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[G4LV4TR0N]

What would it be? I guess he has much armor but not that many hit points so technically things like properly aimed Pulse Lasers should work best? Or maybe Autocannons? And generally - what is best weapon for armor stripping?

[Roughneck45]

Same way for all mechs with standard engines, accurate aim and drill the CT.

There is only one damage type so everything strips armor the same, the X factor is how many shots you are landing on target.

I guess high dps builds would be best just from a numbers standpoint. He walks slow and predictably so its easy to land shots and hes not firing back so facetime isn't a problem if the other team isn't shooting you.

Edited by Roughneck45, 09 February 2017 - 08:41 AM.

[TercieI]

Ignore it, kill the enemy team, blow out its back (~400 damage total through RCT will kill it).

[Koniving]

Blow a leg. Deal with the enemy team. Even if you don't kill them all the game will hand you the victory.

[Metus regem]

Just leg it.

VIP Atlas

That's the actual game file for the VIP Atlas, as you can see her legs are the weakest point for the kill, you could core it out from the back, but some 500-ish damage is going to be needed... or you could take a leg for 360-ish and then disengage and wait for the timer to run out.

Edited by Metus regem, 09 February 2017 - 11:17 AM.

[S 0 L E N Y A]

Escort? Oh you mean skirmish + 1 useless Atlas?

Play it like skirmish.... with the addition of a useless Atlas.

What really helps if you are attacking is to pretend the VIP is Russ Bullock

[G4LV4TR0N]

Am I reading correctly that his Rear Side Torsos have more Armor than Front Side Torsos?

[Rogue Jedi]

no, rear armor is always (baring player error or troll build) far lower than front armor, however the VIP Mech is not a normal Atlas, it has way more hitpoints than a regular Atlas.

if you are attacking just remember while killing the VIP is far easier when the enemy team are gone if the VIP makes it to the extraction zone the enemy win, even of all their other Mechs are dead.


The VIP atlas has several times as much armor as a stock Atlas but will not have more than the 23% rear armor of the stock atlas
The rear CT on a stock Atlas has less hitpoints ⁽⁹²⁾ than a leg ⁽¹²⁴⁾, so if both are in good condition it will be quicker to kill it by killing its rear CT than destroy a leg ^{(after which you may still need to kill it)}, the Atlas is a big target so if you are not trying to fend off other Mechs you should be able to aim for the componant you want ^{(although if you have time you will do much more damage for completely stripping the Mech than for a quick kill).}

Edited by Rogue Jedi, 10 February 2017 - 03:30 PM.

[LMP]

If the armor values are what they are in Metus regem post it looks like trying to kill it would be nearly impossible. Could standing in front of the enemy VIP mech to block its progress slow it down?

[Rogue Jedi]

LMP, on 10 February 2017 - 01:40 PM, said:

If the armor values are what they are in Metus regem post it looks like trying to kill it would be nearly impossible. Could standing in front of the enemy VIP mech to block its progress slow it down?

the VIP Atlas is a walking target, I have never seen it try to evade fire or fire back, literaly all it does is walk to the extraction zone, so if you need to kill it, it will take about as long as a normal Atlas with a competant pilot ^{(unfortunately competant atlas pilots seem to be getting pretty rare)}, because a well piloted Atlas goes down with no armor left on the arms or torsos^{(out of more than 400 points)}, a competant Atlas pilot will usualy loose both arms and side torsos before loosing armor on the CT, unless legged to death, and the VIP is not shooting back so it is pretty easy to kill provided you are not fending off enemies at the same time

[a gaijin]

Every time I've won Escort as attacker we focused on killing all the bodyguards first and then all focus fired the rear CT.

[Rogue Jedi]

last week we had a game where my team had 2 kills with no losses then the game ended, it turned out that one of our players had sneeked away and killed the VIP while the rest of us were fightihg, so it is definately possible to kill the VIP with the enemy team still ^(mostly) intact

[Tier5 Kerensky]

Has anyone ¨seen it to actually slow down?

I was once in a team where someone suggested we leg it right at start and then it will move slower and allow us better to fight the enemy without the VIP charging foolishly towards the enemy as it normally does, but it didn't slow down at all when we actually did it.(a lot of people resisted the idea but several of us did it anyway heh)

So either it doesn't matter at all or it doens't count being legged by friendlies.

But this was few patches ago, when it had slighly less armor front, than back. It had like 300/320.(front/back) And I'm pretty sure it had more armor in legs than now. So that's not quaranteed to apply anymore.

[justcallme A S H]

TercieI, on 09 February 2017 - 09:38 AM, said:

Ignore it, kill the enemy team, blow out its back (~400 damage total through RCT will kill it).

Yeah, I see sooooo many bads chasing the Atlas. Like it means something.

It doesn't.

Kill the enemy mechs that are shooting at YOU first.


Escort = bigger flop mode delivered yet.

[Rogue Jedi]

justcallme A S H, on 14 February 2017 - 04:56 PM, said:

Kill the enemy mechs that are shooting at YOU first.

I mostly agree but make sure you do not ignore it for too long, if you kill all the enemy but the Atlas makes it to the extraction zone you still loose, once/if you have a numbers advantage in the brawl it does not hurt to dispatch 1-2 people to kill the Atlas.

I have been in several games where the attackers utterly wiped out the defenders with several suvivors but did not have enough time to kill the Atlas precisely because everyone kept fighting until the last Mech was destroyed, in 3 cases if they had sent someone after the atlas 10 seconds sooner they would have had it.

[Mechwarrior Ellis]

I've been away for a couple of months. I played some matches and noticed the new Escort scenario but it was never picked. It wasn't even a close vote any time it came up.

Is Escort very fun?

[B0oN]

LEG IT !

LEG EVERYONE !
EVER !



On a serious note :
Try it .

[Rogue Jedi]

Mechwarrior Ellis, on 15 February 2017 - 02:45 PM, said:

I've been away for a couple of months. I played some matches and noticed the new Escort scenario but it was never picked. It wasn't even a close vote any time it came up.

Is Escort very fun?

it can be, but that very much depends on the team, as you probably noticed from most of the responses to this thread most people play it like skirmish except they also have to prevent/ensure the VIP Atlas extraction as well, and the VIP Atlas seems to have removed all its weapons and devoted that tonnage to extra armor, as well as fitting a ^{(not currently, and unlikely to ever be available, experimental technoligy)} mark 20 speed retention module allowing 100% speed when legged, making shooting out the CT the most effective way to kill it ^{(less armor on the CT than both legs, and good luck getting enough headshots to kill it)}

[justcallme A S H]

Rogue Jedi, on 15 February 2017 - 03:24 AM, said:

I mostly agree but make sure you do not ignore it for too long, if you kill all the enemy but the Atlas makes it to the extraction zone you still loose, once/if you have a numbers advantage in the brawl it does not hurt to dispatch 1-2 people to kill the Atlas.

I have been in several games where the attackers utterly wiped out the defenders with several suvivors but did not have enough time to kill the Atlas precisely because everyone kept fighting until the last Mech was destroyed, in 3 cases if they had sent someone after the atlas 10 seconds sooner they would have had it.

Ye but that is why you leg it

Kill 6-8 mechs and if you're running low on time just chop a leg and get back to work. Best part is the VIP doesn't shoot back... If you're in a light you can generally get near the VIP without a drama, leg it and go back to business

[Robinhood78]

I've never bothered to leg it and I see more than a few people suggesting it. The thing is only going about 30kph so what is legging it going to do? You can't make it go slower. Are there different rules for it compared to legging live mechs?