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[BLOOD WOLF]

It's exactly like the title states, but get more detailed with the info.

What about them? can a Direwolf do better?

Do they carry any game they are in?

Where they the determining factor in a match?

and why doesn't everyone run them all the time?

I already know some of the trolls are going to come stomping through, but anybody who isn't deathlike give me a detailed analysis in an answer. What is it? and is it true? let everyone know?

Also Solaris tomorrow, anybody want to test their luck and prove it?

Also to the guys that don't like me, save it for another thread, I want to hear what other people think.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 12 December 2016 - 07:01 PM.

[Angel of Annihilation]

Why do people keep harping on this over and over and over. You do realize that there has to be a "best" mech right? Not trying to troll you here but what does it matter? Also best at what, being an Assault?

Honestly I am tried of hearing about the KDK-3 or debating about how good or bad it is because there are a million threads already with deep, heated debates that go deep into detail why or why not the KDK-3 is the best mech. No need for another one.

[Mcgral18]

They pack considerable firepower while moving quickly for their weight, without the sacrifice of durability

The twist range nerf hurt their durability some, but they pack fearsome guns



They are the best mech in the game, for their mix of speed, high mounts, and firepower.


They can carry many games, but not all can be won. Not like the SupaHunch DakkaBear of GodQuirk and 1 GH multiplier fame.
# 8 Solo Kills, 10 KMDD


As they stand, potent. Arguably not OP anymore, but still the best pick there is for almost every situation. There's a reason you see 2X Kodiaks in just about every MRBC match where they're available. Dakka or Poke, they win

[El Bandito]

1. Kodiak is better chassis than the Whale due to much faster speed and high mounts. Is it the best chassis in game? It is the best Assault in game currently, that much is 100% certain.

2. If you do not focus on the Kodiaks (especially KDK-3) when the opportunity rises, then your team will be mauled. Can they carry? Not by themselves alone but they can contribute to match results consistently better than all other mechs.

3. Not everyone is Assault pilot, so not everyone wants to pilot a 100 tonner. Many of those who did, got bored of it. KDK-3 especially have only 1 or 2 builds.

4. As for Solaris, KDK-SB is a mean duelist. Though at that range Atlas-S is probably better.

Edited by El Bandito, 12 December 2016 - 07:10 PM.

[LordNothing]

i think its overrated personally. it seems to have survived many nerfs, mostly because of its hardpoints and their placement and the fact that its a battlemech, but its still a magnet for all sorts of weaponry. play any other assault, and you can just kind of stand next to the kodiak and fight with impunity until the bear explodes.

Edited by LordNothing, 12 December 2016 - 07:11 PM.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Viktor Drake, on 12 December 2016 - 07:07 PM, said:

Why do people keep harping on this over and over and over. You do realize that there has to be a "best" mech right? Not trying to troll you here but what does it matter? Also best at what, being an Assault?

Honestly I am tried of hearing about the KDK-3 or debating about how good or bad it is because there are a million threads already with deep, heated debates that go deep into detail why or why not the KDK-3 is the best mech. No need for another one.

good point, sorry Vik

[Deathlike]

The best part is I never said 100% of people said yes.

What I did say is 99% of players in comp say yes.

In the land of unicorns, the Mist Lynx is just as good as the alternatives. In this same place, KDK-3s are "like every mech".

Might as well argue LRMs are OP too.

[dario03]

El Bandito, on 12 December 2016 - 07:09 PM, said:

1. Kodiak is better chassis than the Whale due to much faster speed and high mounts. Is it the best chassis in game? It is the best Assault in game currently, that much is 100% certain.

It also achieves that speed with practically no negative trade. Even though plenty of builds could support it, Dire Wolfs have neither Endo nor Ferro. Where as the Kodiak can take Endo or even Endo and Ferro which basically gives it a free extra 5-8t. And with that weight you can go from a 300cxl to a 340cxl or 360cxl which greatly increases your speed in all ways. The bigger engine also gives you 2-3 extra engine heatsink slots which makes it even easier to fit the Endo and Ferro in since you can save 6 slots by moving 3cdhs to the engine.

The Kodiak is practically a 108t Dire Wolf with much better mounts and speed.

Edited by dario03, 12 December 2016 - 07:37 PM.

[HauptmanT]

I dont love my KDK-3. I like the Kodiak 1 and Spirit Bear better. But my aim sucks.

I'm a T4 scrub and my most DMG match was in a Kodiak (1), so yes there is something about them that is just... better.

[dario03]

LordNothing, on 12 December 2016 - 07:11 PM, said:

i think its overrated personally. it seems to have survived many nerfs, mostly because of its hardpoints and their placement and the fact that its a battlemech, but its still a magnet for all sorts of weaponry. play any other assault, and you can just kind of stand next to the kodiak and fight with impunity until the bear explodes.

That just further proves how powerful it is.

[BLOOD WOLF]

HauptmanT, on 12 December 2016 - 07:30 PM, said:

I dont love my KDK-3. I like the Kodiak 1 and Spirit Bear better. But my aim sucks.

I'm a T4 scrub and my most DMG match was in a Kodiak (1), so yes there is something about them that is just... better.

I concur, I have seen the KD-3 and to be honest, as long as I get a mean 700+ in my spirit bear for damage, I would rather stick with that.

[LordNothing]

dario03, on 12 December 2016 - 07:38 PM, said:

That just further proves how powerful it is.

perception is a powerful thing.

[The6thMessenger]

Personally i think the HBK-IIC-A is the best mech, high mounts, good for PPC poking and poptarting with JJs, faster than just most mechs -- it's an even more meta-tryhard mech. Screw Kodiaks, i can 1v1 your dakka bear with an HBK-IIC-A.*

* on certain maps with good cover. Zero cover means zero percent win.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 12 December 2016 - 07:48 PM.

[Y E O N N E]

But can you 1v1 the PokeBear with your HBK-IIC? That's what you'd really be contending with.

[dario03]

LordNothing, on 12 December 2016 - 07:45 PM, said:

perception is a powerful thing.

Especially when backed up by reality.

[The6thMessenger]

Yeonne Greene, on 12 December 2016 - 07:50 PM, said:

But can you 1v1 the PokeBear with your HBK-IIC? That's what you'd really be contending with.

Probably not, but depending on the map i could get good tries. Sure pokebear will be a massive chore to do, but i do have one asset that bear doesn't have -- mobility. I'm more than happy to get close and utilize Kodiak's clumsy torso twist and speed in comparison.

Although that is in theory, i don't really know.

[NRP]

People just like to complain about stuff, rather than just shutting the hell up and playing. IMO anyway.

Edited by NRP, 12 December 2016 - 08:05 PM.

[Aiden Skye]

Best mech by the numbers maybe, but not the best mech for me. Not really a good assault pilot.

[cazidin]

Mcgral18, on 12 December 2016 - 07:09 PM, said:

They pack considerable firepower while moving quickly for their weight, without the sacrifice of durability

The twist range nerf hurt their durability some, but they pack fearsome guns



They are the best mech in the game, for their mix of speed, high mounts, and firepower.


They can carry many games, but not all can be won. Not like the SupaHunch DakkaBear of GodQuirk and 1 GH multiplier fame.
# 8 Solo Kills, 10 KMDD


As they stand, potent. Arguably not OP anymore, but still the best pick there is for almost every situation. There's a reason you see 2X Kodiaks in just about every MRBC match where they're available. Dakka or Poke, they win

Is it really a matter of the Kodiak simply being a good all around chassis, or the fact that none of the other assaults on either side can equal it? The Dire Wolf is too slow and both it and the Atlas have generally low mounts, the Warhawk is arguably tonnage and crit space limited, Battlemasters suffer from poor torso twist, Victors exist, etc.

[The6thMessenger]

cazidin, on 12 December 2016 - 08:05 PM, said:

Is it really a matter of the Kodiak simply being a good all around chassis, or the fact that none of the other assaults on either side can equal it? The Dire Wolf is too slow and both it and the Atlas have generally low mounts, the Warhawk is arguably tonnage and crit space limited, Battlemasters suffer from poor torso twist, Victors exist, etc.

The part where it's a battlemech with Clantech than an omnimech further aggravates the situation.