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[Sidra]

Gorith, on 19 July 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

As stated star wars came first but in a straight vehicular battle I think battlemechs would decimate the at line of walkers. With that said I think 40k titans would eat them both.

WE SHALL TAKE THEIR METAL BOXES!

[Reoh]

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Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy a planet, or even a whole system, is insignificant next to the power of the Force.

~~ Darth Vader.

On the ground BT would kick ***, as for tie fighters... meh. Counter is evenly matched with Aerospace. Aerospace may even be tougher as they don't blow up from just one direct hit. But in SW they can reproduce space fleets, while in the BT universe the capital fleets were too irreplacable to commit (until the clan's came). SW fleets also had shielding that could completely negate weapon fire not of significant enough firepower so unless a complete moron designed the power core to be open and attackable from the hangar deck (*coughBScough*). The SW capital fleet also has a tacitcal advantage in that it can hyperspace right up to a target, jumpships from BT typically only used the stellar points, and even pirate points weren't closer by comparison to hyperspace. The dropships may not even make it to the planet. BTJ's would have to jump in on an undefended world and then hope to charge and jump out before a hyperspace fleet could arrive.

But if only one side had Force Users & Droids (well, astrodroids at any rate) those are a significant advantage. Battle Meditation anyone?

[NFKilljoy]

star wars came first as did thier MMO...........it is not that good by the way. More WOW I lasted 1 month.......

[Sidra]

Reoh, on 19 July 2012 - 06:54 PM, said:

On the ground BT would kick ***, as for tie fighters... meh. Counter is evenly matched with Aerospace. Aerospace may even be tougher as they don't blow up from just one direct hit. But in SW they can reproduce space fleets, while in the BT universe the capital fleets were too irreplacable to commit (until the clan's came). SW fleets also had shielding that could completely negate weapon fire not of significant enough firepower so unless a complete moron designed the power core to be open and attackable from the hangar deck (*coughBScough*). The SW capital fleet also has a tacitcal advantage in that it can hyperspace right up to a target, jumpships from BT typically only used the stellar points, and even pirate points weren't closer by comparison to hyperspace. The dropships may not even make it to the planet. BTJ's would have to jump in on an undefended world and then hope to charge and jump out before a hyperspace fleet could arrive.

But if only one side had Force Users & Droids (well, astrodroids at any rate) those are a significant advantage. Battle Meditation anyone?

Yeah I was avoiding bringing up the force for most battle, Oh hai thats a nice mech you have ima just use my force real quick >.> (it's like cheat codes, for life! )

[Hexenhammer]

[Sidra]

Hexenhammer, on 19 July 2012 - 07:01 PM, said:

my ..mind..just...AHHHHH *esplodes*

[Cerdroth]

oh, and star wars has infantry size weapons who oneshot battlemechs. ion cannons. the are "capable of overloading an enemy starships systems and fusing mechanical components". would do nasty things to the rather electromechanical battlemechs. melting the gyro, shut down the fusion core, blow the ammo, etc...
star wars the essential guide to vehicles and vessels.

[BFett]

Hey there SW and BT fans, I have to say that the AT-ST would not stand a chance in a fight with a battle mech in the medium weight class or above. The AT-AT has 2 heavy laser cannons and 2 medium blasters. The laser cannons have a range of 8 km up to 80 km and are usually mounted on star fighters (The X-wing has 4 laser cannons). Blasters are the most common weapon in the Star Wars universe, and are usually used as personal side arms. Blasters have a range of 30 to 120 meters.

If the Galactic Empire were to enter the Battle Tech universe and war broke out I imagine that there would be a stand still. The Empire would be able to control the space out side of many planets and move troops far faster than Jump Ships could. The only thing that would hold the Empire at bay would be the ground battles.

I do have a question though, do planets in the battle tech universe have planetary shields that prevent orbital strikes like the ones in Star Wars?

[Gingo]

Sidra, on 19 July 2012 - 06:25 PM, said:

Now THAT would be a battle, SW vs 40K xD I would be tough to say what one

Nope. Not in the least.
The Imperium (40k) has a giant size advantage, both in number and in actual troop size (dont forget, an Emperor titan carries a freaking city on its shoulders and the starships are... well... Huge doesnt even begin to describe it)

That was even proven with pages upon pages of statistics in a thread on some 40k forum. Too lazy to dig it up now.


As for the SW vs. Battletech:

SW would win. Battlemechs are way harder to replace than the empire's machinery. BT would loose simply becauuse they would be unable to get troops fast enough.


While we are at it, what would win, Battletech or 40k?

[DEHK]

relevant to topic: star wars.

Personally i think that mecha are the "in his image" version of tanks, therefore:

Leonardo DaVinci.

[Sidra]

Gingo, on 19 July 2012 - 07:18 PM, said:

Nope. Not in the least.
The Imperium (40k) has a giant size advantage, both in number and in actual troop size (dont forget, an Emperor titan carries a freaking city on its shoulders and the starships are... well... Huge doesnt even begin to describe it)

That was even proven with pages upon pages of statistics in a thread on some 40k forum. Too lazy to dig it up now.


As for the SW vs. Battletech:

SW would win. Battlemechs are way harder to replace than the empire's machinery. BT would loose simply becauuse they would be unable to get troops fast enough.


While we are at it, what would win, Battletech or 40k?

I just mean hard because the Space Fleet, Ground wise 40K wins in everything, plain and simple. But in space you do have the shield advantage (though some of those ships in 40K are as big as the eclipse). That is my only reason for being alightly confused on it. And why even bring up 40K vs BT XD It's like a M1 Abram vs a go cart

[Lettuce Prey]

walking battle machines;

war of the worlds was first.

http://en.wikipedia....r_of_the_Worlds

for a copy of the book

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/36

for a copy of the audio book in mp3 files

http://librivox.org/...o-by-h-g-wells/

Edited by Lettuce Prey, 19 July 2012 - 07:24 PM.

[Vergoth]

You cannot compair starwars and Battletech, silly goose! Now Starwars Vs Star Trek (as much as this pains me to say this) Star Trek would pwn the crap out of Starwars tech

[Sidra]

Vergoth, on 19 July 2012 - 07:41 PM, said:

You cannot compair starwars and Battletech, silly goose! Now Starwars Vs Star Trek (as much as this pains me to say this) Star Trek would pwn the crap out of Starwars tech

I find your lack of faith disturbing >.> But really, that topic will go on for ages, and I am stuck in the middle because I love both sides and well, it is hard to make up my mind on it

[Deaths Charger]

i'd say neither cause it boils down to this who the fug has better tactics and skills plain an simple

[Todd Lee]

Jedi chop legs off Mech, the end.

[Imagine Dragons]

Wait a second, a LeviII is barely a match for an ISD... ISD is already longer by 60%

Also about SW vs ST... it can't really work, I mean for the most part, both universes have very different ship designs and doctrines.

In SW, ships fight like galleons with those 50 cannon ball shooting cannons at each other...

In ST ships fight with practically omni-directional firing arcs and are ridiculously more agile than most other SciFi ships... at least thats the impression made...

Edited by XenomorphZZ, 19 July 2012 - 08:27 PM.

[DEHK]

Sidra, on 19 July 2012 - 07:45 PM, said:

I find your lack of faith disturbing >.> But really, that topic will go on for ages, and I am stuck in the middle because I love both sides and well, it is hard to make up my mind on it

Trek, because of reasons...

[DEHK]

Lettuce Prey, on 19 July 2012 - 07:22 PM, said:

walking battle machines;

war of the worlds was first.

http://en.wikipedia....r_of_the_Worlds

for a copy of the book

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/36

for a copy of the audio book in mp3 files

http://librivox.org/...o-by-h-g-wells/

"walking war machines"....

orwell beats it dude, as far as fiction writers go.

However I am absolutely certain that there is some Japanese dude somewhere drawing mecha well before Orwell wrote about his oliphants..

EDIT: its vernes; my bad. dunno where i got orwell from. i should use wiki more often, stupid me using my memory.

Edited by DEHK, 19 July 2012 - 10:58 PM.

[Ancient Demise]

Then come Dune, uses an obliterator on earth and kills all of us. Thus ending another pointless thread.