137 replies to this topic

[Curccu]

Can I get 1 minute TLDW version of this 19 minute thingy?

[El Bandito]

I'm gonna post this as reply to every one of this "I quit cause of new skill tree" threads/posts. See ya, won't miss ya.

El Bandito, on 13 November 2015 - 05:26 AM, said:

Mhmm. Yeah, ok. Bye.

Probably Not, on 12 March 2017 - 07:05 AM, said:

Russ Bullock thinks people who spent ~700 dollars on online stompy robots are cheapskates.

Where is the source for this?

Edited by El Bandito, 12 March 2017 - 07:12 AM.

[Weeny Machine]

Heck, the skill tree is not even out.

[Mystere]

"Disgraceful" is the perfect word alright.

Edited by Mystere, 12 March 2017 - 07:22 AM.

[Jay Leon Hart]

Probably Not, on 12 March 2017 - 06:54 AM, said:

So what's the next step in your master plan for MWO?

Tuesday? NOT TUESDAY?!

*sobs*

[jjm1]

El Bandito, on 12 March 2017 - 07:09 AM, said:

Where is the source for this?

It was a joke made in the last NGNG podcast.

It obviously didn't go over so well with the people already annoyed at spending hundreds of dollars on the game only for the big mechcon reveal to be an increase to the games massive grind barrier.

Its not even about the C-bills IMO. It more or less a bottled up reaction to how sloppy PGI has been with their decisions for years now.

[oldradagast]

El Bandito, on 12 March 2017 - 07:09 AM, said:

I'm gonna post this as reply to every one of this "I quit cause of new skill tree" threads/posts. See ya, won't miss ya.

So, you can't address the problem, but are delighting in the discomfort of others. Sounds about right for the failed decision making process that's being seen more and more all over the place these days. If other people are unhappy, you're happy, because "haha, screw them." Right. Mature.

Well, you'll have plenty of time to fill the forums with stupid memes that aren't even funny while watching for a match to queue up after half the remaining MWO population leaves in the coming weeks and months. Have fun with that.

[Dirus Nigh]

Probably Not, on 12 March 2017 - 07:15 AM, said:

If you'd watch the video, you'd clearly see and hear the moment Russ Bullock drops the "cheapskate" bomb.

If you have watched the video you would have clearly heard Russ explain that he was talking about how people spend their C-Bills and not real money for MC.

If you are going to respond to some thing get it right. Stop using things as an excuse to throw self centered tantrum on the forums.

Edited by Dirus Nigh, 12 March 2017 - 07:39 AM.

[oldradagast]

Dirus Nigh, on 12 March 2017 - 07:38 AM, said:

If you have watched the video you would have clearly heard Russ explain that he was talking about how people spend their C-Bills and not real money for MC.

If you are going to respond to some thing get it right. Stop using things as an excuse to throw self centered tantrum on the forums.

So... the plan is to insult people, de-level and de-quirk our mechs, and then hold them hostage behind a grind-wall in the hopes we'll all feel bad for PGI and spend lots of money regrinding them?

Yeah... not happening. I think people got it quite right when they were offended by Russ's insult.

Edited by oldradagast, 12 March 2017 - 07:41 AM.

[Kasumi Sumika]

I much prefer and agree with Baradul opinion take on this matter.

[Dirus Nigh]

oldradagast, on 12 March 2017 - 07:40 AM, said:

So... the plan is to insult people, de-level and de-quirk our mechs, and then hold them hostage behind a grind-wall in the hopes we'll all feel bad for PGI and spend lots of money regrinding them?

Yeah... not happening. I think people got it quite right when they were offended by Russ's insult.

Your plan seems to be as hyperbolic as you can and throw a hissy fit.

He was talking about how some players do not spend the earn in game money as much as others. He was not eloquent about it, most people are not. Just chill out, and take a moment to understand what a person is trying to say, rather than jump to a conclusion because it best reinforces what ever bias you have.

[Mightyrant]

I wish the whining forum warriors would just leave already. dont like the new skill tree? Fine. Go, we don't want to hear your complaints. I have already convinced 2 new people to play after the reveal, and I have seen people on my friends list who quit returning because it seems to have fixed the balance. So my estimation is that for every one of you forum warriors who is finally leaving, we may get some decent players back! GO PGI!!!!

[Dirus Nigh]

Probably Not, on 12 March 2017 - 07:46 AM, said:

At no point should he have ever used that word. Period. Swapping modules is not being a "cheapskate". Minimizing the amount of C-bills you spend on modules (so you can spend those c-bills on mechs to get 3 to master) is not being a "cheapskate". A goodly chunk of the playerbase does not have trouble spending REAL MONEY, so implying that they have trouble spending spacebucks is just profoundly insulting.

Get over it. People use poor word choice all the time. Get off your high horse and relax.

[Talorien]

Something Tuesday says, understanding why people play the game, what makes it fun, is pretty important . . .

- Making whales feel they've lost progress, without a makeup PR exercise, is a bad idea

- Making customizers feel they will lose the freedom to try builds is a bad idea

- Making IS mech players feel their mechs will lose what makes playing them fun, is a bad idea

All these will lead to a leaking playerbase. That's just a fact, it doesn't matter what you or I think about those players and their opinions or whether they're rational or silly. Loss of players is loss of players.

[Mystere]

Probably Not, on 12 March 2017 - 07:31 AM, said:

Part of me sincerely wonders whether the whole MWO thing was/is actually an experiment to determine the point at which people will stop operating under the sunken cost fallacy. They're trying to find the magical number of nut-punches that a playerbase will endure before deciding to abandon hundreds of dollars' worth of virtual goods.

Players do not really have to literally abandon said virtual goods. They just need to stop playing long enough to make queue times horrific.

[Bud Crue]

Dirus Nigh, on 12 March 2017 - 07:38 AM, said:

If you have watched the video you would have clearly heard Russ explain that he was talking about how people spend their C-Bills and not real money for MC.

If you are going to respond to some thing get it right. Stop using things as an excuse to throw self centered tantrum on the forums.

Agreed. On the ranking scale of Russ's insults to the community over the years, the "cheapskates" crack doesn't even make the top 3. I find the legendary "you're on an island" quote to be superior, and nothing beats the April town hall of last year with the whole "people should stop telling us how to make the game better, we know best" soliloquy. The top middle finger to the community line is from that same townhall where he said "you should be thanking me for making the game". That one is my personal favorite. Just the whole vibe was great. Lets also not forget past townhalls where Russ was drunk. Nothing says I respect my customers and community more than repeatedly holding PR events where you get drunk.

Yeah, people need to cut poor Russ a break.

[Mystere]

Dirus Nigh, on 12 March 2017 - 07:46 AM, said:

Your plan seems to be as hyperbolic as you can and throw a hissy fit.

He was talking about how some players do not spend the earn in game money as much as others. He was not eloquent about it, most people are not. Just chill out, and take a moment to understand what a person is trying to say, rather than jump to a conclusion because it best reinforces what ever bias you have.

Are you saying Russ was just doing a Donald, that he really did not mean what he said?

God Bless 'Murika! And may Canada join the Union!

Edited by Mystere, 12 March 2017 - 07:56 AM.

[oldradagast]

Dirus Nigh, on 12 March 2017 - 07:46 AM, said:

Your plan seems to be as hyperbolic as you can and throw a hissy fit.

He was talking about how some players do not spend the earn in game money as much as others. He was not eloquent about it, most people are not. Just chill out, and take a moment to understand what a person is trying to say, rather than jump to a conclusion because it best reinforces what ever bias you have.

Are you new around here? Or, have you just conveniently forgotten the track record PGI and Russ have on this type of things? Sounds like you're on an island and should be thanking Russ every day for creating this glorious, perfect game that only he understands and can balance.

As for bashing "my plan," no... what I stated is EXACTLY what's happening. Feel free to pretend it's not if that offers you any consulation.

Edited by oldradagast, 12 March 2017 - 08:01 AM.

[Dirus Nigh]

To all the responded to me. I just got ******* sick and tired of the self righteous ******** from players who would rather through a temper tantrum on the forums than just finding some thing else to do. You are not being constructive, you are not adding any thing to the community on the forums. If you dont like MWO, PGI, or the devs that much, just go and find some thing else to do.

[Johnny Z]

EVERYONE REMAIN CALM.

Please maintain a calm factor of 5 or greater.

If your calm factor falls below 5, please takes steps to raise your calm factor.

Thanks you, this has been a calm factor alert announcement.

Edited by Johnny Z, 12 March 2017 - 08:04 AM.