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[SuperFunkTron]

Sigmar Sich, on 03 February 2017 - 08:09 AM, said:

Best guide for production is Sarna. For example, you find mech, you click manufacturer, and explore its allegiance, and which models were produced on which planet. Personally for me, it is the ultimate answer for "can i use this mech?" for lore roleplay perspective.
P.S. CRB-20 were gifted to Kurita. And don't forget salvage - there is no possible restriction for mechs, because you can kill a guy who killed a guy who killed a guy in a Crab and took it; and salvage his Crab.


Is it accurate? In BattleTech 35014 - Historical - War of 3039 in RANDOM UNIT ASSIGNMENT TABLE: LYRAN COMMONWEALTH there is probability to roll Victor 4 times (2 9B and 29S), and Zeus 5 times. This is hardly 10 times difference as in posted table. Are my sources so outdated? Or is table based upon 3028-3050 Random Assignment & Rarity Tables 9.1 ? Those are HIGHLY inaccurate, i must warn you. There is even no mention of VTR-9S (unique Steiner model, not available even to Davion); since i used it as example. And because of this we have so warped proportion between ZEU and VTR in LCAF.
I wouldn't trust that tables, and urge you to do the same.

I am using the 3028-3050 Random Assignment & Rarity Tables 9.1. What are the more accurate sources available?
It'll throw a huge wrench in my tables, but I'm more than happy to switch to more accurate sources as long as I know what they are. Also, I believe that the table is regarding 3050

Edited by SuperFunkTron, 03 February 2017 - 08:23 AM.

[WolvesX]

Thank you all very much, this is so cool!

So you know the "story" of the BT-Universe does make "objective" sense?

I always thought taht especially the clan invasion stuff is silly. I think irl the other Clans would have just revolted against Clan Wolf and stopped fighting with "honour".

---

Also, I discussed in ingame chat for at least an hour who the good guys are and we found that the view, how is good guy is, maybe depends on the country / culture you are raised it.

Edited by WolvesX, 03 February 2017 - 08:37 AM.

[Sigmar Sich]

SuperFunkTron, on 03 February 2017 - 08:20 AM, said:

I am using the 3028-3050 Random Assignment & Rarity Tables 9.1. What are the more accurate sources available?

"Random Assignment & Rarity Tables" have some questionable decisions, VTR-9S as example - this mech is excluded from faction tables, labeled as rare "Belonging to this category are one-offs and extremely rare experimental variants (Victor 9S)", in spite VTR-9S is present in fresh(sort of) edition official rulebook - BattleTech 35014 - Historical - War of 3039 - in same quantities as original VTR-9B model, and same quantities as ZEU-6T. And proportions in "Random Assignment & Rarity Tables" for same age are far off from this.
Add to this absence of some new models as TDR-9S for 3050 age, or GRF-3M for Steiner...
I'm sure authors know what they doing, but i have severe doubts about some decisions.

BattleTech 35014 - Historical - War of 3039 - random unit tables, to my opinion are still best for representing mech numbers per faction.
I know same tables for 3050 exist, with clans, but i couldn't find it. I'll keep searching..

My analysis of 3039 tables: (not updated since 08 February 2015, so you need to add mechs and models introduced after this date)

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Capellan Confederation

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Light (1/6)
FS9-H Firestarter 4/33
JR7-D Jenner 1/33
LCT-1E Locust 1/33
LCT-3V Locust 1/33
LCT-1V Locust 2/33
SDR-5V Spider 5/33
UM-R60 UrbanMech 2/33
UM-60L UrbanMech 2/33

Medium (2/6)
BJ-1 Blackjack 3/33
BJ-3 Blackjack 1/33
CDA-3C Cicada 1/33
CDA-2B Cicada 1/33
GRF-1N Griffin 3/33
HBK-4J Hunchback 1/33
HBK-4G Hunchback 3/33
SHD-2H Shadow Hawk 3/33
VND-1R Vindicator 5/33
WVR-6R Wolverine 3/33

Heavy (2/6)
CTF-1X Cataphract 1/33
CTF-2X Cataphract 1/33
CPLT-A1 Catapult 1/33
CPLT-C1 Catapult 3/33
CPLT-C4 Catapult 1/33
GHR-5H Grasshopper 2/33
JM6-S JagerMech 2/33
ON1-K Orion 1/33
TDR-5S Thunderbolt 3/33

Assault (1/6)
AS7-D Atlas 5/33
AWS-8Q Awesome 3/33
AWS-8V Awesome 2/33
BNC-3E Banshee 2/33
BLR-1G BattleMaster 3/33
STK-3F Stalker 2/33
STK-4N Stalker 1/33
VTR-9B Victor 3/33

Drakonis Combine

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Light (2/6)
FS9-H Firestarter 2/33
JR7-D Jenner 3/33
JR7-F Jenner 2/33
LCT-3V Locust 2/33
LCT-1E Locust 1/33
LCT-1V Locust 1/33
PNT-9R Panther 4/33
SDR-5K Spider 2/33
SDR-5V Spider 1/33

Medium (2/6)
CN9-A Centurion 1/33
CDA-2A Cicada 1/33
GRF-1N Griffin 3/33
HBK-4G Hunchback 2/33
HBK-4J Hunchback 1/33
HBK-4P Hunchback 1/33
KTO-18 Kintaro 1/33
SHD-2K Shadow Hawk 1/33
SHD-2H Shadow Hawk 2/33
TBT-7K Trebuchet 1/33
TBT-5N Trebuchet 1/33
WVR-6R Wolverine 3/33
WVR-6K Wolverine 1/33

Heavy (1/6)
CPLT-K2 Catapult 2/33
DRG-1N Dragon 2/33
DRG-1G Grand Dragon 2/33
GHR-5N Grasshopper 1/33
GHR-5H Grasshopper 1/33
ON1-K Orion 3/33
QKD-4G Quickdraw 3/33
TDR-5S Thunderbolt 1/33

Assault (1/6)
AS7-D Atlas 4/33
AWS-8T Awesome 2/33
AWS-8Q Awesome 3/33
BNC-3E Banshee 2/33
BLR-1G BattleMaster 4/33
STK-3F Stalker 3/33
STK-4N Stalker 2/33
STK-3H Stalker 1/33
VTR-9B Victor 3/33

Federated Suns

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Light (2/6)
COM-2D Commando 2/33
FS9-H Firestarter 3/33
JR7-D Jenner 3/33
LCT-3V Locust 1/33
LCT-1E Locust 1/33
LCT-1M Locust 1/33
LCT-1V Locust 1/33
SDR-5V Spider 1/33

Medium (1/6)
BJ-3 Blackjack 1/33
BJ-1 Blackjack 1/33
BJ-1DB Blackjack 1/33
BJ-1DC Blackjack 1/33
CN9-A Centurion 3/33
CN9-AH Centurion 1/33
ENF-4R Enforcer 3/33
GRF-1N Griffin 3/33
HBK-4G Hunchback 2/33
HBK-4P Hunchback 1/33
SHD-2D Shadow Hawk 2/33
SHD-2H Shadow Hawk 1/33
TBT-5N Trebuchet 2/33
WVR-6R Wolverine 1/33

Heavy (2/6)
GHR-5N Grasshopper 1/33
GHR-5H Grasshopper 1/33
JM6-A JagerMech 2/33
JM6-S JagerMech 2/33
ON1-K Orion 1/33
TDR-5S Thunderbolt 3/33

Assault (1/6)
AS7-D Atlas 3/33
AWS-8Q Awesome 3/33
BNC-3E Banshee 2/33
BNC-3S Banshee 2/33
BLR-1D BattleMaster 2/33
BLR-1G BattleMaster 2/33
KGC-0000 King Crab 1/33
STK-3F Stalker 3/33
STK-3H Stalker 2/33
VTR-9B Victor 3/33
VTR-9A1 Victor 1/33

Free Worlds League

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Light (1/6)
FS9-H Firestarter 6/33
JR7-D Jenner 2/33
LCT-3V Locust 3/33
LCT-1E Locust 2/33
LCT-1V Locust 1/33
PNT-9R Panther 1/33
SDR-5V Spider 4/33
UM-R60 UrbanMech 2/33

Medium (3/6)
CDA-2A Cicada 2/33
CN9-A Centurion 1/33
GRF-1N Griffin 3/33
HBK-4G Hunchback 2/33
HBK-4N Hunchback 1/33
HBK-4P Hunchback 1/33
SHD-2H Shadow Hawk 3/33
TBT-5J Trebuchet 1/33
TBT-5N Trebuchet 1/33
WVR-6R Wolverine 2/33
WVR-6M Wolverine 1/33

Heavy (1/6)
GHR-5H Grasshopper 3/33
ON1-K Orion 3/33
ON1-VA Orion 2/33
QKD-4G Quickdraw 3/33
TDR-5S Thunderbolt 3/33

Assault (1/6)
AS7-D Atlas 5/33
BNC-3E Banshee 1/33
BNC-3Q Banshee 2/33
BNC-3M Banshee 2/33
BLR-1G BattleMaster 2/33
AWS-8Q Awesome 3/33
AWS-8V Awesome 1/33
AWS-8R Awesome 1/33
AWS-8T Awesome 1/33
STK-3H Stalker 1/33
STK-3F Stalker 3/33
STK-4N Stalker 1/33
STK-3H Stalker 1/33
VTR-9B Victor 3/33

Lyran Commonwealth

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Light (1/6)
COM-2D Commando 3/33
COM-3A Commando 2/33
FS9-H Firestarter 3/33
FS9-M Firestarter 3/33
LCT-1S Locust 2/33
LCT-3V Locust 1/33
LCT-1V Locust 2/33
SDR-5V Spider 1/33

Medium (1/6)
CN9-A Centurion 1/33
CN9-AL Centurion 1/33
CDA-2A Cicada 1/33
GRF-1N Griffin 2/33
GRF-1S Griffin 1/33
HBK-4G Hunchback 2/33
HBK-4P Hunchback 1/33
HBK-4SP Hunchback 2/33
KTO-18 Kintaro 1/33
SHD-2H Shadow Hawk 2/33
TBT-5S Trebuchet 2/33
TBT-5N Trebuchet 2/33
WVR-6R Wolverine 4/33

Heavy (2/6)
GHR-5N Grasshopper 2/33
GHR-5H Grasshopper 2/33
ON1-K Orion 2/33
QKD-4G Quickdraw 3/33
TDR-5S Thunderbolt 3/33
TDR-5SS Thunderbolt 1/33

Assault (2/6)
AWS-8T Awesome 1/33
AWS-8Q Awesome 3/33
AS7-D Atlas 4/33
BNC-3E Banshee 1/33
BNC-3S Banshee 2/33
BLR-1S BattleMaster 2/33
BLR-1G BattleMaster 3/33
STK-3F Stalker 3/33
VTR-9B Victor 3/33
VTR-9S Victor 2/33
ZEU-6S Zeus 3/33
ZEU-6T Zeus 2/33

Anyway, if using "Random Assignment & Rarity Tables", you need to add list of mechs, not present in that tables. BattleTech 10979 - Combat Operations - here you have list of mechs, factions can possibly use.

[RestosIII]

WolvesX, on 03 February 2017 - 08:34 AM, said:

I think irl the other Clans would have just revolted against Clan Wolf and stopped fighting with "honour".

Clan Smoke Jaguar. There's a reason no-one helped them during Operation Bulldog. Except for Ian Hawker trying to defend them. **** Ian Hawker.

[TELEFORCE]

I have the correct thread this time

I like the information in this thread. It's consistent with what I've seen in the lore. Since the IS has been discussed so much, I'll shed some light on which Clan 'mechs are associated with which Clans, particularly from which Clans they originated:

Clan Wolf:
Dire Wolf (Originally designed by Clan Wolf, first produced by Clan Smoke Jaguar)
Gargoyle
Timber Wolf
Orion IIC
Linebacker
Ice Ferret (Originated with Clan Ice Hellion)
Adder (Originated with Clan Star Adder)

Clan Smoke Jaguar:
Dire Wolf (again, originally designed by Clan Wolf, but plans for the 'mech were won in a trial of possession by the Jaguars)
Warhawk
Executioner (Originated with Clan Burrock)
Ebon Jaguar
Mad Dog
Stormcrow (Genesis shared by both Clan Hell's Horses and Clan Snow Raven)
Shadow Cat (Originated with Clan Nova Cat)
Arctic Cheetah (Originated with Clan Ice Hellion)
Mist Lynx

Clan Jade Falcon:
Night Gyr
Summoner
Hellbringer (Originated with Clan Hell's Horses)
Hunchback IIC (though this 'mech is manufactured by other Clans, it is really popular with the Falcons)
Kit Fox (Originated with Clan Cloud Cobra)

Clan Ghost Bear:
Kodiak
Executioner
Mad Dog (Originated with Clan Smoke Jaguar)
Stormcrow (Genesis shared by both Clan Hell's Horses and Clan Snow Raven)
Viper (Originated with Clan Fire Mandrill)


Like the Inner Sphere, each Clan has other Clan designs in their toumans through trade or battlefield salvage. Any 'mechs not mentioned here, like the Nova, Marauder IIC, Highlander IIC, and Jenner IIC are common in all Clans.

[SuperFunkTron]

Sigmar Sich, on 03 February 2017 - 10:38 AM, said:

"Random Assignment & Rarity Tables" have some questionable decisions, VTR-9S as example - this mech is excluded from faction tables, labeled as rare "Belonging to this category are one-offs and extremely rare experimental variants (Victor 9S)", in spite VTR-9S is present in fresh(sort of) edition official rulebook - BattleTech 35014 - Historical - War of 3039 - in same quantities as original VTR-9B model, and same quantities as ZEU-6T. And proportions in "Random Assignment & Rarity Tables" for same age are far off from this.
Add to this absence of some new models as TDR-9S for 3050 age, or GRF-3M for Steiner...
I'm sure authors know what they doing, but i have severe doubts about some decisions.

BattleTech 35014 - Historical - War of 3039 - random unit tables, to my opinion are still best for representing mech numbers per faction.
I know same tables for 3050 exist, with clans, but i couldn't find it. I'll keep searching..


Anyway, if using "Random Assignment & Rarity Tables", you need to add list of mechs, not present in that tables. BattleTech 10979 - Combat Operations - here you have list of mechs, factions can possibly use.

I haven't had access to any of the paid material yet unfortunately, which is why I started using the random assignment and rarity tables. I've only dealt with the clans so far as I am most familiar with them. Are those tables also skewed in the "Random Assignment & Rarity Tables"? I know that they don't cover all the mechs we have in MWO and certain unique/rare mechs aren't included on them, but are they more or less correct for percentage of mech chassis and variant for the weight classes they are in?

[Escef]

Badly in need of some updating, but the info here is largely still good.

https://mwomercs.com...n-affiliations/

[SuperFunkTron]

That's a great start point and I definitely agree that they need to add that info in game. However, I'm digging quite a bit deeper in an attempt to find percentages of each mech and its variant in respective Clan forces. So far, the 3028-3050 Random Assignment tables has been the best source I've found so far, but it is lacking newer mechs like the linebacker and Night Gyr, both of which i found as being used by a pair of clans each, but no actual numbers beyond their faction availability on MUL.

[Sigmar Sich]

SuperFunkTron, on 04 February 2017 - 08:10 AM, said:

Are those tables also skewed in the "Random Assignment & Rarity Tables"? I know that they don't cover all the mechs we have in MWO and certain unique/rare mechs aren't included on them, but are they more or less correct for percentage of mech chassis and variant for the weight classes they are in?

"Random Assignment & Rarity Tables" is a great work, based on official tables, but interpreted. To my opinion, "Random Assignment & Rarity Tables" are probably perfect for their original purpose - to create random units for tabletop game. However, some decisions, like excluding most of 3050 era mechs from 3050 tables, and ignoring some models, made it inaccurate for purposes of calculating mechs "population" - it does not cover significant amount of models we have in MWO (i mean IS. For clans it is easier, since omnimech's "models" are not models, just different loadouts).

How to proceed with your research, to my opinion: use "Random Assignment & Rarity Tables", but add list of all models, not present there, but present in MWO - with notes, which faction uses it.
Example
*tables, numbers, and other stuff*
Notes:
VTR-9S - Steiner model, not present in current tables, but present in tables from War of 3039, in numbers equal to VTR-9B and ZEU-6T. Also exclusively present in Lyran Alliance mech availability tables from Combat Operations.
GRF-3M - originally Marik model, manufacturing was captured by Steiner near 3025, with occupation of planet Oliver. (sourse - TRO 3050). Model also present in Lyran Alliance mech availability tables from Combat Operations.
etc.

Ideally, big ultimate guide should be created, including all reaserches from different sourses. Probably in format of dossier for each model, with quotes from TRO, planets and manufacturers, eras, percentage per faction, and other stuff. I will be glad to contribute, but not right now - for few weeks i'm very busy wtih work. I'll be free only in second part of this month.
But i think such guide should be done.

[SuperFunkTron]

That seems like a solid idea. I'll be working on the clans first and then adding notes for in game mechs that don't show up in the assignments tables but are present on MUL and then eventually any source I get info about them from. But like you I've got a lot of work over the next few weeks so I'll be moving a bit slowly on it.

[RAM]

Yanlowen Cage, on 01 February 2017 - 07:06 AM, said:

Clan Smoke Jag - more known for their use of battle armor

No... Not even close.


RAM
ELH

[TELEFORCE]

RAM, on 06 February 2017 - 06:36 AM, said:

No... Not even close.

I believe Clan Smoke Jaguar is best known for fielding assault 'mechs, kind of like House Steiner of the Clans. They believe in using heavy firepower to achieve their goals. Imagine them fielding stars mainly consisting of Warhawks, Dire Wolves, and Executioners, being screened by Stormcrows and Mad Dogs, with Arctic Cheetahs and Mist Lynx providing anti-vehicle and anti-infantry support alongside points of Elementals.

[Zergling]

Ghost Bears were more known for battle armor usage IIRC, not Smoke Jaguar.

Edited by Zergling, 06 February 2017 - 08:20 AM.

[Rekkon]

TELEFORCE, on 04 February 2017 - 04:52 AM, said:

Clan Ghost Bear:
Kodiak
Executioner
Mad Dog (Originated with Clan Smoke Jaguar)
Stormcrow (Genesis shared by both Clan Hell's Horses and Clan Snow Raven)
Viper (Originated with Clan Fire Mandrill)

And the Fire Moth. Percentage-wise, Ghost Bear used almost as many of them as the other three invading Clans combined.

[Zergling]

Rekkon, on 06 February 2017 - 09:12 AM, said:

And the Fire Moth. Percentage-wise, Ghost Bear used almost as many of them as the other three invading Clans combined.

Usually as highly mobile Elemental delivery vehicles.

[0bsidion]

Sigmar Sich, on 02 February 2017 - 10:01 AM, said:

I'm glad people started to ask this question.
I actually did a research near the beginning of this game, though it is outdated, still can be of use.
But keep in mind - this is from memories/old notes, and mistakes can happen, and have gaps. And keep in mind - any mech can be salvaged.
Probably in becoming month i update and reorganise data in new format, since game have many new stuff, and i think i returned to active play.

Locust - mass prodused by everyone, used by everyone.
1V is original Star League model.
Faction specific: 3S - Steiner, 1M - Davion (surprise, letters don't always mean house name), 3M - Marik.

Commando - Steiner pride. 2D is most common, 3A second common, 1D - aged and obsolete, but still present, 1B - unpopular experiment to revive original model 1A.
2D and 3A are somewhat shared with FedCom ally - Davion.

Spider - currently produced by Marik
5V - original Starl League model. 5D - Davion, 5K - Kurita.

Urbanmech - Liao
UM-60R is original model and can be found anywhere, other models - Liao only.

Firestarter - common everywhere. Active production - Steiner.
Original model - H, and most common. S - Steiner and probably Davion ally.

Jenner - active production - Kurita
Original model - 7D, used by everyone, but barely present ourside Kurita space. F - uncommon model, K- Kurita.

Panther - Kurita mech.
8Z - original Star League model, could be present in other houses.

Raven - Liao pride. Produced and used by them, except 2X model - this is Davion retrofit. They captured so many Ravens, so civilians thought Raven was Davion design. Imagine Liaos' butthurt. This captured Ravens was retrofited with Davion higher quality equipment.

Wolfhound - FedCom shared mech, active production - Steiner.

Cicada - Marik
Original Star League model 3A, used by everyone, though in small numbers. Other models - Marik.

Blackjack - Davion (and somewhat Liao, though they dont like it)
BJ-1 - unpopular original Star League model. 1DC and 2 - Davion, 3 - Liao.

Phoenix Hawk - mass produced and used mech.
1 - original SL model. 1K - Kurita, 3S - Steiner

Vindicator - Liao pride.
1AA was failed model, and was "gifted" to Rasalhague.

Centurion - Davion pride.
A - original model, had flawed AC/10 design. AH - Davion(?), AL - Steiner only, D - Davion, somewhat shared with FedCom ally,

Crab - ComStar mech.
CRB-20 was supplied to Kurita. 27 - original model. Were used by Clans for secondary duties.

Enforcer - Davion pride. Some models (5D?) shared with FedCom ally - Steiner.
P models - House Bullock only, manufactured by PGI, Terra.

Hunchback - very-very common mech everywhere. But mostly associated with Marik (we dont have their exclusive model 5M)
Manufactured and traded by Marik heavily, and somewhat produced by Steiners. Probably by others too, cant say.

Trebuchet - originally Centurion's partner. Currently produced by Marik
5N - original SL model. 5J, 7N - Marik, 7K - Kurita. (5S - Steiner model with SRMs, but we dont have it)
3C - obsolete original model.

Bushwacker - produced by Steiner in times of Clan invasion. Shared with some IS factions.(Davion and Kurita for sure)

Griffin - very old mech, from Mackie times. Main current manufacturers - Steiner and Marik. Secondary manufacturers - other houses except Liao.
1N - original Terran Hegemony model. 2N - SL elite model, not used by houses. 1S - Steiner. New models have funny story - 3M was Marik model, but just when they were ready to produce it - Steiners came and occupied planet with GRF-3M factories. So 3M produced both by Marik and Steiner. And, same story happened in the same time to 1DS model (not in the game) when Kurita captured Davion planet.

Kintaro - ComStar mech. Currently produced by Davion
19 - original SL model, used by ComGuards. 18 - Davion downgraded model. 20 - models supplied to Kurita.

Shadow Hawk - very common mech everywhere.
2H - original SL model. 2D, 2D2 - Davion, 2K - Kurita, 5M - Marik. 2H models still produced in Periphery.

Wolverine - currently produced by Marik and Davion and Kurita.
6R - original SL model. Funny, but we don't have 6M model for Marik, biggest manufacturer. 6K, 7K - Kurita.7D - Davion.

Dragon - Kurita pride.
Rasalhague, as former part of Kurita space, have them too.

Quickdraw - currently manufactured by Marik and Kurita. Can be used by Steiner and Davion too.
4G - origina SL model, 4H - alternative. 5K - Kurita.

Rifleman - Davion
3N - original SL model, somewhat shared with Steiner.

Catapult - Liao.
C1- original SL model. K2- Kurita.

Jagermech - Davion pride
Laio can use salvaged Jagers.

Thunderbold - common mech, main manufacturer - Steiner and Marik.
5S - original SL model, 5SS, 9S - Steiner, 9SE - Eridani Light Horse mercs. We don't have Marik's 7M.

Cataphract - Liao pride.
Davion captured planet with its factories, do they have it too.
1X, 2X - original Liao models. 3L - Laio upgrade. 4X - Davion experiment, 3D - Davion upgrade, somewhat shared with Steiner.

Grasshopper - common to all, but in small numbers.
5H - original SL model, very popular so it still used more than modifications.

Warhammer - 6R - original SL model, common everywhere, 6D - Davion, 7S - FedCom (Steiner production).

Black Knight - old Star League mech, used in small numbers by everyone, not sure about current production.

Marauder - 3R - old popular SL model, used by all. 5D - Davion. 5M - Marik.

Orion - Marik pride.
1K - original SL model, in small numbers can be used by others.

Awesome - Marik mech, but actively traded to everyone.

Victor - Davion pride.
9B - original SL model, mostly Davion. 9S - Steiner. 9K - Kurita - they captured Davion's only Victor factory in war of 3039. Imagine Davions' butthurt, they now have to buy Victory from st.Ives Compact.. 9D - Davion, not present in the game but same as 9K, with different manufacturers for components.

Zeus - Steiner pride. Somewhat shared with Davion, but they dont like Zeus just because it is Steiner's.
5S - prototype (only one mech), 6S and 6T - main models, 9S - upgrade, 9S2 - upgrade's modification.

Battlemaster - in small numbers manufactured by Steiner and Marik. Rare mech.
1G - original SL model, used by everyone, 1S, 3S - Steiner, 1D - Davion, 3M - marik. 2C - ComStar, but for some "mistake" it was supplied to Kurita.

Stalker - produced by Steiner and Marik.
3F - original SL model, 3H - siege modification; used by everyone. 5S - Steiner, 5M - Marik.

Cyclops - very rare mech.
11-P - House Bullock, PGI, Terra. 11-A-DC - Liaos model with dual cockpit.
Not sure really, can be wrong here.

Highlander - ComStar mech.
732 - original SL model, manufactured in current Steiner space, model still can be used by Steiner. 733 - downgraded licensed model, produced in Laio space (?), used by all.
733 model was also supplied by ComStar to Kurita.

Mauler - Kurita mech, former Daboku

Banshee - old unpopular mech.
3E - original Hegemony model. "Used" by all. 3M - Marik. 3S - Steiner, only popular modification.

Atlas - iconic Star League mech. Currently manufactured by Steiner and Kurita. Fromerly Davions manufactured it too, untill losin factories to Kurita.
D - original SL model, used by everyone. DC - Steiner militia refit. K - Kurita. S - FedCom (Steiner manufacture)

King Crab - ComStar only.

Phew, this should cover IS.
As for Clans - sorry, later.. Sorry for possible mistakes, i was in a hurry.

A pretty comprehensive list. Just thought I'd add a few things though, Kurita also purchased some Ravens, and they have a particular fondness for the Hunchback, due to its "dueling nature". I included the Sarna links as reference.

The only reason I know is Kurita is one of my favorite factions and I've done some digging into their lore based mech rosters.

[Sigmar Sich]

0bsidion, on 06 February 2017 - 09:37 AM, said:

A pretty comprehensive list. Just thought I'd add a few things though, Kurita also purchased some Ravens, and they have a particular fondness for the Hunchback, due to its "dueling nature". I included the Sarna links as reference.

The only reason I know is Kurita is one of my favorite factions and I've done some digging into their lore based mech rosters.

Yes, thank you, i forgot about Liao's deal with Kurita and Marik.
TRO 3050 upgrade
"First and foremost was the Confederation’s need for foreign currency that saw a number of units exported to both the Free Worlds and the Combine. The former has by far the greatest number of Ravens, a result of technology sharing by the two powers in the 3050s"
Probably it is about 3L model, since it is present in Marik tables in Combat Operations. Kurita however does not have Raven listed, but those tables are somewhat outdated, and don't count other Raven models.
It is possible to assume, Kurita get earlier models - 1X or 4X. Or, more likely, Liao gave 3X - no longer needed failed prototype.
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And i totally forgot about:

Archer.
2R - old SL model, used by all, 5S - Steiner, 5W - Wolfe's Dragoons mercs

Javelin - Davion mech.
10N - original SL model, common to all. 10F, 10P, - Davion. 11A and 11B- probably Davion too, since they posess only active manufacture, but i don't know.

Assassin
AS-21 - original model, rare. Can by used by all, but only Marik were cought using them "with enthusiasm". AS-101 - Davion, considered as unsuccessfull experiment.
AS-23 - also in list of IS shared models.
AS-26, AS-27 - seems to be another of House Bullock, PGI.

[FLG 01]

Just some small additions to your excellent posts, Sigmar Sich:

The ARC-5W was produced by Bowie, a Lyran company, on three Lyran worlds (Alarion, Carlisle, and Wyatt) and it was present in Lyran forces too. I am not sure about numbers, and it is well possible that Defiance's ARC-5S outnumbered it by a significant margin in the LCAF.

Furthermore I don't think the Bushwacker was ever used by the Draconis Combine much, at least I have not come across any source indicating it. The BSW was a favourite of MechWarriors in the Draconis March, but one better doesn't confuse them with the Dracs they hate...
It is really mostly a FedCom-Mech, although some Mercs also used it according to the MUL.

[Sigmar Sich]

FLG 01, on 06 February 2017 - 05:12 PM, said:

Furthermore I don't think the Bushwacker was ever used by the Draconis Combine much, at least I have not come across any source indicating it. The BSW was a favourite of MechWarriors in the Draconis March, but one better doesn't confuse them with the Dracs they hate...
It is really mostly a FedCom-Mech, although some Mercs also used it according to the MUL.

Yes, i wonder where i got this idea.. Could be, i saw word Draconis, and missed word March, i was in real hurry writing that post. Could be some mention about technology exchange, but i think it is just a mistake. Thanks for noticing.

According to TROs, Bushies for our timeline concentrated mostly on Lyran/Clan border, and for summer time-jump they will be common to all units of former FedCom (this is about X1 model).
In Combat Operations tables Steiners have L1 (not in game, uses LFE), S2 and X1 models. Davion have X1, mercs have X1 and S2. No other mentions.

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