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#61 Quicksilver Aberration

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 03:25 PM

The source of all truth says it doesn't exist so as far as I'm concerned the Vampire is non-canon and something somebody made up and probably included in Megamek to confuse everybody.

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 03:31 PM

View PostAppleseeN, on 10 January 2017 - 03:22 PM, said:

Also can't find it on Sarna, but does exist on UTRO3058 books. If I'll get ma hands on scaner I'll scan it-off for the thread.


Please do. According to Sarna, 3058U's only 100 ton mechs are the Devestator and Kodiak.

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 04:55 PM

View PostAppleseeN, on 10 January 2017 - 03:22 PM, said:

Also can't find it on Sarna, but does exist on UTRO3058 books. If I'll get ma hands on scaner I'll scan it-off for the thread.



View PostBombast, on 10 January 2017 - 03:31 PM, said:


Please do. According to Sarna, 3058U's only 100 ton mechs are the Devestator and Kodiak.


TRO 3058 Upgrade? Also has Thunder Hawk and Pillager. But no Vampire. Looking at my hardcopy now.

View PostQuicksilver Kalasa, on 10 January 2017 - 03:25 PM, said:

The source of all truth says it doesn't exist so as far as I'm concerned the Vampire is non-canon and something somebody made up and probably included in Megamek to confuse everybody.

For being "Online TT" sure seems like there are a lot of off things in Megamek, like weird alpha strikes causing overheating rules and such that get people swearing to all kinds of silliness as "canon TT".

Not knocking Megamek, or at least not trying to, but I've had some weird argument with Megamek devotees over the years. Still, not as bad as some of the nonsense that occurred over with MekTek MW4 near the end....

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 10 January 2017 - 05:00 PM.


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Posted 10 January 2017 - 05:04 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 10 January 2017 - 04:55 PM, said:

TRO 3058 Upgrade? Also has Thunder Hawk and Pillager. But no Vampire. Looking at my hardcopy now.


Whoops, my bad. Forgot that they separate everything into Inner Sphere, Clan, and Star League, not just IS and Clan, and didn't look far enough down on the page. Thanks for the correction.

Edited by Bombast, 10 January 2017 - 05:04 PM.


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Posted 10 January 2017 - 05:58 PM

View PostChapeL, on 10 January 2017 - 10:11 AM, said:

Now how about a Pillager instead ? ( Devastator works too ) ;)


The Pillager loses out because it's ballistics are torso mounted. It'd be fair in game but there's better options than a 100t Mauler with JJ.

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 06:08 PM

All I can say is... please don't ruin an iconic mech by trying to introduce it to MWO.

Just please no.

The only thing that will follow this is that "it'll be worse than the Dire Wolf" by the masses, except those that believe the quad LBX10 stock build is going to be some sort of dealbreaker somehow.

Just no.

Please.

It's going to happen anyways, so.... /sigh

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 06:17 PM

View PostI_AM_ZUUL, on 10 January 2017 - 12:48 AM, said:


when the Capellean is talking $hit... you know it is about to go down

I'm only in Capella because my unit's XO said so.

View PostRestosIII, on 09 January 2017 - 10:50 PM, said:





Posted Image

I think it's obvious.

Yeah, I don't think money would be enough of a motivator to join the Billy Mays Clan.

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 06:24 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 10 January 2017 - 06:08 PM, said:

All I can say is... please don't ruin an iconic mech by trying to introduce it to MWO.

Just please no.

The only thing that will follow this is that "it'll be worse than the Dire Wolf" by the masses, except those that believe the quad LBX10 stock build is going to be some sort of dealbreaker somehow.

Just no.

Please.

It's going to happen anyways, so.... /sigh


Yeah, the mechs released so far have been ruined. I won't ever be able to look at a timberwolf or a Summoner or a dire wolf or a king crab or a Mauler or a Banshee or a Kodiak or a hunchback or an Arctic cheetah ever again.


*Facepalm*

I WANT FOUR AC/10's !!!!

Edited by Prosperity Park, 10 January 2017 - 06:25 PM.


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Posted 10 January 2017 - 06:26 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 10 January 2017 - 06:08 PM, said:

All I can say is... please don't ruin an iconic mech by trying to introduce it to MWO.

Just please no.

The only thing that will follow this is that "it'll be worse than the Dire Wolf" by the masses, except those that believe the quad LBX10 stock build is going to be some sort of dealbreaker somehow.

Just no.

Please.

It's going to happen anyways, so.... /sigh

Why not? MWO masses have already ruined the Warhammer and such with the Meta Builds out there... what makes the Anni any more sacred to be spared the Meta-****?

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 06:29 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 10 January 2017 - 06:26 PM, said:

what makes the Anni any more sacred to be spared the Meta-****?


Especially since a pretty big portion of the Annihilator fan club probably remember it best from "Bag o' Guns MechLab" Mechwarrior 3.

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 07:08 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 10 January 2017 - 06:26 PM, said:

Why not? MWO masses have already ruined the Warhammer and such with the Meta Builds out there...

The game ruined the 'Mechs. People just take the clue.

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 07:11 PM

View PostHit the Deck, on 10 January 2017 - 07:08 PM, said:

The game ruined the 'Mechs. People just take the clue.

one is not forced to pluck the low hanging fruit. One chooses to.
(doesn't absolve the tree owner of not trimming his damn tree better, though)

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 10 January 2017 - 07:11 PM.


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Posted 10 January 2017 - 07:19 PM

View PostProsperity Park, on 10 January 2017 - 06:24 PM, said:

Yeah, the mechs released so far have been ruined. I won't ever be able to look at a timberwolf or a Summoner or a dire wolf or a king crab or a Mauler or a Banshee or a Kodiak or a hunchback or an Arctic cheetah ever again.


*Facepalm*

I WANT FOUR AC/10's !!!!


Stacking the most mediocre weapon system in the game?

Gee, that's going to be better.

All the mechs you have named are already good. The Annihilator, like the upcoming Bushwacker, is not going to do anything of consequence with the game (unless they are super quirked to death).


View PostBishop Steiner, on 10 January 2017 - 06:26 PM, said:

Why not? MWO masses have already ruined the Warhammer and such with the Meta Builds out there... what makes the Anni any more sacred to be spared the Meta-****?


It's not. TBH, it's strongly unlikely to ever be meta-compliant by design.

Edited by Deathlike, 10 January 2017 - 07:20 PM.


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Posted 10 January 2017 - 07:22 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 10 January 2017 - 07:11 PM, said:

one is not forced to pluck the low hanging fruit. One chooses to.
(doesn't absolve the tree owner of not trimming his damn tree better, though)

Or better yet, plant a better tree.

This tree is very hard to maintain since it's not meant to grow in this soil.

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 10:54 PM

there is a 300 base engine annihilator (the heretic variant used by wolfs drags Posted Image ) so it would be just about as fast as a fatlas. on the one hand it is way more XL friendly than the fatlas because of its stalker type body, on the other hand that giraffe head just screams battlemaster level headshotting Posted Image

Edited by Valhallan, 10 January 2017 - 10:55 PM.


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Posted 10 January 2017 - 10:59 PM

View PostValhallan, on 10 January 2017 - 10:54 PM, said:

...on the one hand it is way more XL friendly than the fatlas because of its stalker type body...


It would be XL friendly because it would have a Clan XL engine.

Edited by Bombast, 10 January 2017 - 10:59 PM.






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