4
Jun Watarase, on 18 November 2016 - 09:07 AM, said:
Yes -20% energy heat is pretty substantial...if you dont have to sacrifice a lot for it. So yea put -20% energy heat on something like the EBJ or timberwolf and it makes a huge differrence, apply it to the summoner with one or two energy hardpoints and its really meh. And the EBJ will still run 2x er PPC cooler.
Do the math on what -15% or -20% gives you. If you run Clan laser vomit the Timby can't keep up-- it simply doesn't have the tonnage for the extra 7-8 DHS that you would need. The Ebon can, but it's a glass cannon. Also, when running ERPPCs vs the Ebon Jag we're talking massive advantages in velocity and cooldown, not to mention JJs, structure, accel/decel, turn, etc.
Quote
I guess the extra side torso energy hardpoints help somewhat, but the summoner will always remain a sub optimal choice if other chassis can do the same (or nearly the same) thing, but better. And IMHO no chassis should have omni pods that are pretty much a "must have".
I've run 2 ERPPCs in the arms forever. "Sub-optimal" lol. Have you ever piloted this mech?
Jun Watarase, on 18 November 2016 - 09:27 AM, said:
It depends on what you define as better. If you really want the JJs or velocity quirk, ok. But the EBJ has its own set of advantages, and more important since it can run more DHS, it runs a LOT cooler.
No it doesn't run a "LOT cooler." The more energy weapons you throw on the more those heat gen quirks benefit the SMN. Do the math on 2LPL+ 4ERML laser vomit. The Ebon Jag can just edge the SMN, but to do so you give up JJs and all the other quirks.
Quote
But thats just hypothethical anyway, 2x erppcs is really low damage for a 70 tonner, especially when you cant even fire 3 alphas in a row without overheating (according to the calculations in li song's mechlab anyway).
Again, have you piloted this mech to any substantial degree? The SMN got a bad rep specifically because of the attitude you display: that a heavy must be a big-alpha line mech. The loyalty ST pods make it more viable in that role now, but otherwise you've got to play it as a poptarter and flanker. If you play it right it's an absolute beast.
Jun Watarase, on 18 November 2016 - 07:41 AM, said:
They are not popular for a reason, you see people bring good mechs all the time in higher tiers, faction play, the group queue, etc, because they are good and actually work. You see people bring junk mechs a lot less often in higher tiers.
How long has it been since you've played? Good players are bringing Summoners a lot more now. Good players were bringing Summoners before. It wasn't popular because the playstyle and skills required to make it shine were beyond the abilities of the average potato. It's not an "easy-mode" mech; you have to work to make it perform.
