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#1 Hunka Junk

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Posted 18 November 2016 - 12:35 PM

Other games have them. Can we?

I don't know if they have to be set up with permission, but they mostly seem set up independently of the official game site?

Of course, I've no idea about programming such a thing, but it seems people are keenly interested in population.

#2 NoiseCrypt

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Posted 18 November 2016 - 12:41 PM

What metrics are you looking for ?
When you can't join and leave matches realtime, alot of them actually doesn't make a lot of sense.

#3 Dr Wubs

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 12:50 AM

Something like this:

http://ps2.fisu.pw/online/

But I guess since we're in and out, maybe uniques per hour per server?

#4 NoiseCrypt

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 01:43 AM

Same tier QP matches pr. hour.
+1 tier QP matches pr. hour.
+2 tier QP marches pr. hour.

This shows the QP activity. But says nothing about a specific tiers activity.
Adding specific tier activity would probably keep alot of people away, since most would wait until their own tier saw high activity. It would also enable seal clubbing since people could wait for favorable activity in lower tiers, and low activity in their own tier.

I would actually prefere any activity to only be shown as historic data. That way the resolution could be really high and it wouldn't support sync dropping or people who wants to exploit the current server population in some way.

Edited by NoiseCrypt, 19 November 2016 - 01:49 AM.


#5 Peter2k

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 01:44 AM

Was removed forever ago

Because people were interested in population numbers


#6 dervishx5

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 05:49 AM

View PostPeter2k, on 19 November 2016 - 01:44 AM, said:

Was removed forever ago

Because people were interested in population numbers


"These numbers do not indicate the numbers we want, Remove them. It is embarrassing."

That's the exact reason the feature disappeared when UI 2.0 rolled around.

#7 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 05:56 AM

View Postdervishx5, on 19 November 2016 - 05:49 AM, said:


"These numbers do not indicate the numbers we want, Remove them. It is embarrassing."

That's the exact reason the feature disappeared when UI 2.0 rolled around.

I am a bit skeptical, references?

#8 Ghogiel

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 06:09 AM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 19 November 2016 - 05:56 AM, said:

I am a bit skeptical, references?

iirc it was not UI 2.0 that removed it, it disapeared while still UI 1.0 during closed beta. In fact I think it was only in the UI for like a month or 2. And the quote was more like "The online player counter was removed as is too easy to misinterpret"

#9 DiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 06:22 AM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 19 November 2016 - 05:56 AM, said:

I am a bit skeptical, references?

Posted Image
Thanks PrtScn you serve people well!

#10 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 06:29 AM

View PostGhogiel, on 19 November 2016 - 06:09 AM, said:

iirc it was not UI 2.0 that removed it, it disapeared while still UI 1.0 during closed beta. In fact I think it was only in the UI for like a month or 2. And the quote was more like "The online player counter was removed as is too easy to misinterpret"

thanks for that.

View PostDiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley, on 19 November 2016 - 06:22 AM, said:

Posted Image
Thanks PrtScn you serve people well!

I wasn't claiming it was never in the game, I had a problem with the quote the other gut gave. which now makes it seem like dervish was being a little deceptive. Don't quote people and then either make something up or twist words. It's dishonest.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 19 November 2016 - 06:29 AM.


#11 DiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 06:35 AM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 19 November 2016 - 06:29 AM, said:

thanks for that.

I wasn't claiming it was never in the game, I had a problem with the quote the other gut gave. which now makes it seem like dervish was being a little deceptive. Don't quote people and then either make something up or twist words. It's dishonest.

They removed it because people were using it as how many people played MWO and using to fuel doom and gloom this game is dying threads.

#12 Hunka Junk

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 06:37 AM

And I assume that number is based on the number of people with the mechlab open as opposed to in matches?

I've racked up insane hours because I sometimes (often) forget to shut that down

#13 DiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 06:39 AM

View PostHunka Junk, on 19 November 2016 - 06:37 AM, said:

And I assume that number is based on the number of people with the mechlab open as opposed to in matches?

I've racked up insane hours because I sometimes (often) forget to shut that down

I've played MWO as of yesterday according to their numbers (because I logged in). However I haven't played a match since Feb.

#14 R5D4

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 06:47 AM

Closest we have currently is probably this:

http://steamcharts.com/app/342200#All

It's not really that accurate as it assumes people are coming in through steam but still...

Edited by R5D4, 19 November 2016 - 06:48 AM.


#15 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 06:47 AM

View PostHunka Junk, on 19 November 2016 - 06:37 AM, said:

And I assume that number is based on the number of people with the mechlab open as opposed to in matches?

I've racked up insane hours because I sometimes (often) forget to shut that down

I don't think that anybody here is going to believe that more than 2% of players somehow rack up hours because of odd reasons like that.

#16 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 06:54 AM

View PostR5D4, on 19 November 2016 - 06:47 AM, said:

Closest we have currently is probably this:

http://steamcharts.com/app/342200#All

It's not really that accurate as it assumes people are coming in through steam but still...

one has to be careful and also understand how to reach charts. After December the game was drastically losing the new people that came through to steam. the chart shows an increase in the last months but a drop off again in the last 30 days. I can really only guess from this chart that the trend of increase and drop-off will continue due to the nature of online games and player retention.

this chart doesn't correlate with anything, that is also a major problem. another thing we can take notice is the difference between average and peek players, barring may the peak players have been around a stable mean average.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 19 November 2016 - 06:56 AM.


#17 Hunka Junk

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 06:55 AM

View PostR5D4, on 19 November 2016 - 06:47 AM, said:

Closest we have currently is probably this:

http://steamcharts.com/app/342200#All

It's not really that accurate as it assumes people are coming in through steam but still...


Yar, I already follow that, but considering how long the game was out before steam, I wonder about total numbers.

#18 STEF_

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 07:10 AM

View PostR5D4, on 19 November 2016 - 06:47 AM, said:

Closest we have currently is probably this:

http://steamcharts.com/app/342200#All

It's not really that accurate as it assumes people are coming in through steam but still...

But that shows only who play mwo using steam.

Which is a very low population.

#19 Hunka Junk

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 07:24 AM

View PostStefka Kerensky, on 19 November 2016 - 07:10 AM, said:

But that shows only who play mwo using steam.

Which is a very low population.


Is it low? Or half?

I guess we're not allowed to know.

#20 C E Dwyer

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 07:25 AM

How many people here actually use steam...I used it once, because I thought I might try use it to collect badges, for the hell of it.

Due to P.G.I just copying what we already had, I never used it again to play M.W.O





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