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#1 FLG 01

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Posted 17 November 2016 - 05:28 PM

I want immersion. Battletech is a franchise with a rich lore which PGI can and should use when designing cockpit items.

What about the Sun Hou-Tzu pendant Kai gave Victor as an hanging item?
What about the Word of Blake (the book) as standing item?
What about a Northwind Highlanders Warhorn playing bagpipes?

etc.

There are many, many good options just waiting to be implemented.

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Posted 17 November 2016 - 05:36 PM

I agree.

Kind of funny that one of the few lore-based cockpit items in the game (seriously, the amount of lore-based items is like 1%), the Kerensky hologram, was limited edition for a few select whales. Basically nobody has it.

Pay 2 Lore

#3 Bud Crue

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Posted 17 November 2016 - 05:47 PM

Another example of PGI not understanding its market.

So PGI try this:
Buy an old copy of "Mechwarrior the BattleTech Role Playing Game"...(the name ought to be suspiciously familiar, no?)
Open book.
On a weekly or monthly basis replace the dartboard of balance with random pages from this book.
Wherever darts land use that as inspiration for content...be it cockpit items, CW content, events or event rewards.

I know it's crazy...the idea of using the source material associated with those licenses you pay so much for to inspire actual game content, but give it a try. Your customers of "Mechwarior Online A BattleTech Game" might just be interested in that silly stuff.

#4 Johnny Z

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Posted 17 November 2016 - 06:28 PM

I guess they finally added a side arm for pilots. That's a start.

#5 Bombast

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Posted 17 November 2016 - 07:05 PM

View PostFLG 01, on 17 November 2016 - 05:28 PM, said:

What about the Word of Blake (the book) as standing item?


I support this. It'll help us identify the Blakist before it's too late!

That being said, if their going to inject lore, maybe there's a better place to start then the cockpit (Not that there shouldn't be a ton there too). Like, I dunno... battlemech descriptions.

#6 RestosIII

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Posted 17 November 2016 - 07:22 PM

Lore? What's that? Is that the thing that PGI uses for a doorstop at their office?

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Posted 17 November 2016 - 07:25 PM

View PostRestosIII, on 17 November 2016 - 07:22 PM, said:

Lore? What's that? Is that the thing that PGI uses for a doorstop at their office?


No, that's the fully completed but never to be released Flea model. Lore is what they use to prop up the break room table's legs so it wont wobble.

#8 Lucian Nostra

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Posted 17 November 2016 - 07:40 PM

first I want to say I totally agree I would love to see more battletech stuff, but I still think PGI really needs to find a way to get us this warhorn



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Posted 17 November 2016 - 08:00 PM

I would take an open box of tooth picks, cigar in an ash tray, stuff that a person would really have in them. A real cup holder?

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Posted 17 November 2016 - 08:04 PM

View PostLucian Nostra, on 17 November 2016 - 07:40 PM, said:

first I want to say I totally agree I would love to see more battletech stuff, but I still think PGI really needs to find a way to get us this warhorn




Not bad, but this one is better.


It goes with everything, even killing blows!

#11 Tristan Winter

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Posted 17 November 2016 - 08:05 PM

View PostBud Crue, on 17 November 2016 - 05:47 PM, said:

Another example of PGI not understanding its market.
So PGI try this:
Buy an old copy of "Mechwarrior the BattleTech Role Playing Game"...(the name ought to be suspiciously familiar, no?)
Open book.
On a weekly or monthly basis replace the dartboard of balance with random pages from this book.
Wherever darts land use that as inspiration for content...be it cockpit items, CW content, events or event rewards.
I know it's crazy...the idea of using the source material associated with those licenses you pay so much for to inspire actual game content, but give it a try. Your customers of "Mechwarior Online A BattleTech Game" might just be interested in that silly stuff.

You don't seem to understand that the demographic of predominantly male 30-50 year old Battletech / Mechwarrior veterans are mostly interested in decorating their cockpits with:
  • Ice cream
  • Pancakes
  • Cupcakes
  • Lavalamps
  • Plush monkeys
  • Teddybears
  • Scented candles
Also, we tend to prefer decals in the shape of astrological symbols, chemical symbols (especially the symbols for aluminium!!) and 15 different traditional blade weapons from South-East Asia (including the tabas sword, the parang machete and the moro dagger, of course).

It's called marketing research.

#12 XxXAbsolutZeroXxX

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Posted 17 November 2016 - 10:47 PM

View PostLucian Nostra, on 17 November 2016 - 07:40 PM, said:

first I want to say I totally agree I would love to see more battletech stuff, but I still think PGI really needs to find a way to get us this warhorn






Accept no imitations.

Diego Sanchez invented that !@#%.

Posted Image

Edited by I Zeratul I, 17 November 2016 - 10:48 PM.


#13 SnagaDance

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Posted 18 November 2016 - 01:46 AM

View PostRestosIII, on 17 November 2016 - 07:22 PM, said:

Lore? What's that? Is that the thing that PGI uses for a doorstop at their office?


If you ask PGI they'll tell you that Lore is Data's evil twin brother. Posted Image

#14 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 18 November 2016 - 02:36 AM

View PostBombast, on 17 November 2016 - 08:04 PM, said:


Not bad, but this one is better.





It goes with everything, even killing blows!

son, Charlies theme


But nothing gets you more pumped than Adon's theme

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 18 November 2016 - 02:39 AM.


#15 Bud Crue

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Posted 18 November 2016 - 04:33 AM

View PostTristan Winter, on 17 November 2016 - 08:05 PM, said:

You don't seem to understand that the demographic of predominantly male 30-50 year old Battletech / Mechwarrior veterans are mostly interested in decorating their cockpits with:
  • Ice cream
  • Pancakes
  • Cupcakes
  • Lavalamps
  • Plush monkeys
  • Teddybears
  • Scented candles
Also, we tend to prefer decals in the shape of astrological symbols, chemical symbols (especially the symbols for aluminium!!) and 15 different traditional blade weapons from South-East Asia (including the tabas sword, the parang machete and the moro dagger, of course).





It's called marketing research.


This sort of thing just drives me nuts. For all the times Russ has mentioned the difficulty of monetizing the game, and yet there is so much potential if he just bothered to pay attention to who actually plays a video game based on this IP. I mean I can just hear the staff meeting:

"Okay team this month's event rewards is going to include a new cockpit item. I think the finalists were between a plate of Strawberry Waffles or a Sternsnacht Claymore heavy pistol. Lets see some hands...okay, waffles are the unanimous choice. Yeah, that one was pretty obvious from the get go. Everybody likes waffles and guns are kinda scary. Okay next on the agenda: player demographics...dem-o-graph-ics...hmm. I don't know that word, so we'll just skip over that, whatever it is. Ah yes, here's an item we can do quickly: yeah decals and colors...remember no pinks people that would make our mechs look silly, but hey Alex can you get your team working on maybe some smiling star dekkals that say things like 'Super Star' or 'I'm A Star'...that sort of thing. I think the toddlers playing our game would really that..."

Edited by Bud Crue, 18 November 2016 - 04:35 AM.


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Posted 18 November 2016 - 04:39 AM

B A G P I P E S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 18 November 2016 - 05:15 AM

What about custom HUD colour schemes.

minimal effort enhancement right there.

#18 FLG 01

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Posted 18 November 2016 - 07:02 AM

View PostBombast, on 17 November 2016 - 07:05 PM, said:

That being said, if their going to inject lore, maybe there's a better place to start then the cockpit (Not that there shouldn't be a ton there too). Like, I dunno... battlemech descriptions.


Noone would disagree. But here is the thing: we will get new cockpit items; PGI will divert resources to create them.
And since we are getting them anyway I think it makes sense to get items from the lore rather than nonsense items. There is no loss at all because the resources needed are the same.

Lore-based cockpit items are a win-win deal.


View PostBombast, on 17 November 2016 - 07:05 PM, said:

I support this. It'll help us identify the Blakist before it's too late!


The Peace of Blake will be with you, whether you want it or not. Posted Image

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Posted 18 November 2016 - 07:18 AM

View PostBud Crue, on 18 November 2016 - 04:33 AM, said:


This sort of thing just drives me nuts. For all the times Russ has mentioned the difficulty of monetizing the game, and yet there is so much potential if he just bothered to pay attention to who actually plays a video game based on this IP. I mean I can just hear the staff meeting:

"Okay team this month's event rewards is going to include a new cockpit item. I think the finalists were between a plate of Strawberry Waffles or a Sternsnacht Claymore heavy pistol. Lets see some hands...okay, waffles are the unanimous choice. Yeah, that one was pretty obvious from the get go. Everybody likes waffles and guns are kinda scary. Okay next on the agenda: player demographics...dem-o-graph-ics...hmm. I don't know that word, so we'll just skip over that, whatever it is. Ah yes, here's an item we can do quickly: yeah decals and colors...remember no pinks people that would make our mechs look silly, but hey Alex can you get your team working on maybe some smiling star dekkals that say things like 'Super Star' or 'I'm A Star'...that sort of thing. I think the toddlers playing our game would really that..."


Holy good god, logged in just for this. Hilarious and sad but true at the same time.

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Posted 18 November 2016 - 07:27 AM

Good god! You said the word. Lore?!

(Yes I completely agree)

View PostTristan Winter, on 17 November 2016 - 08:05 PM, said:

Also, we tend to prefer decals in the shape of astrological symbols, chemical symbols (especially the symbols for aluminium!!) and 15 different traditional blade weapons from South-East Asia (including the tabas sword, the parang machete and the moro dagger, of course).

It's called marketing research.


Though, um, us pinoys kinda do dig the Parangs and Bolos. Just saying. For once their market research isn't that bad.

I'm sure Chemistry students or Pharmacists/Chemists would dig chemical symbols on their mechs. RIGHT?!

Edited by rolly, 18 November 2016 - 07:28 AM.






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