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#1 Besh

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 08:41 AM

Being fully aware that I am probably poking the Hornet's nest...

What is the general perception ? Do people have the "feeling" Clanners are using IS alts to skew the FW Matches in the Clan's favour ? NOTE: I am not saying ALL Clanners . Its just, from over a decade of MMO experience...I know a bit about what people will do without hesitation for themselves, or their Side to win .

So....?

#2 Bombast

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 08:44 AM

Wait, are you insinuating that Clanners are making Inner Sphere accounts to sabotage the enemy team, either through intentionally under performing or AFKing?

Oh, this is going to be a fun thread.

#3 Besh

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 08:44 AM

View PostBombast, on 21 December 2016 - 08:44 AM, said:

Wait, are you insinuating that Clanners are making Inner Sphere accounts to sabotage the enemy team, either through intentionally under performing or AFKing?

Oh, this is going to be a fun thread.


Mhm...

Edited by Besh, 21 December 2016 - 08:45 AM.


#4 Lukoi Banacek

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 08:46 AM

I think that would be a huge waste of time, especially considering how casually most IS seem to approach their builds, their dropdecs and their play styles in FP. Why bother, when you can just grab a group of unit mates and crush casuals? No need to cheat, no sensation of panic that you have to do something desperate and underhanded like that. No sense of urgency. And soloist Clanners arent going to bother. If they were that invested in the outcome, they would likely already be in a unit.


#5 RestosIII

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 08:48 AM

View PostBombast, on 21 December 2016 - 08:44 AM, said:

Oh, this is going to be a fun thread.


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I can't wait.

#6 Spheroid

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 08:48 AM

Alt accounts are simply alt accounts. End of discussion.

#7 The Unstoppable Puggernaut

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 09:02 AM

It's like cheating. No one expects anyone to be lame enough to do it but...

We always get proven wrong.

I remember a few months playing as clans, where we had a number of afker's some were repeating. There's nothing you can do to stop it. Reporting it doens't seem to work.

The game seems very stable to me so I cannot see how it's anything asides sabotage or some form of lame farming. I hope PGI can track these stats and find the worst offenders quickly and warn them.

Anyways I personally don't have one but someone came up with the idea of joining a low tier and using lore builds. I wish I could do that would my regular account some how but hey.

#8 jss78

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 09:12 AM

I've sometimes wondered about this, like that scouting game where Davion pugs came at us with Trial Trebuchet lurm boats.

But really I just don't see anyone spending his spare time doing this. I guess we all really enjoy shooting some robits, and depending on how competitive we are, lots of us also really like to be that cool guy who wins. I don't see anyone spending his spare time intentionally losing, just to see some virtual planet change hands. It's just more fun being the guy who's out there wrecking face.

Maybe I'm wrong, people do some weird sh*t on the Internet.

#9 Mystere

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 09:14 AM

I categorize this thread as being this:

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#10 TercieI

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 09:16 AM

Once upon a time some of this may have happened. I don't think anyone cares that much about CPFWhatever now.

#11 RestosIII

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 09:17 AM

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What if IS pilots are setting up bots on alt accounts to make Clans win in FW/CW a lot more than they would normally, so they can force PGI to overnerf Clans? Or the alternative of Clan players making alts and bots for them to intentionally lose and then blaming it on IS pilots making alts to do the previous option/they're just bad at the game? There are so many tinfoil hat conspiracies here we could use, that I can't keep track of all of them. It's a goldmine!

#12 Besh

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 09:18 AM

View PostMystere, on 21 December 2016 - 09:14 AM, said:

I categorize this thread as being this:

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Made me laugh :) .

Please keep in mind, I am merely asking people . Not even stating any point/Assumption myself . Just asking for the general opinion .

Wasn't there that thing some time ago where a big merc Unit was allegedly using alt accounts to get the oldStyle Invasion Matches filled with dummies so they could easily win planets ?

Just mentioning this to illustrate how far my question is NOT from what is possibly possible XD .

#13 Mystere

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 09:26 AM

View PostBesh, on 21 December 2016 - 09:18 AM, said:

Made me laugh Posted Image .

Please keep in mind, I am merely asking people . Not even stating any point/Assumption myself . Just asking for the general opinion .


I know you were just asking. But you did create an opening for such a response. Posted Image


View PostBesh, on 21 December 2016 - 09:18 AM, said:

Wasn't there that thing some time ago where a big merc Unit was allegedly using alt accounts to get the oldStyle Invasion Matches filled with dummies so they could easily win planets ?

Just mentioning this to illustrate how far my question is NOT from what is possibly possible XD .


The effort involved in doing so is just not worth the rewards -- there really aren't much of any.

But in the event that someone does do it, well, I'm just going to RP it as a scam initiated by filthy mercs to rob their client blind. <shrugs>

#14 TLBFestus

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 09:40 AM

Why would I even get an alt account? That's like taking my suckage and multiplying it by 2.

#15 JediPanther

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 09:45 AM

I might run an alt in swtor because that does give me a new way of playing , a whole new story line and new companions with their side stories but here all mechs are basically the same since we have just three weapon types of ballistics,lasers and missiles. Just the location and minor differences make them different unless you go by weight class where a light no way in heck plays like an assault.

I don't see the point of an alt here except for those people that want to focus on just is or clan mechs. I can have both on one account and switch between them whenever I want. It also makes it easier for when I get some thing like those uber expensive modules for gxp(until squrik tree patch) I don't look for radar derp only to remember its on another account and not the one I'm using.

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 09:48 AM

The only real issue I have with alts is in the case where one uses it to buff their point of view on the forum here. Not even sure how often or even if that does happen, but I wouldn't be surprised.

That and on the flipside, pissed that I didn't think to mak an alt myself, for my hoard of InnerSphere pink slips. Just one account both sides. Do wish I could play on IS for fw sometimes.

Edited by JackalBeast, 21 December 2016 - 09:49 AM.


#17 Tordin

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 09:49 AM

Tops 2 accounts and refund EVERYTHING of content brought/ gotten for free on the third, fourth etc, somehow to the first two accounts you created.
Also limit the amount of merc units (at least the biggest ones) to avoid having the situation of all biggest merc units joining just one side to murder pugs for fun and kinda free gains.

#18 C E Dwyer

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 10:14 AM

This is an old one. I'm sure there are a few people left that remember fingers being pointed at certain clan doggy units for this.

Of course it wasn't proven, just as this won't be, even if it happens to be true, or people are just trying to find excuses

Edited by Cathy, 21 December 2016 - 10:14 AM.


#19 Appogee

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 10:15 AM

Clanners don't need to use such tricks to win.

We just use superior Mechs.

Actual IS PUGs, with their propensity for LRMs and Flamers and other whacky builds, do the rest.

#20 DoctorDetroit

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 10:32 AM

For a long time now I have suspected that pug players on my team that do less than 500 dmg are faux alt accounts meant to rig the game for the otherside. Because i cannot imagine someone actually being bad enough to account for these horrendously terrible pug dmg numbers.





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