crabs using xl's and ERLL's going into cqc, which totally is going wrong in scouting. there is so many people around simply building bad mechs it would nearly make me cry, but then i don't cry if it makes my Life easier.

@Blind baku a mechs firepower is his heattreshold + heat dissipation. just because the NVA has more lasers means it peaks damage early and then less to shoot later. just go and use med pulses and you have superioer burntime on your crabs comapred to small pulse laser novas. then sweep the legs and don't forget to NOT USE A XL that kills your crab. any non XL crab that egts opponents Not aiming for the legs is easy food for your crab that can even zombie with 2 MPL's.

also Nova quirks for oveheating? that quirk is uselss it just removes oveheatdamage, you simply do NOT overheat, if you end there it's over, if not your opponent was crap not taking that chance. you could also laod 1 or 2 flamers heating the nova up at encounter making even more of the excess lasers useless by removing the nov's ability to utilise the inital peak dps.

also, don't run AC20, run ac10, they are indeed better for scoutings as they leave you wiht more backup weapons/cooling. and they synchronise somehwat ebtter with the small or mediums lasers you may bring and 1 or 2 t of ammo are perfectly sufficient for the ac10 in scouting.

I get most of that, I truely do. I have also tested half a dozen builds on the 27SL (only one I own atm) and I really like the mech... in any other game mode. Scouting is too heavily alpha brawl focused, too fast for a maximum of 5mpls (best build I could figure out, though I am half tempted to max XL dual LPL or PPC and kite all day long because [expletive stream of adjectives] this trash, if my games are gonna suck, you're going to have to catch me). When the Nova can, and often packs and alpha of at least twice the alpha of a Crab, it just does not stand a chance.

"it just removes oveheatdamage" on caustic, when everyone is running hot load outs, this is big. As to "Bring flamers" You mean sacrifice a big portion (anywhere from 1/5 to 2/5ths) of my damage output just to hope I can overheat a mech that can alpha my arms off in 2 alphas? Also forcing me to play in SL or SPL range when range is sort of the one redeeming option my lasers have... (unless he's in a stock prime).

I get that a lot of people also say take the AC10, but with the exception of the match I ran into Kanajashi and his buddies, that CN9 build served very well, I would also have liked to try the LBX10 build, but the Alpha and focus of 2SRM4s and the AC20 meant a lot of tasty legs were had.

Edited by Blind Baku, 10 November 2016 - 09:24 AM.

[Appogee]

Have been waiting for 11 minutes so far to get a single Scouting match as a Clanner...

[Appogee]

Counting down from 10 minutes now, still no match.