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[mxs]

Hey all. So, I'm a noob as the title says.
I really like this game, but, how the heck do you win one once in a while???
I'm working my butt off, but no matter what I do, and what ever vehicle I'm in, it doesn't matter. I try to hide and shoot, then relocate, but the other team seems to over power us more often than not,
Just bad playing on my part or what?
I've won a few,but, losing way more that winning.
I'm not a new comer to video games, playing Wargaming WOWP's and WOT's.
Any help would be much appreciated,

Thanks in advance.

HEAVEYGEAR.

[Cy Mitchell]

Did you complete the tutorial and collect your cadet rewards?

Have you reset your in game mouse sensitive way down so you can actually hit stuff? Example my mouse is set at 900DPI and I have my In Game Mouse Sensitivity set around .20.

Have you purchased a Mech yet and started leveling up the skills?

If you purchased a Mech have you checked some of the build threads In the Guide and Strategy forum to find optimum builds?

Beyond answering those questions with affirmatives or doing those things, the best advice I can give you is to find the Assault and Heavy lance at the beginning of the match and walk to the battle with them. Shoot at what they shoot at. If they are a bigger target than you then you will not become the focus too fast and can deal some damage and start racking up some c-bills so you can improve your Mech.

What Mech are you currently using?

Edited by Rampage, 22 January 2017 - 10:36 PM.

[S 0 L E N Y A]

send me a private msg or add me in game. I can take you out and show you the ropes

[mxs]

Thanks for the reply.
I have completed the tutorial, and collected the rewards.
I have purchased two mechs, the Stalker ST5M and the King Crib KGC-000B
I like to support more than rush in.
I try to stay with my lance as well.

Thanks Boogie!
I am singing off tonight because of work, But I will look for you during the week.
I also have Team Speak if that's any help.

[Koniving]

HEAVEYGEAR, on 22 January 2017 - 10:22 PM, said:

Thanks in advance.

HEAVEYGEAR.

Welcome to MWO.

Being new, you'll likely be in tier 4 or 5. I'm not sure which it starts you in (5 being the lowest). Either way, lots of other players are also new... and many are not. Any battle you face is typically going to be one of attrition. That is the team whose resources (players / 'Mechs) dwindles first is likely going to lose.

When one team has lost four mechs, the match is almost certainly decided. If there's a six mech lead... it's basically game over.

Don't get isolated, stay together, cover each other's backs. Gang up on enemies, try to isolate enemies, stay in communication with your team.

When fighting an enemy, use R to target them. This is important to the entire team and not just you. Figure out what body parts are weak and focus your attacks on them until they are destroyed.

Some samples...
Isolating enemies.


"Always on the move."


"Stay calm and win." (Lots of useful information throughout especially if you're not going to hang out with the rest of the team, but the real action isn't for 6 minutes.) (Note; the computer voices are edited but they tell you a LOT of what is going on around me.)


Tactical positioning. (Note: This was when premade groups of 4 intermingled with 8 standalone players. Now there are separate premade group queues and regular player queues).

[Void Angel]

New players start in 5 now - originally it was Tier 4, but that was bad.

[Cy Mitchell]

HEAVEYGEAR, on 22 January 2017 - 10:57 PM, said:

Thanks for the reply.
I have completed the tutorial, and collected the rewards.
I have purchased two mechs, the Stalker ST5M and the King Crib KGC-000B
I like to support more than rush in.
I try to stay with my lance as well.

Thanks Boogie!
I am singing off tonight because of work, But I will look for you during the week.
I also have Team Speak if that's any help.

Well, you will not be able to hide a Stalker and certainly not a King Crab even among the other Assaults. Those videos that Koniving posted are a good place to start with your education and then if Boogie is going to mentor you will be well on your way to improving your scores.

[Nerokar]

I'm surprised, no one asked:

Do you play random games or are you playing faction warefare?
If the first: Watch knowings vids and play some games with boogie, realy helpfull guys.
If the second: Well, thats hard one. Here you will meet a lot of coordinated lances that let you nearly no chance to win. It is hard to play FW as a newbee. And even harder as newbee without a lance...

One more: Your mechs are powerhouses but not exactly beginner friendly. They are slow and require good positioning. Ones cought, you will get difficulties to correct your mistake. Assault and Light are the most difficult weights to learn. Esp. in PUG games you will get a lot of difficulties to catch up your faster team mates... and in low bracket they often simply dont care.

But once you learn how assaults work, you WILL melt faces

Edited by Nerokar, 23 January 2017 - 01:16 AM.

[Burning2nd]

HEAVEYGEAR, on 22 January 2017 - 10:57 PM, said:

I like to support more than rush in.

standing still gets you dead, more then likely your just making bad decisions that lead to the dead of you and your team

Also mastering the mech chasis... getting the speed tweak and filling the module slots will make things better for you.. but that cost cbills.. something you probably dont have right now.. when you get to the point im at.. youll have millions and millions and nothing to do with it them

Id recommend trying to pilot a heavy or medium first, mastereing out a tree... getting a few modules in place..

[Amatsukaze]

I am brand new as well to MWOL but I am also old having cut my teeth on the original MW & MW2 so I do have a inkling on what to do but still have much to learn. I still die allot more then I would like but I am getting better at taking several with me. I tend to play lights & mediums though.

Single best peace of advice is dont lone wolf it. Stay with your Lance or if they scatter stick with a lance or group that doesnt. 2nd would be dont trade shots, odds are you arent as accurate nor using your weapons at their optimum range compared to your adversary. Instead of standing up & slugging it out pick at the edges. Finally pick a heavy or assault & stay with them lending your fire to theirs. They are bigger so a juicer target then you plus you might sneak in a kill or 2 while their weapons recharge.

[Koniving]

Nerokar, on 23 January 2017 - 01:14 AM, said:

I'm surprised, no one asked:

Do you play random games or are you playing faction warefare?

Lack of asking I think came with the emblem. No affiliation what-so-ever.
Still, that is a good question.

[Void Angel]

As for playing "support" with an assault, unless you're planning on LRM boating - and if you do, there's a few things you should know - your best option is to play what I call a second-line brawler. A Stalker SRM Brawling Build or a Large Laser poker would be ideal for it. Essentially, you go in with the push, but not at the front of it. Your Stalker's hit boxes make it very hard to kill efficiently from the front, and very easy to cripple from the side - so you stay back a couple hundred meters from the melee and blast the people your more brawly fellows are trying to focus down. In the "hey, lets all stand behind rocks and 'trade' because that's what all the top players do" phase, you'll avoid exposing yourself and focus on blasting enemies who are harassing your team or poking at close range.

[Not A Real RAbbi]

It takes twelve to tango. Really. I did a math.

Support? No offense, but that's what they (WE) all say when we don't wanna have to tank damage. Like in the Army, one volunteers quick for the easy work detail, in order to not get voluntold to do the hard stuff. And yeah, brawling is tough. It requires more/better concentration than does sniping.

To the point, though, you actually CAN be a badass as a 'supporting' role. No, really. Why y'all laughin'? It's called armor sharing. At some point, you've got to go take a couple shots on the chin. Why?

Your teammates can use that breathing room to cool down, reposition, and take back the initiative. Longer it takes to kill any one of them, the more firepower blue team has to REK EFFIN RED FACE.

So yeah. Twelve to tango.

Welcome to the 31st Century, cowboy!

[Void Angel]

A lot depends on what one means by "support," though, which is why I'm using the quotation marks.

Rabbi's quite right, however; the most common and egregious failure you see with people using sniper, LRM, and even dakka builds is when they assume that getting shot at is someone else's job - and are subsequently hunted down as the last jerk to die in a fresh assault 'mech.

Edited by Void Angel, 23 January 2017 - 05:39 PM.

[Not A Real RAbbi]

Void Angel, on 23 January 2017 - 05:39 PM, said:

A lot depends on what one means by "support," though, which is why I'm using the quotation marks.

Rabbi's quite right, however; the most common and egregious failure you see with people using sniper, LRM, and even dakka builds is when they assume that getting shot at is someone else's job - and are subsequently hunted down as the last jerk to die in a fresh assault 'mech.

So true it hurts. LRMs, snipers, EW/escorts... Still gotta get out on the floor and do the dance. That means "MOVE OUT! DRAW FIRE!" The best LRMers (I'm partial to the HBK-4J antics of Jman5) stay right up there with the skirmishers and rek stuf. And they draw plenty of fire. But everyone else on the team is better off that way.

It's like the Force. You must bring the balance...

[mxs]

Thanks for the advice and support from everyone!

RAbbi described what I like to do when I say "support" I'm not the kind that rushes in, but I'm right there with you.
I guess I just need the practice, practice, practice.

[Void Angel]

=)
Read Tactics 101 in the guide section, too. It gives a very good, very accessible overview of tactics.

[mxs]

Thanks for the info Void. I'll be sure to look that up.

[Chound]

HEAVEYGEAR, on 23 January 2017 - 06:42 PM, said:

Thanks for the advice and support from everyone!

RAbbi described what I like to do when I say "support" I'm not the kind that rushes in, but I'm right there with you.
I guess I just need the practice, practice, practice.

use the shooting gallery on the main screen you can go through the map looking for features you can use as well as mauvering your mech and shooting stationary targets. It's not the same as the real thing it's easier to figure out different movements to target the mech more quickly After that you try the mech in the accademy's target gallery those shoot back
I'm a noob as well and I keep getting destoryed. The only time I survived it was because ;I couldn't find the battle.(that's why you should look for features like how to get into certain areas. I's a lot easier whe no one is shooting.)

[Jingseng]

Chound, on 24 January 2017 - 12:06 AM, said:

use the shooting gallery on the main screen you can go through the map looking for features you can use as well as mauvering your mech and shooting stationary targets. It's not the same as the real thing it's easier to figure out different movements to target the mech more quickly After that you try the mech in the accademy's target gallery those shoot back
I'm a noob as well and I keep getting destoryed. The only time I survived it was because ;I couldn't find the battle.(that's why you should look for features like how to get into certain areas. I's a lot easier whe no one is shooting.)

Not to be (too) offensive, but maybe you should be taking more advice than giving? That's about all I could understand from this. It reads like someone was in too much of a rush to get a post in - too many spelling errors (which usually means "I don't care about details", which is bad) and too few punctuation marks (which usually means "I don't notice differences/patterns/proper ordering or roles", which is also bad).

That sort of hastiness doesn't translate well to the MWO battlefield. Not a twitch shooter.

Always take a moment to take a deep breath and think... before posting, before charging out, before buying that mech, etc. Careful and considered thought is rewarded, especially in MWO. You learn more being observant.

Just give it a thought.