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[Weepy Wanebow]

RoadblockXL, on 27 December 2016 - 09:01 AM, said:

You should probably put a mark next to mechs that carry weapons that aren't available in game.

For example, all the variants for the Naga carry Arrow IV Artillery and I think there is an IS mech that's dedicated to carrying Arrow IVs too but I don't remember the name.

Of course they could use all non-canon variants without Arrow IVs but then you have to ask the philosophical question of "Is a Naga without Arrow IVs truly a Naga?".

I actually thought about that but then I was hit with a giant "Meh" stick and didn't feel like it and after spending the time it took me to compile the list the random "I'm gonna do this because..." feeling died a sudden death and was replaced with a "time to get lucky" because a text I was waiting for came through and you know...priorities....the desire to go back and make that addition has not occured although the though has crossed my mind.

[Snowbluff]

RestosIII, on 27 December 2016 - 01:54 AM, said:

This is why I don't invite you to go places with me.

Alan Davion, on 27 December 2016 - 02:31 AM, said:

What the hell anime is that from?

RestosIII, on 27 December 2016 - 02:35 AM, said:

Sword Art Online, aka that dumpster fire anime that is a guilty pleasure of mine, but I refuse to ever watch again because holy **** it's bad.

Yep, it's horrible. I have seen it, it's bad. So very bad.

ALso, I agree that Log Horizon does it better.

[Battlemaster56]

Snowbluff, on 27 December 2016 - 11:19 AM, said:

Yep, it's horrible. I have seen it, it's bad. So very bad.

ALso, I agree that Log Horizon does it better.

I watched like couple episodes but I knew it was bad when it was first announced, too much hype then I just start watching a crap ton of romance and other anime like ergo proxy and so crazy sci fi mind boggling stuff.

[1453 R]

SAO had its moments, but ended up bogged down in Pukey Anime Messiah land where its main protagonist is basically one step down from Jesus for no real reason and nothing/no one in the show can accomplish anything without Kirito-sempai basically doing it for them. Blegh. Also f*** S1.2 forever. That whole Rescue Mission arc just completely ruined what had otherwise been a passable show.

Log Horizon I want more of, though. That show is so much better than SAO and doesn't get nearly enough props, even if it was starting to get a little weird at the end of its last season. Definitely the proper successor to .hack// we all wanted but did not get in SAO.

[Battlemaster56]

Log Horizon Im gonna put on my watch list seeing how you guys giving it good props to it.

[Zacharias McLeod]

RoadblockXL, on 27 December 2016 - 09:01 AM, said:

You should probably put a mark next to mechs that carry weapons that aren't available in game.

For example, all the variants for the Naga carry Arrow IV Artillery and I think there is an IS mech that's dedicated to carrying Arrow IVs too but I don't remember the name.

Of course they could use all non-canon variants without Arrow IVs but then you have to ask the philosophical question of "Is a Naga without Arrow IVs truly a Naga?".

The IS variant of the Naga is the O-Bakemono.

http://www.sarna.net...ono#Description

[Battlemaster56]

Zacharias McLeod, on 27 December 2016 - 01:06 PM, said:

The IS variant of the Naga is the O-Bakemono.

http://www.sarna.net...ono#Description

The thing look ugly as hell not to hate on it but hell, that thing is just ugly...

[LT. HARDCASE]

TL;DR = Inner Sphere list is packed with gahbage, while the Clan list is packed with top shelf meta cheese

[CK16]

LT. HARDCASE, on 27 December 2016 - 03:11 PM, said:

TL;DR = Inner Sphere list is packed with gahbage, while the Clan list is packed with top shelf meta cheese

indeed, I feel there are few good picks left for each side, but there is no need to get all of them, even a majority of them.

-Clan side-
-I think it is vital we get all 3053 Omni mechs being as these would be far more common than battlemechs, specially in the Innersphere
-Battlemechs, Stone Rhino, Bane, and Grizzly are what I feel are major needed ones these would be common seen among CLans and must be the first options.
- IIC's Warhammer and Rifleman are a must, locust IIC is not to far behind.

IS wise? More assaults and Lights are welcome and needed. We are swamped with Mediums and Heavies, anything added here will be redundant pretty much at this point, post 3053 we get some of the Clan knock off's and responses that are not to bad (Blackhawk KU, Falconer, Hauptmann, Avatar, Sunder ect.).

Honestly I hope they move to 3060 soon, there are a lot of good and unique options from this era for both sides. Also add the IS clone weapons and a few goodies for clans (Heavy lasers and LAMS primarily)

[Battlemaster56]

CK16, on 27 December 2016 - 03:20 PM, said:

indeed, I feel there are few good picks left for each side, but there is no need to get all of them, even a majority of them.

-Clan side-
-I think it is vital we get all 3053 Omni mechs being as these would be far more common than battlemechs, specially in the Innersphere
-Battlemechs, Stone Rhino, Bane, and Grizzly are what I feel are major needed ones these would be common seen among CLans and must be the first options.
- IIC's Warhammer and Rifleman are a must, locust IIC is not to far behind.

IS wise? More assaults and Lights are welcome and needed. We are swamped with Mediums and Heavies, anything added here will be redundant pretty much at this point, post 3053 we get some of the Clan knock off's and responses that are not to bad (Blackhawk KU, Falconer, Hauptmann, Avatar, Sunder ect.).

Honestly I hope they move to 3060 soon, there are a lot of good and unique options from this era for both sides. Also add the IS clone weapons and a few goodies for clans (Heavy lasers and LAMS primarily)

You can add the Phoenix Hawk IIC Kodiak level highmonts, that's another must add.

[CK16]

Battlemaster56, on 27 December 2016 - 03:23 PM, said:

You can add the Phoenix Hawk IIC Kodiak level highmonts, that's another must add.

I dont have it as a much on my list cause to me its not a standard IIC garrison mech. It was noted as rare and only among I think Steel Vipers with in the IS. The mech just doesn't offer much I feel. I would not and do not really care to see that one added. BUT that is just my opinion, I would rather see a Grizzly over the Phoenixhawk IIC.

[LT. HARDCASE]

PGI has no inspiration to add mechs based on how common they were in the time period. They're running a business, not a lore factory.

[CK16]

LT. HARDCASE, on 27 December 2016 - 03:47 PM, said:

PGI has no inspiration to add mechs based on how common they were in the time period. They're running a business, not a lore factory.

OK, well still I feel the Phoenix Hawk IIC is honestly a joke....The varriant everyone is all excited for only has 4 ballistics slots, 6 MAYBE if it gets inflation, that is it for an assault mech (lul!). Nothing says they are high mounted either, atleast all of them. Also it's 80tons not 100. That is alot of tonnage to consider sure, but its.no where near Kodiak levels of firepower potential. Atleast not in terms of its ammunition count unless you down engine it quite a bit. Also correct if I am wrong, does the slots even allow for it after an XL engine? Just a thought, it seems good on paparr, but I feel this would be a flop imo. Warhammer IIC is a fsr better option.

Edited by CK16, 27 December 2016 - 04:09 PM.

[Battlemaster56]

CK16, on 27 December 2016 - 03:53 PM, said:

OK, well still I feel the Phoenix Hawk IIC is honestly a joke....The varriant everyone is all excited for only has 4 ballistics slots, 6 MAYBE if it gets inflation, that is it for an assault mech (lul!). Nothing says they are high mounted either, atleast all of them. Also it's 80tons not 100. That is alot of tonnage to consider sure, but its.no where near Kodiak levels of firepower potential. Atleast not in terms of its ammunition count unless you down engine it quite a bit. Also correct if I am wrong, does the slots even allow for it after an XL engine? Just a thought, it seems good on paparr, but I feel this would be a flop imo. Warhammer IIC is a fsr better option.

The Phawk IIC should be able to fit 2 UAC10's on to it's side torsos easily as any clan mech should while using and XL since it only take 4 slots and enough to put atleast 2-3 tons of ammo in the same slot. Also you could shave off some armor off the arms for extra tons for ammo, also could drop the XL400 to a 360-375 for the extra space and keep the speed advantage.

While the Warhammer IIC will be the superior choice compare to the PHawk IIC and maybe the MAD IIC, in most ways, I do want to point out that thing will have a huge problem of easy to Isolate side torsos just like hawk, or a bulging CT depending on which art source you take from. But this is my simple opinon on the Warhammer IIC since pretty much it gonna be similar in many ways as the original but 10 tons bigger.

[SuperFunkTron]

Without a doubt, the Gunslinger looks like the IS assault they need to kick some life back into IS players. The double gauss with 4ml and 2mpl on its standard build would give them a hell of a kick to help fight off the clanners.

On the Clan side, aside from the need for a 20 tonner like the piranha or fire moth, something lie the phantom or grendel would be nice additions in that light medium range of mechs. The clans are really missing better options for 60 tonners unfortunately.

[CK16]

SuperFunkTron, on 27 December 2016 - 04:51 PM, said:

Without a doubt, the Gunslinger looks like the IS assault they need to kick some life back into IS players. The double gauss with 4ml and 2mpl on its standard build would give them a hell of a kick to help fight off the clanners.

On the Clan side, aside from the need for a 20 tonner like the piranha or fire moth, something lie the phantom or grendel would be nice additions in that light medium range of mechs. The clans are really missing better options for 60 tonners unfortunately.

You did not just insult the Mad Dog did you now? Bra, the thing packs hella punch for its weight....Never underestimate a Mad Dog, that is about the time they take a torso off you with a nice SRM volley or make you pay with never ending LRMS!

Really, Mad Dog is a great 60 tonner...

[SuperFunkTron]

CK16, on 27 December 2016 - 05:13 PM, said:

You did not just insult the Mad Dog did you now? Bra, the thing packs hella punch for its weight....Never underestimate a Mad Dog, that is about the time they take a torso off you with a nice SRM volley or make you pay with never ending LRMS!

Really, Mad Dog is a great 60 tonner...

Don't get me wrong. It is a solid mech with some great diversity, but it'd be nice to have another option at that weight level, something tankier

[Y E O N N E]

SuperFunkTron, on 27 December 2016 - 05:58 PM, said:

Don't get me wrong. It is a solid mech with some great diversity, but it'd be nice to have another option at that weight level, something tankier

> 60 tons
> tanky

I mean, the Rifleman is 60 tons and spreads damage very well, but "tanky" is not how I would describe it, even on a STD engine.

[RestosIII]

Yeonne Greene, on 27 December 2016 - 06:01 PM, said:

> 60 tons
> tanky

I mean, the Rifleman is 60 tons and spreads damage very well, but "tanky" is not how I would describe it, even on a STD engine.

And the Mad Dog can't claim it has the best of hitboxes, that's for sure.

[Y E O N N E]

RestosIII, on 27 December 2016 - 06:02 PM, said:

And the Mad Dog can't claim it has the best of hitboxes, that's for sure.

Nope, pretty much identical to the Archer, but with a cockpit in a better spot. So easy to dissect.