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[The6thMessenger]

Quirks:

Spoiler

BALLISTIC COOLDOWN: 10.00 %
BALLISTIC VELOCITY: 10.00 %
LAC/5 VELOCITY: 15%
LAC/5 COOLDOWN: 15.00 %
ENERGY COOLDOWN: 10.00 %
ER MEDIUM LASER COOLDOWN: 15%
MISSILE COOLDOWN: 10.00 %
LRM5 COOLDOWN: 15%
TURN RATE: 10.00 %
TORSO TURN RATE (YAW): 25.00 %
ARMOR BONUS (CT): 16.00
ARMOR BONUS (LT): 12.00
ARMOR BONUS (RT): 12.00
ARMOR BONUS (LA): 8.00
ARMOR BONUS (RA): 8.00
ARMOR BONUS (LL): 12.00
ARMOR BONUS (RL): 12.00

LORE:

Spoiler

CRB-42AP "Alpheid"

Despite so much destroyed Crabs that almost put the mech into Lostech, Comstar unbeknownst many have massive stockpiles. And Yuna Cassell, before being one of the top engineers she had to claw her way up, and before everything else she made, she was the "Little Shrimp"; the revival of the Crabs at 3050 was her doing working alongside with Corsara after many years of development of the Crabs.

"Alpheid" was the designation of the project, with so much time on her hands, she explored different possibilities of what else such a mech can offer, and while the focus was to downgrade the mech into the CRB-20, she also made a variant similar to the King Crab -- only smaller. Much rewiring has been done that it can no longer house so much energy weapons, but it is capable of simple refits of missile weapons and ballistic weapons.

Needing only for target practice, it only has STD235 engine, enough to have it running within the controlled test labs. It has one extra double-heat-sink on the right torso complete required amount of cooling. Armed with LAC/5s, one in each arm, and two LRM5 racks on the Right Torso, and then a pair ER Medium Lasers on the Left Torso. The sturdier LAC/5 barrel compared to the sensitive laser focusing lense proved to be not only able to withstand hand-to-hand combat, it's also known to append punches as it was shot point-blank at the same instance of the impact, called "Pistol-Snap" and is used with devastating effect. It has three tons of LAC/5 ammo, and two and one-half tons of LRM ammo, enough for short skirmishes.

It sought little action, more of proofing tests than anything else, done inside controlled the environments of the test-labs. The LAC/5s did well putting shells down range, so did the ER Medum Lasers fulfilling the role of long-range backup weapon, and the LRM5s able to provide indirect fire-support, it did left impressions to some mercenaries that managed to get a hold of it and crossed it's path. But wanting to arm armies by the thousands, the additional cost of ammunition and modifications to existing CRBs did not favor the CRB-42AP against the cheaper but just as effective CRB-20 and was left as an off-shelf model soon forgotten.

Baby King Crab everyone! Basically a king crab with "half" the level. It has LAC5 for it's hand cannons (that is also supposed to be covered by pincer bay door), 2x LRM5 for it's missile, and a 2x ER Medium Laser for it's energy weapons. The lower-arm actuator and hand-actuator is also removed from this variant, also the ammo is not supposed to be a lot, since literally it's there to mimic the King Crab basic lore build but smaller by some step, not be viable in the first place.

It's not totally like the King Crab, while the ballistic went two steps down, the laser just went one step down and there is two, likewise the missiles have two and basically is an LRM10. It's not an EXACT replica but i made it so because it's supposed to look like one, not completely act like one, there is still the performance to be concerned off.

I'm not really good with balancing, so the quirks are just there to explain the spirit of the hero mech.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 17 January 2017 - 04:15 PM.

[GreyNovember]

Why on earth does your premium costed custom mech have shs and no endo? Or a sub 250 engine?

Do... Do you like buying parts for heroes?

[The6thMessenger]

GreyNovember, on 16 January 2017 - 04:45 AM, said:

Why on earth does your premium costed custom mech have shs and no endo? Or a sub 250 engine?

Do... Do you like buying parts for heroes?

Calm your ****, i just had a PS error, it does come with Endo, Ferro, and DHS. Also it's just there to feature the mech with the STD200, not to make it viable. I already explained it.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 16 January 2017 - 04:54 AM.

[GreyNovember]

Its hardly a heroic mech if thats the lore.

Frankly I dont know the lore of a majority of hero mechs. I do remember them unpleasant in that i have to kit them out myself on top of the MC cost.

Take that as you will.

[Lily from animove]

thats at best suited for some scouting, on small maps but past that its so short on ammo it won't do much and too slow as well..
Your quirks are also dangerous, because people may use it with less Missiles and just go wild on more ac 5 ammo.
I like the idea fo a baby KGC, thats well done here, but hardly a good build for MWO.

Edited by Lily from animove, 16 January 2017 - 05:11 AM.

[Shiroi Tsuki]

Needs CT/Head Energy hardpoint

[Bombast]

GreyNovember, on 16 January 2017 - 05:00 AM, said:

Its hardly a heroic mech if thats the lore.

Most of the 'Hero' Mechs are just 'Notable' pilots from the TROs who had custom load outs (A handful of which may actually be Battletech heroes), or novel designs made by PGI.

GreyNovember, on 16 January 2017 - 05:00 AM, said:

Frankly I dont know the lore of a majority of hero mechs. I do remember them unpleasant in that i have to kit them out myself on top of the MC cost.

Gameplay/Story segregation is a ***** sometimes, to say nothing of a game where the events take places over a century where tech actually advances.

Anyway... not bad Messenger. Probably a bad moment to release it, since the Bushwacker, which one could arguably call the 'Ballistic Crab,' is being released soon. Or maybe that's what inspired you.

I think, if I were to get my hands on it, my personal config would be Dual AC/2s and an SRM12A. But my misplaced love for AC/2s taints my vision, I'm sure.

[MacClearly]

First I sort of like the idea of making it more like the King Crab, but a big resounding no to sticking lrm five's on it.

Another more valid reason why I think they should do other mechs first is you can already get cbill boosted versions of the Crab in the Resistance pack and the Steam pack, so I would like to see chassis that don't have any special variants available done first.

[The6thMessenger]

Now that i think about it, since we can speculate with new weapon, hows about an LAC5 instead?

[Bombast]

The6thMessenger, on 17 January 2017 - 03:20 AM, said:

Now that i think about it, since we can speculate with new weapon, hows about an LAC5 instead?

I'm all for LACs.

What do you propose adding with your extra 6 tons?

[Lily from animove]

Bombast, on 17 January 2017 - 06:50 AM, said:

I'm all for LACs.

What do you propose adding with your extra 6 tons?

+1t more ammo, a DHS (or another ton more ammo) rest bigger engine

i would also redistribute ammo, the half lrm ton in the CT (should be shot empty quite well) and a Ac5 into the head. as well as putting one Ac 5 tonnage in each arm.

whats the point of STD when the mamo in the CT cna blow up hurting your CT that much

Edited by Lily from animove, 17 January 2017 - 07:07 AM.

[The6thMessenger]

Bombast, on 17 January 2017 - 06:50 AM, said:

I'm all for LACs.

What do you propose adding with your extra 6 tons?

I upgraded the engine to 235, and added more LRM ammo. I also replaced the Med Lasers with ER Med Lasers, and readjusted the quirk accordingly.



Quirks:
MAX ENGINE: 275
BALLISTIC COOLDOWN: 10.00 %
BALLISTIC VELOCITY: 10.00 %
LAC/5 VELOCITY: 15%
LAC/5 COOLDOWN: 15.00 %
ENERGY COOLDOWN: 10.00 %
ER MEDIUM LASER COOLDOWN: 15%
MISSILE COOLDOWN: 10.00 %
LRM5 COOLDOWN: 15%
TURN RATE: 10.00 %
TORSO TURN RATE (YAW): 25.00 %
ARMOR BONUS (CT): 16.00
ARMOR BONUS (LT): 12.00
ARMOR BONUS (RT): 12.00
ARMOR BONUS (LA): 8.00
ARMOR BONUS (RA): 8.00
ARMOR BONUS (LL): 12.00
ARMOR BONUS (RL): 12.00

Edited by The6thMessenger, 18 January 2017 - 04:12 AM.

[Nullmancer]

this is dumb.

[Alex Morgaine]

Its almost like a home brew of mine from a few days ago messing with 3060+ tech. Nice. But it needs 4e and a few more b. One sec, loading up the build.
The short:
250 lfe, xl gyro, endo steel and lff armor at 9.5 tons, 3 machine guns (1in each arm, one in the ct) with half a ton of ammo, twin light ac5s and a ton off ammo each as your build, 2 mml3 launchers with 2 tons of ammo on the left shoulder and 4 erml on the right shoulder. Case also but that can btw dropped like a bad habit. Add a standard ams slot and there you go. Uses almost all advanced tech though. Tt homebrew lore was it was to be a replacement for the Shadowhawk using a crab chassis as a base.

Oh edit; no hands to fit the last few crits

Edited by Alex Morgaine, 17 January 2017 - 04:25 PM.

[Alex Morgaine]

Nullmancer, on 17 January 2017 - 04:17 PM, said:

this is dumb.

Some people want to theory craft a fun mech.

[Alex Morgaine]

Redit: forgot xl gyro = mg moved to head. But still this can do something stupid like 5 mg.... Or an xl and 5 lac2s and lots of ammo xD head mount= highish mount though the arms wouldn't be as much, but 5 lac2 on a 50 ton mech with something around8 tons of ammo.

[Spheroid]

This forum does contain a mech design sub-section FYI.

[The6thMessenger]

Spheroid, on 17 January 2017 - 05:04 PM, said:

This forum does contain a mech design sub-section FYI.

Which is where?

[Lily from animove]

still, put osme ammo in the ehad, the eha dis the most save place for it, the chances someone hits your head and makes it not destroy, but blow up the ammo there, is like 0,00000001% chance. Safest place for ammo is still the head.

Alex Morgaine, on 17 January 2017 - 04:23 PM, said:

Some people want to theory craft a fun mech.

"ewwww fun"

-tryhard crowd-

Edited by Lily from animove, 18 January 2017 - 02:11 AM.

[Lupis Volk]

Lily from animove, on 18 January 2017 - 02:10 AM, said:

still, put osme ammo in the ehad, the eha dis the most save place for it, the chances someone hits your head and makes it not destroy, but blow up the ammo there, is like 0,00000001% chance. Safest place for ammo is still the head.





"ewwww fun"

-tryhard crowd-

"Fun what is fun" -Meta Chaser.

I want that Crab.

Edited by Lupis Volk, 18 January 2017 - 03:11 AM.