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#41 cazidin

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 07:17 PM

So, let's see...

First. NGNG is working, as community managers, members of PGI's staff, and yet promise to provide a totally objective and non-biased attitude when dealing with PGI? To ask the hard questions that are safely locked away on the forums? To propose, good ideas, perhaps?

Second. We have no fewer than 3 members of PGI, including Russ Bullock himself apparently, to attempt and quell the flames of burning rage of the theory that IGP was the scapegoat for any and all problems with PGI - that, I might add, have not only persisted but have arguably worsened given the state of the game and the lack of any real direct communication between the players and the developers.

Third. Going back to the fact that THREE MEMBERS OF PGI, INCLUDING RUSS BULLOCK HIMSELF have commented on this thread to argue against the legitimacy of the theory. This is unprecedented! On a good day we get Tina doing her job, but to have the rest of you here? Yeah, that's odd.

Fourth. Hi Tina. Just so we're clear, I don't blame you entirely. I'm under the assumption that, for the most part, you're told to spin in your chair and help the texture artists make cute and happy bunnies. After the last two moderator debacles perhaps I can't blame PGI for wanting a hands-off approach, despite the innumerable consequences.

Fifth. Why is all the root rum gone?

P.S. Matt. I hope you're ready to be pissed off with a lot of people.

Tina. You'll be needed her for the next few days, I suspect. This fire won't go out that easily.

Russ. Please come to the forums more often and talk to us here. I've called you out for a LOT of things, namely the Command Console, but I'd like to think you genuinely love this franchise and want to make this game better. Work with us, here, on your own forums. We may not always be nice, we may not always agree, but I think if you listened to us here you'd dramatically improve the relationship you have with us.

Edited by cazidin, 24 November 2016 - 07:21 PM.


#42 N0MAD

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 07:17 PM

LOL, geez 3 PGI people defending a simple statement most of us know.
An acquaintance huh, ROFL. Didnt notice for a long time PGI..IGP...ROFL...
Dunno bout you guys but at this stage and for a long time i beleive Zero of what these guys say.
Was about to watch a comedy movie but after this i dont think i would be entertained enough..

#43 Bud Crue

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 07:19 PM

View PostRuss Bullock, on 24 November 2016 - 03:02 PM, said:

I don't know why Phil used the choice of words that he did, but as Matt says it was simply words.


So someone makes a statement or assertion, but hey, it is all BS and doesn't matter because "it was simply words".

And now I understand that these people aren't as clueless as they seem in their inability to comprehend the vitriol around here. Their utter inability to understand the feelings of betrayal in the founders or even more recent players. To them they didn't lie or advertise falsely or make mistaken assertions. No, they simply used "words". Words that apparently have no meaning. Well. Thats. Just. Great.

To them past promises of development. Past assertions of game direction. Past statements of "soon" or "in 90 days", etc. should never have been taken seriously or actually believed since, as Russ says, those statements, assertions and promises...were "simply words".

It is all perfectly clear now.



What a great and informative thread.
Geezus.

#44 Andi Nagasia

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 07:19 PM

IGP or Infinite Game Publishing, was once known as Jinx Infinity Publishing(cant Find Original Source)
IGP, can only be found on the MechWarrior Tactics Wiki, and no longer has its own wiki Page,

im not here to speculate, but Kelly Zmak once President & CEO of Infinite Game Publishing,
is now Co-Founder/COO at Didimo [Techstars London 2016], i leave you to form your own Opinions here,

and please remember to keep it civil, Thank you, ;)

#45 Bud Crue

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 07:22 PM

View PostAndi Nagasia, on 24 November 2016 - 07:19 PM, said:

and please remember to keep it civil, Thank you, Posted Image


I get the COC, but really why keep it civil?

They're simply words.

#46 Bill Lumbar

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 07:30 PM

Words have meaning.....and to just say they are just words once spoken or written, depending on what those words are and a given sentence typed or stated, and to claim them as just words.....
just wow....ummm yeahPosted Image

Edited by Bill Lumbar, 24 November 2016 - 07:31 PM.


#47 Bill Lumbar

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 07:34 PM

View PostBud Crue, on 24 November 2016 - 07:22 PM, said:


I get the COC, but really why keep it civil?

They're simply words.

https://youtu.be/Adgx9wt63NY

Edited by Bill Lumbar, 24 November 2016 - 07:46 PM.


#48 RestosIII

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 07:43 PM

View PostBud Crue, on 24 November 2016 - 07:19 PM, said:


So someone makes a statement or assertion, but hey, it is all BS and doesn't matter because "it was simply words".

And now I understand that these people aren't as clueless as they seem in their inability to comprehend the vitriol around here. Their utter inability to understand the feelings of betrayal in the founders or even more recent players. To them they didn't lie or advertise falsely or make mistaken assertions. No, they simply used "words". Words that apparently have no meaning. Well. Thats. Just. Great.

To them past promises of development. Past assertions of game direction. Past statements of "soon" or "in 90 days", etc. should never have been taken seriously or actually believed since, as Russ says, those statements, assertions and promises...were "simply words".

It is all perfectly clear now.



What a great and informative thread.
Geezus.


I was laughing until around 30 minutes ago. I'm not laughing any more. I'm actually getting angry enough that I can't even joke about it at this point. This is how riots start.

#49 Bill Lumbar

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 07:47 PM

View PostRestosIII, on 24 November 2016 - 07:43 PM, said:


I was laughing until around 30 minutes ago. I'm not laughing any more. I'm actually getting angry enough that I can't even joke about it at this point. This is how riots start.

It is what it is.... and really this shouldn't be a surprise guys, come on....given the path this has been going, is it?

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 07:49 PM

View PostRestosIII, on 24 November 2016 - 07:43 PM, said:


I was laughing until around 30 minutes ago. I'm not laughing any more. I'm actually getting angry enough that I can't even joke about it at this point. This is how riots start.


Restos the Third, have you read what I wrote about this? Anything you'd like to add?

#51 N0MAD

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 07:49 PM

Google...A mans word..

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 07:50 PM

View PostRestosIII, on 24 November 2016 - 04:23 PM, said:


BRB adding the image you posted to my imgur account as well.

Oh, and I find it hilarious that I have more posts on this forum than Russ, Matt, and Tina combined.

Hmmm, that's odd. Is there a cut-off date where the forums stop remembering your previous posts? Because according to Russ' forum profile, he's literally only made 1 post before.

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Russ must do all his other posts using an alt account...Posted Image

#53 Kali Rinpoche

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 07:50 PM

And I just threw away my Tin-foil hat. I may have to go get it out of the trash to really enjoy this thread! :)

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 07:51 PM

Its like I bought into Warhammer40K eternal crusade and I haven't played it in months... I mean months man! Their have been updates, and content added like today even, but Idk.... something about it. Just makes me not wanna play it. Posted Image

#55 Alistair Winter

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 07:52 PM

View PostRuss Bullock, on 24 November 2016 - 03:02 PM, said:

Thanks Matt.

I don't know why Phil used the choice of words that he did, but as Matt says it was simply words.

I don't think anyone at IGP or PGI even realized that our acronyms were each other reversed until you the community pointed it out.

One last time: Piranha had zero ownership or involvement in the management of IGP they were a completely separate publishing entity formed by an acquaintance from Vancouver. But we formed a very classic publisher / developer relationship until they decided to close their doors.

That is all.

This is all well and good, but could you please buff jump jets?

#56 RestosIII

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 07:56 PM

View Postcazidin, on 24 November 2016 - 07:49 PM, said:


Restos the Third, have you read what I wrote about this? Anything you'd like to add?


All I could add right now would get me at least a 30 day ban. There's plenty I'd like to add, but no, there's nothing I will add at this time.

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 07:56 PM

View PostAndi Nagasia, on 24 November 2016 - 07:19 PM, said:

IGP or Infinite Game Publishing, was once known as Jinx Infinity Publishing(cant Find Original Source)
IGP, can only be found on the MechWarrior Tactics Wiki, and no longer has its own wiki Page,

im not here to speculate, but Kelly Zmak once President & CEO of Infinite Game Publishing,
is now Co-Founder/COO at Didimo [Techstars London 2016], i leave you to form your own Opinions here,

and please remember to keep it civil, Thank you, Posted Image


It's awfully convenient that no info for IGP can be found anywhere...

But we DO love to speculate...

#58 Bud Crue

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 07:58 PM

View PostRestosIII, on 24 November 2016 - 07:43 PM, said:


I was laughing until around 30 minutes ago. I'm not laughing any more. I'm actually getting angry enough that I can't even joke about it at this point. This is how riots start.


I've been at a slow boil since the April town hall, but still irrationally give PGI the benefit of the doubt because I want and hope CW to get fixed.

Today had a great day, great meal, hosted family and friends. All good. Log in before bed just to check the forms...and I see this steaming pile of a thread. Got to Russ's lil comment and overzealous protestation (methinks the lady protesteth too much), and I swear to f-ing god I about triggered. As far as I am concerned this is it. This is proof that these people are not "developing" a game based on a 40 year old beloved IP, but rather just running a con to get old nostalgic whales to buy as many mechs as possible before the doors are shut by microsoft or by their own failure to actually DEVELOP the game.

Christ on a ******* this is not hard stuff. Here is a hint: Tell your customers what you intend to do, and then create a track record of actually doing it. Yes, you might fail along the way, but so what? Stick to your word and people will come back as long as you put in the effort and are honest about your intentions. As far as I am concerned everything since April and now this thread as a metaphorical exclamation point is proof positive that PGI, or at least Russ is incapable of being honest or actually putting in that effort.

Edit: c r a c k er is edited? Whatever whitey.

Edited by Bud Crue, 24 November 2016 - 08:00 PM.


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Posted 24 November 2016 - 08:03 PM

You could've just summed up the issue in a simple meme:


#60 Bud Crue

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 08:03 PM

View PostBill Lumbar, on 24 November 2016 - 07:47 PM, said:

It is what it is.... and really this shouldn't be a surprise guys, come on....given the path this has been going, is it?


No, but as irrational as it is...I always hoped for better.





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