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[Mcgral18]

Mcgral18, on 13 January 2017 - 10:37 AM, said:

I've straight up FACE TANKED a Mad2C in my Viper, of all things
Don't think he even got 10% off me.



Potato Land is a strange place

I stand corrected, he got exactly 20% off me



Worth it

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Gas Guzzler, on 13 January 2017 - 10:43 AM, said:

Its still good at 2x ER PPC poptarting, the HBK-IIC is just better.

I've never liked it in that role
12 ERSLs all the way (my first excellent match ever was in one of those. 1300 damage, 9 kills)

Does the SadCat do PPCs better than the Nova as well?

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TercieI, on 13 January 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

It's not as good at it as the HBK is but it can still put two up high in its torsos. Same speed and hops as the NVA. I admit I haven't run the NVA with PPCs lately, but the required clearance alone would make me favor the HMN.

I haven't run a Huntsman.. I just like the Nova's PPC quirks for sustainability. It won't be better than the Summoner because of hardpoints, but it's surely better than the awful Scat that's was used much earlier in this discussion.

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Mcgral18, on 13 January 2017 - 10:53 AM, said:

Does the SadCat do PPCs better than the Nova as well?

No, that heat dissipation still hurts it vs the Nova. It goes HBK-IIC-A > HMN > NVA >>> SHC
Really the separation in power between the HBK-IIC, HMN, and NVA is pretty small for 2 ERPPCs.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 13 January 2017 - 10:55 AM.

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Gas Guzzler, on 13 January 2017 - 10:43 AM, said:

Its still good at 2x ER PPC poptarting, the HBK-IIC is just better.

TercieI, on 13 January 2017 - 10:44 AM, said:

HMN too.

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 13 January 2017 - 10:54 AM, said:

No, that heat dissipation still hurts it vs the Nova. It goes HBK-IIC-A > HMN > NVA >>> SHC
Really the separation in power between the HBK-IIC, HMN, and NVA is pretty small for 2 ERPPCs.

Yep, agreed. The NVA is a good PPC poptart but that is not what got it nerfed 3 times in a row. It was that it was the highest scoring Medium during the Medium event and the small laser builds were the ones racking up those scores.

I am opposed to power creep so I am OK with negative adjustments to class leading builds. If the Summoner loses anything during the Skill Tree revamp, I hope it will be its ability to have borderline ridiculous velocity quirks for the erPPC. But then, I am opposed to velocity quirks of any kind for any weapon on a Mech to Mech basis. If there is a problem with weapon velocity then fix the weapon system IMO.

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Rampage, on 13 January 2017 - 11:14 AM, said:

Yep, agreed. The NVA is a good PPC poptart but that is not what got it nerfed 3 times in a row. It was that it was the highest scoring Medium during the Medium event and the small laser builds were the ones racking up those scores.

That's what being able to mount 10x cSPL/12x cERSL, lots of DHS, being small, and having ridiculous levels of armor quirks on top of cXL will do for you! Those were the builds pushing the score upward, not the PPC poptarts.

Star Commander Horse, on 13 January 2017 - 09:24 AM, said:

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US citizens that can get a clearance are a commodity. We can chat out of band if you've got questions

PM sent, btw.

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Quicksilver Kalasa, on 05 January 2017 - 10:35 AM, said:

Having finally tested PPC nip Summoners against other mechs, it really is no contest on what mech is the best poptart. The Summoner is hands down better than both the Timby and the Night Gyr to the point that there really isn't a good counter for it without mistakes being made by that pilot. While I would love to see these pods released so PGI can get better telemetry for just how broken it is, it really needs to be reigned in because these things are ridiculously powerful with their combination of speed, high mounts, good enough JJs, and DPS.

I would've searched for the old thread about this, but the search function for this forum sucks beyond belief.

im doing fine the same way with both ERPPCs in the left arm. but instead NERF NERF NERF why dont pgi release the pods to be available for c-bills? like the standard variants.

i'm really sick of nerf nerf nerf nerf nerf nerf nerf nerf nerf nerf crybabies.

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Corrado, on 13 January 2017 - 01:21 PM, said:

im doing fine the same way with both ERPPCs in the left arm. but instead NERF NERF NERF why dont pgi release the pods to be available for c-bills? like the standard variant.

Because that's a separate issue...?

The pay wall isn't the only problem here.

[Corrado]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 13 January 2017 - 01:28 PM, said:

Because that's a separate issue...?

The pay wall isn't the only problem here.

so now that the summoner is a heavy on par with other clan heavies, needs a nerf? i'd say, quirk the less common pods. end.

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Corrado, on 13 January 2017 - 01:30 PM, said:

so now that the summoner is a heavy on par with other clan heavies, needs a nerf?

So glad you ignored part of my OP, it isn't on par with other heavies, it is better.

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Corrado, on 13 January 2017 - 01:30 PM, said:

so now that the summoner is a heavy on par with other clan heavies, needs a nerf? i'd say, quirk the less common pods. end.

I don't know, I wish my timber wolf could mount 2 cERPPCs, 6 jumpjets, have fairly decent structure bonus quirks, and great offensive quirks for cERPPCs ranging from velocity to energy range with higher mounts and better hitboxes.

But that might be OP which is exactly the point of this thread

Edited by Snazzy Dragon, 13 January 2017 - 01:46 PM.

[Corrado]

wow ok... i'd take a ppc ******* summoner over 6UAC2 / 4UAC5 / 3UAC10 / 2gauss+erppc gyrs all day. sure. bah...

Edited by Corrado, 13 January 2017 - 01:53 PM.

[Mcgral18]

Corrado, on 13 January 2017 - 01:53 PM, said:

wow ok... i'd take a ppc ******* summoner over 6UAC2 / 4UAC5 / 3UAC10 / 2gauss+erppc gyrs all day. sure. bah...

On Alpine?



Caustic, the Gyr 'cause dat heat

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Snazzy Dragon, on 13 January 2017 - 01:43 PM, said:

I don't know, I wish my timber wolf could mount 2 cERPPCs, 6 jumpjets, have fairly decent structure bonus quirks, and great offensive quirks for cERPPCs ranging from velocity to energy range with higher mounts and better hitboxes.

But that might be OP which is exactly the point of this thread

Don't forget the god-tier mobility quirks.

[Corrado]

Mcgral18, on 13 January 2017 - 02:59 PM, said:

On Alpine?



Caustic, the Gyr 'cause dat heat

was sarcasm. i'd never take the summoner over the gyr. in any map, not even in alpine or polar. cause the gyr is a better poptart with 40PPFLD vs the 2xCERPPC of the summoner. and i take the summoner off for a ride very often. yes they have almost the same DPS, but one does shoot for 40, the other for 20.

all this comedy about the loyalty summoner being the best heavy is just silly.

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Corrado, on 13 January 2017 - 04:20 PM, said:

cause the gyr is a better poptart with 40PPFLD vs the 2xCERPPC of the summoner.

Then you are a fool who doesn't know any better.

[Snazzy Dragon]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 13 January 2017 - 04:49 PM, said:

Then you are a fool who doesn't know any better.

Or he doesn't understand how geometry and mount differences work on a poptart

By the time a night gyr clears fully on a jump people have seen it and either hidden or lined up a good shot.

Summoner just has to expose those nips a little- far less of the mech has to clear and there is less reaction time to line the shot up or take cover

Hitbox and geometry differences are also in favor of the summoner. The summoner spreads damage at range more naturally but the night gyr's massive side torsos will probably catch most or all of the return fire.

Then there is the matter of speed differences and quirks-- but I've said enough, I think.

Night gyr poptart is superior for seal clubbing to the summoner poptart but the summoner poptart wins out in comp.

[General Solo]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 13 January 2017 - 01:40 PM, said:

So glad you ignored part of my OP, it isn't on par with other heavies, it is better.

All I hear is a bunch of whiney COMP PLAYAS
The same bunch of guys over and over and over again in this and other whiney posts
OP at HIGH LEVEL PLAY
I hear its restricted in comp

So whats the problem

posting 5000000000000 times don't make you right

If your 1% adapt or is whining how you adapt

Get Guid

Go ahead bring up my stats and assassinate my video game character

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA, what a joke

PGI nothing to see here, move along

Edited by OZHomerOZ, 13 January 2017 - 10:22 PM.

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OZHomerOZ, on 13 January 2017 - 10:13 PM, said:

Go ahead bring up my stats and assassinate my video game character

I don't need to because that's all your post is, character assassination, it has no real argumentative substance.

[General Solo]

Your projecting
rite back at ya

"I agree with me or I will Troll you" is all I'm seeing.

Your opinion is well known, you have posted often enough.
How about leave some hard disk space for other opinions

Edited by OZHomerOZ, 13 January 2017 - 11:37 PM.

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OZHomerOZ, on 13 January 2017 - 11:34 PM, said:

Your projecting

No, your post had no argument other than you just saying I'm wrong. There was no proof as to why I was wrong other than character assassination. If you want to be yet another BLOOD WOLF, that's fine by me.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 13 January 2017 - 11:49 PM.