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[Belacose]

I'm guessing around 20% of my mechs were leveled with GXP. I spent real money purchasing MCs to be able to convert EXP to GXP to do this.

Also a lot of my Modules were unlocked via the same above process.

AM I going to get all this GXP reimbursed Or am I simply SOL?


A couple of real life friends are telling me that they are flat out going to quit if they don't get fully reimbursed. They want their MCs from conversions returned too.

I really sense a huge backlash manifesting right after the new Skill Tree goes live if people feel robbed. I'm picturing a substantial % of the paying customer base to say "Adios MWO"!

Thoughts?

Edited by Belacose, 10 December 2016 - 06:59 AM.

[Bombast]

All XP is getting refunded, which anyone who spent even a few seconds checking would know.

You are not getting MC back, though. Why would you?

[Roughneck45]

All XP you spend is coming back as Legacy GXP.

That includes all the mech XP spent too, so its kinda like getting a free GXP conversion.

My question is if the amount of XP it took to max out a skill tree will be the same amount it takes to max out the new one. My guess is no, and that the grind will take longer.

Edited by Roughneck45, 10 December 2016 - 07:14 AM.

[Bulletsponge0]

Roughneck45, on 10 December 2016 - 07:11 AM, said:

All XP you spend is coming back as Legacy GXP.

That includes all the mech XP spent too, so its kinda like getting a free GXP conversion.

My question is if the amount of XP it took to max out a skill tree will be the same amount it takes to max out the new one. My guess is no, and that the grind will take longer.

my guess is that the grind will be exactly 3X as long for a single mech as before, since the 3 variant rule is being eliminated

[Aetes Nakatomi]

All Mech XP (spent) will be refunded as GXP, all GXP spent will be refunded and all C-Bills spent on modules will be refunded.

As for people who paid MC to save time and insta elite Mechs, I highly doubt it will be refunded, just as those of us that did it the hard way will not be getting our real life time back (grinding skill-less Mechs through the tree, damaging our KDRs).

Edited by Aetes Nakatomi, 10 December 2016 - 09:19 AM.

[BlueVisionWarrior Online]

The trick here is to take any mechs that are near completing an xp skill slot, especially garbage mechs you don't intend to play, and complete that slot before the refund. You get all your xp used on garbage mechs back as GXP you can use on good mechs under the new system. Unused XP on a mech you never intend to play is wasted. (EDIT: I don't mean you lose unused XP, I just mean it sits there unused unless you use to make it GXP)

I doubt they'll give back tho, the point of this is to get you to spend that black friday again lol

Edited by BlueVisionWarrior Online, 11 December 2016 - 07:45 AM.

[Roughneck45]

BlueVisionWarrior Online, on 10 December 2016 - 09:05 AM, said:

Unused XP on a mech you never intend to play is wasted.

It does say spent in their announcement for it...

Complete BS if all XP isn't refunded.

I have a couple mechs I like to play more than others, so as I understand it right now, to have the XP carry over to Legacy GXP It has to be converted into GXP using MC.

Really hope this isn't the case, and that all the XP earned is converted and not just the XP spent.

Aetes Nakatomi, on 10 December 2016 - 08:47 AM, said:

All Mech XP (spent or stored) will be refunded as GXP

Still looking for where they mentioned stored XP but I hope you are right.

Edited by Roughneck45, 10 December 2016 - 09:15 AM.

[Aetes Nakatomi]

Roughneck45, on 10 December 2016 - 09:17 AM, said:

It does say spent in their announcement for it...


Still looking for where they mentioned stored XP but I hope you are right.

I just changed my post. I cannot find a PGI source for that.

[kyfire]

XP is not going away. All mechs will continue to get XP, all xp on a mech now will still be there. ALL XP, GXP & Cbills spent to Basic, Elite & Master a mech will be refunded along with the cost of any modules you own.
No where has it been said that you will lose any XP on any mech ( if I'm incorrect here please provide links to any OFFICIAL PGI announcement)

[Koniving]

In the past, PGI has done MC refunds... but in the past they also expressly said they would.. This was when you would literally lose ALL your 'Mechs, all your Bays, all your everything.

I do not believe nor do I expect them to refund MC GXP conversions.

I did expect total XP and GXP to be distributed appropriately to each mech... so the news that it is all coming back as GXP is actually encouraging and to be honest -- I should have expected it as what I had expected would have been convoluted...like many of PGI's ideas are.

This skill tree isn't one of those convoluted ideas, though as I state in an upcoming video... there's a real chance to screw up royally here.

[TLBFestus]

Roughneck45, on 10 December 2016 - 07:11 AM, said:

My question is if the amount of XP it took to max out a skill tree will be the same amount it takes to max out the new one. My guess is no, and that the grind will take longer.

Which is devaluing our XP/GXP isn't it? Suddenly it takes more of our "original" XP/GXP to accomplish the same effect. In essence devaluing it.

[LordKnightFandragon]

Bulletsponge0, on 10 December 2016 - 08:30 AM, said:

my guess is that the grind will be exactly 3X as long for a single mech as before, since the 3 variant rule is being eliminated

Thank the Mech gods. That 3 variant rule was so bad it hurt.

[kyfire]

TLBFestus, on 10 December 2016 - 10:34 AM, said:

Which is devaluing our XP/GXP isn't it? Suddenly it takes more of our "original" XP/GXP to accomplish the same effect. In essence devaluing it.

Not really, as we don't know exactly how much it's going to cost. Also, we had to spent XP/GXP on 3 mechs to master, so where is the devaluing?

[Roughneck45]

kyfire, on 10 December 2016 - 11:24 AM, said:

Not really, as we don't know exactly how much it's going to cost. Also, we had to spent XP/GXP on 3 mechs to master, so where is the devaluing?

If the new system costs more to max out than the old one our XP is worth less than it was before. Like you said though, all depends on the cost that we don't know yet.

I'm okay with this, as long as we get ALL XP converted into legacy GXP. I know I have a few mechs that have a ridiculous amount of Mech XP sitting unused, and if all of it is lost with the switch to the new system I'll be pretty pissed.

Edited by Roughneck45, 10 December 2016 - 11:37 AM.

[kyfire]

Roughneck45, on 10 December 2016 - 11:36 AM, said:

If the new system costs more to max out than the old one our XP is worth less than it was before. Like you said though, all depends on the cost that we don't know yet.

I'm okay with this, as long as we get ALL XP converted into legacy GXP. I know I have a few mechs that have a ridiculous amount of Mech XP sitting unused, and if all of it is lost with the switch to the new system I'll be pretty pissed.

I've seen alot of folks posting about losing existing XP on mechs. Where has PGI said this was the case?

[Roughneck45]

kyfire, on 10 December 2016 - 11:40 AM, said:

I've seen alot of folks posting about losing existing XP on mechs. Where has PGI said this was the case?

They didn't say they would, but they didn't say they wouldn't either.

The announcement says all SPENT xp will be refunded.

Don't know if its just bad wording or if its going to really work that way. I don't see them getting rid of our unused XP pools but until they clarify I'm not ruling it out.

EDIT: Re-reading it makes me think poor wording. They don't mention mech XP changing, so we're probably good.

Edited by Roughneck45, 10 December 2016 - 11:49 AM.

[Michael Knell]

Everybody is talking about mech xp and gxp SPENT being refunded. What about the mech xp and gxp that isn't spent at all, or accumulated on mechs that were mastered already?? I mean I have about 350k accumulated on all of my mastered Marauders that I can't spend anywhere. Right now I can only convert them to GXP for MC. What happens to that mech xp when the skills system sets off?

[Bandilly]

I don't understand the expenditure of MC for conversion. Seems like the absolute worst way to spend MC, aside maybe from buying cbills.

[Mcgral18]

Michael Knell, on 10 December 2016 - 12:13 PM, said:

Everybody is talking about mech xp and gxp SPENT being refunded. What about the mech xp and gxp that isn't spent at all, or accumulated on mechs that were mastered already?? I mean I have about 350k accumulated on all of my mastered Marauders that I can't spend anywhere. Right now I can only convert them to GXP for MC. What happens to that mech xp when the skills system sets off?

It stays exactly where it is
That XP isn't changing