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[Doblefilo]

Description: mech does not stops moving, even if i press x
Location: global
Reproduction Rate: 70% or more
Steps to Reproduce: after purchasing the spirit bear wich can equip masc, i found out that the combo keys left alt (masc default key)+ shift (arm unlock key) + wa or left alt + shift + wd or left alt + shift + as or left alt + shift + sd makes the mech keep moving in the directions you inputed
video evidence: https://youtu.be/ooNZKbczN6k

edit: i am using keyboard + mouse had a joystick plugged, unplugged it and could still replicate the bug
os: win 7
mother: am3x asus m5a97 - LE R2.0
mem: 8gb ddr3 1866 mhz hyperx fury
hdd: 1tb sata3
GPU: ati radeon R9 280x GD5 3GB vaporx -sapphire
kernel: FX 8x bulldozer 8350 am3x
generic keyboard
triton warrior series mouse
tested in a non masc equipped mech and could still replicate it

Edited by Doblefilo, 27 December 2016 - 07:56 PM.

[Anachronda]

You might want to give them more information for this. Like what kind of hardware and OS version you're using, are you using keyboard and mouse or something else, etc.

[Ironwithin]

Doblefilo, on 27 December 2016 - 04:10 PM, said:

Description: mech does not stops moving, even if i press x
Location: global
Reproduction Rate: 70% or more
Steps to Reproduce: after purchasing the spirit bear wich can equip masc, i found out that the combo keys left alt (masc default key)+ shift (arm unlock key) + wa or left alt + shift + wd or left alt + shift + as or left alt + shift + sd makes the mech keep moving in the directions you inputed
video evidence: https://youtu.be/ooNZKbczN6k

Unplug any flightsticks, controllers, touchpads, pedals, etc. you are not using to play the game and see if it stops.

[Doblefilo]

i am using keyboard + mouse had a joystick plugged, unplugged it and could still replicate the bug
os: win 7
mother: am3x asus m5a97 - LE R2.0
mem: 8gb ddr3 1866 mhz hyperx fury
hdd: 1tb sata3
GPU: ati radeon R9 280x GD5 3GB vaporx -sapphire
kernel: FX 8x bulldozer 8350 am3x
generic keyboard
triton warrior series mouse
edit: tested in a non masc equipped mech and could still replicate it

Edited by Doblefilo, 27 December 2016 - 07:54 PM.

[Trotil]

Yeah, I've been having the same bug with a stuck throttle on a non-MASC mech.
Usually happens when I override during an overheat shutdown to wake up faster, while holding forward or reverse.
Throttle gets stuck, hitting a button for full stop drops the throttle to zero but it ramps up again, as if I was still holding a key to accelerate.
Issue is very hard to replicate, but when it happens the whole match goes out the window since the only solution is to die quickly and move on with life.

[Fox the Apprentice]

Doblefilo, on 27 December 2016 - 07:30 PM, said:

i am using keyboard + mouse had a joystick plugged, unplugged it and could still replicate the bug
[...]
generic keyboard
triton warrior series mouse
edit: tested in a non masc equipped mech and could still replicate it

When you unplug the keyboard, does the moving stop? How about the mouse? They probably aren't at fault, but it won't hurt to check.

Edited by Fox the Apprentice, 28 December 2016 - 06:02 AM.

[Doblefilo]

Fox the Apprentice, on 28 December 2016 - 06:01 AM, said:

When you unplug the keyboard, does the moving stop? How about the mouse? They probably aren't at fault, but it won't hurt to check.

will try, but if i open the chat, it stops moving and the keys dont get spammed in the chat box
edit: tested unplugging keyboard and mice and it still kept moving

Edited by Doblefilo, 28 December 2016 - 11:06 AM.

[Sasha Volkova]

I am pretty sure that what you are experiencing is "keyboard ghosting"
It basically means that your keyboard can only register X amounts of buttons simultaneously before any more simply are ignored - hence "ghosted" away.

Alot of generic keyboards come with this and I am sure that if you google your specific keyboard aswell as "ghosting" you will be able to find out exactly how limited you are.
Some "gamer keyboards" have something called "anti-ghosting" but do not be fooled by this fancy word, the meaning behind it is simply that it allows for certain key combinations to exceed the limit but it still has a limit on how many buttons can be pressed simultaneously.

[Doblefilo]

Sasha Volkova, on 28 December 2016 - 12:11 PM, said:

I am pretty sure that what you are experiencing is "keyboard ghosting"
It basically means that your keyboard can only register X amounts of buttons simultaneously before any more simply are ignored - hence "ghosted" away.

Alot of generic keyboards come with this and I am sure that if you google your specific keyboard aswell as "ghosting" you will be able to find out exactly how limited you are.
Some "gamer keyboards" have something called "anti-ghosting" but do not be fooled by this fancy word, the meaning behind it is simply that it allows for certain key combinations to exceed the limit but it still has a limit on how many buttons can be pressed simultaneously.

i believe that when that happens, you hear a beep coming from the keyboard, also called keyboard buffer overflow, but the problem is that the keys work like if they got stuck, but i am not pressing them, its permanent and almost unfixable by striking the reverse keys (if going foward and left, reverse would be s, for backwards and d for right) combination while using the combo that triggers the bug, most of the time you just end up moving into the new directions you inputted rather than solving it

Edited by Doblefilo, 28 December 2016 - 01:17 PM.

[Fox the Apprentice]

Sasha Volkova, on 28 December 2016 - 12:11 PM, said:

I am pretty sure that what you are experiencing is "keyboard ghosting"
[...]

Doesn't sound like ghosting to me...

It honestly sounds like something is being registered as a game pad, and is "pushing" buttons. MWO would pick these up as move commands, but not as keyboard presses (which would explain the lack of chat text entry).

It may not be the joystick itself, it might be something improperly registering itself as a game pad. Lets test to eliminate the joystick as a possibility.

Doblefilo, on 27 December 2016 - 07:30 PM, said:

i am using keyboard + mouse had a joystick plugged, unplugged it and could still replicate the bug
[...]

When you say you unplugged it: did you try unplugging the joystick, restarting the PC (should be unneeded, but just to be safe, do it), and then starting MWO and replicating it without ever plugging the joystick back in?

Edited by Fox the Apprentice, 28 December 2016 - 03:36 PM.

[Doblefilo]

Fox the Apprentice, on 28 December 2016 - 03:32 PM, said:

When you say you unplugged it: did you try unplugging the joystick, restarting the PC (should be unneeded, but just to be safe, do it), and then starting MWO and replicating it without ever plugging the joystick back in?

just restarted, logged to mwo, testing ground and still could replicate the bug, anyone here can also replicate it?

Edited by Doblefilo, 28 December 2016 - 06:46 PM.

[Fox the Apprentice]

Doblefilo, on 28 December 2016 - 06:45 PM, said:

just restarted, logged to mwo, testing ground and still could replicate the bug, anyone here can also replicate it?

That joystick isn't the problem, then.

In the device manager, under "Human Interface Devices", what items are there?
In the device manager, under "Mice and other pointing devices", what items are there?
And, in the device manager, under "Keyboards", what items are there?

[Ryuken-hachi]

I have this same issue when pressing more then 4 keys at once.
I only have a keyboard and mouse plugged in.
Note: I had this issue even before this patch (actually always had it since I started playing last year november)

[Fox the Apprentice]

Earthenlady, on 29 December 2016 - 07:45 AM, said:

I have this same issue when pressing more then 4 keys at once.
I only have a keyboard and mouse plugged in.
Note: I had this issue even before this patch (actually always had it since I started playing last year november)

This sounds like keyboard ghosting. Do the keys all have to be in the same area of your keyboard?

Edited by Fox the Apprentice, 29 December 2016 - 08:06 AM.

[Fox the Apprentice]

Fox the Apprentice, on 28 December 2016 - 03:32 PM, said:

Doesn't sound like ghosting to me...

Actually, I changed my mind. It could actually be ghosting