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[Reza Malin]

Hey guys, just wondering how the huntsman is?

I am thinking about getting it as an alternative to the nova, but want to see what some opinions of it from some owners are first.

[Pariah Devalis]

Reza Malin, on 04 January 2017 - 04:59 PM, said:

Hey guys, just wondering how the huntsman is?

I am thinking about getting it as an alternative to the nova, but want to see what some opinions of it from some owners are first.

Love it. It is exactly the mech I wanted. Basically, it can SRM/LRM better than any other Clan medium mech, it can ballistic nearly as well as the Hunchback IIC, and can laser almost as well as the Stormcrow, but cannot small laser boat as well as the Nova. It can mix-build similarly to the Stormcrow. Trades the Crow's speed for jump jets and dashing good looks that few mechs can match.

The 5 jump jets on it provide fairly effective flight, too! They are not wasted tonnage whatsoever. It gets some solid ups!

In public drops, 2x UAC10 2x ERSLas murders, 4x ERMLas and Gauss is a solid reliable workhorse, 6x MPlas AMS AP TC1 works wonders, and 2x ERPPC poptart with a TC is highly effective. In scouting, 4x ASRM6 4-5x SPLas is a wrecking ball.

The only downsides to the mech involve its CT being fairly large, and it being slightly sluggish when it comes to handling. Once fully elited, the mech is an extremely reliable platform, however, and, in direct conflict with how easy it is to isolate the CT, it can armor roll in ways that absolutely shame the Stormcrow and Hunchback IIC. Those arms can soak a ridiculous amount of damage. I've won games at 19% HP in the thing a couple times....

Example of its stupidly good armor soaking in progress: https://youtu.be/UfnSA7IjWvk?t=5m52s

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 04 January 2017 - 05:13 PM.

[Tarl Cabot]

Grasshopper,

The Huntsman, aka Nobori-nin (banner-bearer), is an excellent medium mech!! I leveled all of them up using stock omnipods with only one being cantankerous. I would take the Huntsman over the Stormcrow every time. It felt like I was piloting the IS version of a souped up Shadow Hawk with Clan tech.

Sayonara (bows)

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 04 January 2017 - 05:11 PM.

[Nyte Wolf]

good mech but i think the hunchback iic can do everything better except srm boat. IMO

[Wicket Warrior]

I love it! As Pariah stated, it has great mixed builds (my fav is 5x SRM/1x ERML/2x MPL) and does have a weird sluggish feeling when first starting out, but that does go away soon afterwards. This was basically the first clan mech that interested me in putting real effort to try them out. It is also the first medium I enjoyed and now has me playing that weight class the most since its release (currently going backwards with mastering the hunchback series).

[Snazzy Dragon]

It's no alternative to the nova.

Your tonnage available is high but your available slots are very limited. Many of your builds will be HOT.

That said, it is a fun little mech to play and I simply adore the way it feels-- very smooth for 80+ kph, feels more like a comfortable cruise of doom.

[Reza Malin]

Tarl Cabot, on 04 January 2017 - 05:10 PM, said:

It felt like I was piloting the IS version of a souped up Shadow Hawk with Clan tech.

This here is what got me. I love the shadow hawk and the Grey Death is a beast.

Thanks for all your input guys its what i wanted to hear, sounds great. I will be acquiring one ASAP.

Though i love the nova and its large damage output for its weight, i feel it is a one trick pony. With the huntsman i will have more options.

Edited by Reza Malin, 04 January 2017 - 05:32 PM.

[Clownwarlord]

Huntsman is a clan version of the griffon at 50 tons without the ECM. Get the hero and all the variants and then you get a range from high ballistic mounts, high energy mounts, and all the way to missile boat fun goodness.

My favorite clan mechs of late are Huntsman and my Executioners.

[Idealsuspect]

Nyte Wolf, on 04 January 2017 - 05:17 PM, said:

good mech but i think the hunchback iic can do everything better except srm boat. IMO

Exactly.

[El Bandito]

As long as you are careful with your positioning, the Huntsman is an excellent Medium mech. Like many Clan mechs, it can dish out far more damage than it can take.

[Hit the Deck]

I'm so waiting for this to be released for C-Bills.

I mainly like how it looks.

[Pariah Devalis]

Hit the Deck, on 04 January 2017 - 06:47 PM, said:

I'm so waiting for this to be released for C-Bills.

I mainly like how it looks.

The reinforcement omnipods help a bit, too. Want to snag some extras once it goes for C-Bills, and you can cludge a semi-Pakhet with the P arms and the 4x side torso energy hardpoints. Not the optimal placements, but it suffices. 72 alpha is 72 alpha.

[Mystere]

Reza Malin, on 04 January 2017 - 04:59 PM, said:

Hey guys, just wondering how the huntsman is?

I am thinking about getting it as an alternative to the nova, but want to see what some opinions of it from some owners are first.

Considering I had loads of fun running my Huntsman during the "Hunt the Huntsman" (or whatever it was called) challenge, I say it's decent enough.

[Hit the Deck]

Pariah Devalis, on 04 January 2017 - 06:50 PM, said:

The reinforcement omnipods help a bit, too. Want to snag some extras once it goes for C-Bills, and you can cludge a semi-Pakhet with the P arms and the 4x side torso energy hardpoints. Not the optimal placements, but it suffices. 72 alpha is 72 alpha.

Yeah, true. I tried bulding a laser-SRMs HMN on Smurphy and ideally it would use the Hero pods.

[Pariah Devalis]

Hit the Deck, on 04 January 2017 - 07:01 PM, said:

Yeah, true. I tried bulding a laser-SRMs HMN on Smurphy and ideally it would use the Hero pods.

The clustering of the A-SRM-6's when placed in both torsos are downright lewd. You can opt for a slightly too hot 5x SPLas 4x ASRM6 setup for a blistering 78 point alpha on a 50 ton mech, or toss out one of the SPlas for a still disgusting 72 alpha with higher heat efficiency.



In scouting mode, this mech hits so hard, if the enemy medium's front CT armor is orange, you might as well tear it in half by going right through its chest with a single alpha and KOing it so hard its grand-Mackie feels it.

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 04 January 2017 - 07:06 PM.

[Davegt27]

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Hey guys, just wondering how the huntsman is?

I am thinking about getting it as an alternative to the nova, but want to see what some opinions of it from some owners are first.

trash wait for c-bills

you notice you hardly see them in game even though a lot of people bought them with real money
and you hardly see them in FP

turn rate is very slow

[Bombast]

The Huntsman's a pretty nice medium, but does have a niche - It's a pop-tart/poker mech. Too much pod tonnage is eaten up by the jump jets not to take advantage of them, and it's a bit too fragile to go toe to toe with mechs of equal or greater tonnage.

That being said, it's pretty late in the mechs release schedule, I think for an MC purchase. I'd suggest waiting for C-Bills.

[Idealsuspect]

Bombast, on 04 January 2017 - 08:00 PM, said:

The Huntsman's a pretty nice medium, but does have a niche - It's a pop-tart/poker mech. Too much pod tonnage is eaten up by the jump jets not to take advantage of them, and it's a bit too fragile to go toe to toe with mechs of equal or greater tonnage.

That being said, it's pretty late in the mechs release schedule, I think for an MC purchase. I'd suggest waiting for C-Bills.

Problem of hunstman isn't the 5 JJ ( 2,5 tons ), for my part all my hunchies have 4 JJs ( and maybe i would put 5 if i could )
His 250 capped engine is more a problem IMO. My hunchies run 275 engine.
Hunstman isn't more fragile than any other 50 tons jumping clan or IS mech. Maybe this mech is a bit too tall.


Problem is that hunchi 2C can boat like an hunstman and in same can bring engine you want with or without armor upgrade .. also you can basically builds more specialized loadouts.
Hunstman is a bit less versatile hunchi 2C.

Edited by Idealsuspect, 04 January 2017 - 09:51 PM.

[Pariah Devalis]

Idealsuspect, on 04 January 2017 - 09:46 PM, said:

Problem of hunstman isn't the 5 JJ ( 2,5 tons ), hunstman isn't more fragile than any other 50 tons jumping clan or IS mech.
For my part all my hunchies have 4 JJs ( and maybe i would put 5 if i could )

Problem is that hunchi 2C can boat like an hunstman and in same can bring engine you want with or without armor upgrade .. also you can basically builds more specialized loadouts.
Hunstman is a bit less versatile hunchi 2C.

Matter of perspective. When the rule of three goes away with the new skill tree, a single Huntsman in your mechbay could carry almost everything a Hunchback IIC can, except with no need to have multiple chassis taking up your mech bays by virtue of being an omnimech. One mech that can do anything you want it to on a single variant is its own versatility.

Huge bang for the buck. Plus, I'd argue that in many of the places the Hunchback IIC beats out the Huntsman, it is by a ludicrously small margin. One I'd argue is compensated for with being able to actually protect its side torsos a bit. Practically speaking, a Twin UAC10 HMN will perform near identically to a twin UAC10 HBK-IIC. Same for a twin ERPPC HMN vs HBK. The pure lazvom or twin 12-ton ballistic fits, though, is a HBK-IIC exclusive thing, however.

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 04 January 2017 - 09:52 PM.

[Idealsuspect]

Pariah Devalis, on 04 January 2017 - 09:50 PM, said:

Matter of perspective.

What i did said about huntsman are just facts ... then it don't mean nobody have to buy it ...

I have in my collection lots of useless mechs which were less good than a huntsman before and for my part i will buy hunstman next month better or not better than my hunchies in fact ( coze i have tonns of mechbays and tonns of cbills i have to admit lol )