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[Crotch RockIt]

Metus regem, on 18 January 2017 - 12:41 PM, said:

No, by Kerensky's hairy backside no!

The Javelin.. why did it have to be the Javelin....

I would've been killed piloting the Stinger, Wasp or Valkyrie!

Fixed it for you.

[Kanil]

Bishop Steiner, on 18 January 2017 - 05:03 PM, said:

modelers aren't exactly a dime a dozen....without at least the initial PGI model, there would literally be no Battletech 2017. From the mouth of their lead Dev.

PGI hasn't turned out a single tank, and yet BattleTech is still going to have some. Surely whoever's making the tanks (and every prop on the map) could quite possibly also turn out a 'mech or two if PGI decides it's not worth their time but HBS decides it is.

I guess I just don't understand the "yes this 'mech is terrible but HBS!" line of thought.

Edited by Kanil, 18 January 2017 - 07:34 PM.

[Metus regem]

Crotch RockIt, on 18 January 2017 - 06:12 PM, said:

Fixed it for you.

I pilot Locusts, death always rides with me.... I think I've made it to the end of a match 2-3 times as the victor and been the last blue standing for the Reds to murder many times...

[Scout Derek]

Kanil, on 18 January 2017 - 07:34 PM, said:

PGI hasn't turned out a single tank, and yet BattleTech is still going to have some. Surely whoever's making the tanks (and every prop on the map) could quite possibly also turn out a 'mech or two if PGI decides it's not worth their time but HBS decides it is.

I guess I just don't understand the "yes this 'mech is terrible but HBS!" line of thought.

People are holding onto HBS and making them accountable for their reliability in making games, so, in their distaste for PGI, use that logic that HBS will make a game they will surely like from the start to the end.

[Ghostrider0067]

Uh, no, to keep it simple.

[Bishop Steiner]

Kanil, on 18 January 2017 - 07:34 PM, said:

I guess I just don't understand the "yes this 'mech is terrible but HBS!" line of thought.

And...you really don't have to.

[King Kahuna]

Bishop Steiner, on 18 January 2017 - 05:11 PM, said:

With no Chameleon Light Polarization Shield or Nullsig, what in Kerensky's third nipple does the Spector Provide that isn't already in game? Oh look...another PewPew Light!


K. Good thing there are a few more people than you playing, eh?


Y'all really got stop thinking Cathy speaks for all, or even the majority of 3025 grognards.

As for me, my only concern is that once the page is turned, I just don't see them revisiting those designs again. I could be wrong, but that is very much the read I get from the way the Devs have approached things. That said, I have pretty freely noted I want some 3025 robots and some new tech ones.

Sooo.... yeah, you can stick that stereotype in ya pipe, and spark it up, bruh.


So what? Some of us aren't tied to what Metamechs like.

So Bishop...If you want it, it must be, but if another player wants something else your answer is "what does that add that isn't in the game already?"

While I want the Spector I am not going to get on a soap box about it. You want many mechs that don't add anything to the game that we don't already have. They have an application to another game you are waiting for and don't do anything for this player base. Funny thing is some of them I would like as well.

You want things in this game not because you want to play this game. You want it for another game. I for some reason think the people playing this game, paying for this game should have a bit of a say in what's in it.

O and I like PewPew lights

Your not the only one who has favorite mechs from your time playing tabletop days.

Edited by King Kahuna, 18 January 2017 - 08:16 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

King Kahuna, on 18 January 2017 - 08:14 PM, said:

So Bishop...If you want it, it must be, but if another player wants something else your answer is "what does that add that isn't in the game already?"

While I want the Spector I am not going to get on a soap box about it. You want many mechs that don't add anything to the game that we don't already have. They have an application to another game you are waiting for and don't do anything for this player base. Funny thing is some of them I would like as well.

You want things in this game not because you want to play this game. You want it for another game. I for some reason think the people playing this game, paying for this game should have a bit of a say in what's in it.

O and I like PewPew lights

Your not the only one who has mechs from your time playing tabletop.

I at no point have ever made such a claim. I simply asked what it brought interesting. Untwist your knickers.

[King Kahuna]

Bishop Steiner, on 18 January 2017 - 08:15 PM, said:

I at no point have ever made such a claim. I simply asked what it brought interesting. Untwist your knickers.

I am responding to your exact question and the tone including exclamation point. Many of your post I like but I am not sure if you are aware about how you come across. Not all of us have anywhere near the salt content.

[Kanil]

Bishop Steiner, on 18 January 2017 - 07:40 PM, said:

And...you really don't have to.

Thank you for your valuable and enlightening insight.

[Bishop Steiner]

King Kahuna, on 18 January 2017 - 08:19 PM, said:

I am responding to your exact question and the tone including exclamation point. Many of your post I like but I am not sure if you are aware about how you come across. Not all of us have anywhere near the salt content.

Lol, ok, whatever. As per normal Forum, you came looking for offense, and "found it" enjoy.

Kanil, on 18 January 2017 - 08:20 PM, said:

Thank you for your valuable and enlightening insight.

As invaluable as your own. It's not really something that needs deep profound elucidation. You don't have to "get" or "like" every decision, just like I don't. Pretty simple, really.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 18 January 2017 - 08:23 PM.

[King Kahuna]

Bishop Steiner, on 18 January 2017 - 08:22 PM, said:

Lol, ok, whatever. As per normal Forum, you came looking for offense, and "found it" enjoy.


As invaluable as your own. It's not really something that needs deep profound elucidation. You don't have to "get" or "like" every decision, just like I don't. Pretty simple, really.

Sharpen your pitchfork because I am going to start asking for the Hellion as well

[Bishop Steiner]

King Kahuna, on 18 January 2017 - 08:24 PM, said:

Sharpen your pitchfork because I am going to start asking for the Hellion as well

Ask away. Not a fan, but it looks... interesting at least.

[Khalcruth]

I think of it this way.

Let's say it costs $20000 in development costs to make a mech. If PGI turns around and sells to model to HBS for a quarter of that, then it really only costs PGI $15000.

Then when we turn around and buy mech packs for that mech, we only have to spend 75% of the normal price, in order for PGI to break even. There are different ways things can go from here

- PGI has less "risk" every time it releases a mech, and can afford to do it more often. They can also afford to risk making a mech that might not sell as well as others have done before.
- if PGI's sales stay constant, they're making more money. They can afford to spend this "extra" money on non-mech things, like new maps and game modes
- or, PGI could lower prices on mech packs - if they only need to make back $15000, but they think they'll sell the same number of mechs packs as before, they can afford to charge less per mech pack. Instead of selling 1000 mech packs at $20, they make back their costs if the sell 1000 mech packs at $15.

As far as I can see, every mech they make that they can also sell to HBS is a win for players in this game.

[Archangel.84]

No, not content.

Stinger/Wasp
Valkyrie
Dervish.


But, bring on the new mechs as well.

[Steinar Bergstol]

Juodas Varnas, on 18 January 2017 - 12:47 PM, said:

I still need my Scorpion, Goliath, Vulcan and (maybe) the Dervish.

Macross trio of Stinger/Wasp/Valkyrie would be quite awesome as well.

Actually, Juodas, it would be the Macross quartet (as in QUAD, see what I did there? Eh? Eh? ) of Stinger/Wasp/Valkyrie/Crusader. They're all based on the Veritech after all.

[C E Dwyer]

Nope

Crusader, Wasp,Stinger, Valkyrie, Dervish, Whitworth, Hermes II Vulcan still not in the game

Then I won't give a damn about the balance and the power creep ruining the game further, that so many seem desperate to see arrive.

[C E Dwyer]

Bishop Steiner, on 18 January 2017 - 05:03 PM, said:

not 100% true. We ain't all Cathy or St Jobe. I can live without Ostbots, the Wasp, really don't give a flip about the Valkyrie, Clint, Whitworth...or any of the 2750 bots they shoe horned into 3025 to compensate for lost Unseen... aside from my Thug.... which is going to get lost in the Charger/Hatamoto/Thug scrum anyhow.

Oh fame and fortune at last

[a gaijin]

CK16, on 18 January 2017 - 12:32 PM, said:

So with the last mech released today (Javein) does this round out a good margin of 3025ish mechs for you guys? Obviously there are still 100+ mechs left, and I am sure each of you could make a long list of those you desire to have. But the question remains of all these mechs in MWO that fit the era...

Are you content for now, as we jump into some 3060ish mechs in March?
Is the roster of these mechs set to make HBS Battletech feel flushed out?




If not content what 3 realistic mechs would you say make you feel better if they came in this year or early next?

Not even close I'm sad to say.

For starters, all mechs from MW2 Mercenaris and Ghost Bear's Legacy need to be released.

Then the roster would be complete but then we basically have a kinda glorified version of MW2 Mercs multiplayer Instant Action Mode.
It ...works.
Apparently enough to have sold me on the whole "founder's" concept and even the ...kekeke... "Gold Khans."

Now though, I see that MW should start as a single player game with some sort of story and then a multiplayer component. I hate to say that I finally think this iteration did not deliver. But ....what it DID do is widen the 'potential' customer base. At the cost of ...heh..."multiplayer balance in a free to play game" by sacrificing what made it all great to begin with. Basically.

Oh well...****** in the wind. I love MW and this is the only one we got so I guess I should stop waxing nostalgic in the forums and just start eating extra salty potato chips.

Now I think I finally understand what GRiPSViGiL felt.
/endweirdrant

[Valdarion Silarius]

Star Commander Horse, on 19 January 2017 - 06:50 AM, said:

Not even close I'm sad to say.

For starters, all mechs from MW2 Mercenaris and Ghost Bear's Legacy need to be released.

Then the roster would be complete but then we basically have a kinda glorified version of MW2 Mercs multiplayer Instant Action Mode.
It ...works.
Apparently enough to have sold me on the whole "founder's" concept and even the ...kekeke... "Gold Khans."

Now though, I see that MW should start as a single player game with some sort of story and then a multiplayer component. I hate to say that I finally think this iteration did not deliver. But ....what it DID do is widen the 'potential' customer base. At the cost of ...heh..."multiplayer balance in a free to play game" by sacrificing what made it all great to begin with. Basically.

Oh well...****** in the wind. I love MW and this is the only one we got so I guess I should stop waxing nostalgic in the forums and just start eating extra salty potato chips.

Now I think I finally understand what GRiPSViGiL felt.
/endweirdrant

You are right about their failure to deliver. However, I think at the very least they should finish up with the Mechwarrior 2 line up before the jump into the new 3060+ mech bandwagon. That means literally three mechs left to go, and maybe a few more from GBL that the clans can benefit from (Horned Owl and Incubus). The mechs from MW2:Mercs would take a bit since there is a pretty long list to go still.

What they should be doing is picking the mechs that have practical value WITH nostalgia tied into the same package. Take a look at the classic MW:2 mechs like Firemoth and the Rifleman IIC. The clans could really benefit from a new 20 ton light mech if PGI got over their phobia of cryengine limitations, and the Rifleman IIC has a lot to offer for STD usage, lower tonnage for drop decks in FW, and high weapon mounts.