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FupDup, on 16 February 2017 - 03:18 PM, said:

There is actually a valid point in here. For years MWO has been in a sort of "maintenance mode" where basically not much happened other than mech packs. For example, things like CW/FW are definitely not in a presentable state yet.

The thing about game developers branching out into other games is that they first take the time to perfect their first title, and THEN move on to other things. They usually don't branch out when their first and only title is more or less still in its beta stage.

You mean like HBS? lol

[Navid A1]

Mcgral18, on 16 February 2017 - 02:20 PM, said:

Assuming MW5 is modable, we don't have to deal with PGI's inherent balance fustercluck

I really hope PGI is not reading the forums.
Because they will make sure to encrypt the game files ten times over, after reading this... because they are PGI

[Mystere]

FupDup, on 16 February 2017 - 03:18 PM, said:

There is actually a valid point in here. For years MWO has been in a sort of "maintenance mode" where basically not much happened other than mech packs. For example, things like CW/FW are definitely not in a presentable state yet.

The thing about game developers branching out into other games is that they first take the time to perfect their first title, and THEN move on to other things. They usually don't branch out when their first and only title is more or less still in its beta stage.

I and I retort that companies need to diversify their products lest their sole money earner goes bust for one reason or another.

We may not like it, but that is business.

Metus regem, on 16 February 2017 - 03:18 PM, said:

I will say three words, that should aleaviate your concerns...

Down
Loadable
Content

Think about it, they could make DLC Clan Invasion, DLC Clan Invasion from the Clan side, DLC Operation Serpent, DLC Operation Bulldog, DLC Operation Serpent; Clan Side, DLC Operation Bulldog; Clan side, DLC Age of War, DLC Star League Civil War, DLC Pentagon Worlds campaign, DLC FedCom Civil War.... there are a lot of things they could make actual DLC campaigns for for MW5....

That is all well and good under the assumption than PGI will do a good job with the game. Or are BT/MW fans the type who would throw endless money at them anyway?

[Clownwarlord]

I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT MW5!!!



I don't need to worry about server connections? No discos? No having to carry my team? No wait times to get a match? I actually get an rpg feel? HELL YES GO PGI GO FOR THE MW5 LEGEND!

*screaming like a little girl at a my little pony sale at walmart.

Edited by Clownwarlord, 16 February 2017 - 04:49 PM.

[Mystere]

Metus regem, on 16 February 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

I am well aware of that part of MWO's history, doesn't change the fact, that they have changed so much of the code to make MWO do what it does, have turned it into such a frankinengine that doing something to AC/2's causes LAA's to break.

That's not the fault of CryEngine. That's the fault of shoddy code factoring, poor change management, terrible QA, and questionable release management.

[Clownwarlord]

I can't wait.

[Malcolm Vordermark]

If they only have one game their survival as a company is tied to that game. Making additional games is how they secure themselves and grow. Also, there is an assumption that a new game would take away from this game, but I doubt they will stop supporting this game so long as it remains profitable.

[Mystere]

Acehilator, on 16 February 2017 - 04:03 PM, said:

Everybody getting their hopes up for MW5 needs to read this again:
http://www.pcgamer.com/mechwarrior-5/

and compare it with this:
http://www.pcgamer.c...tical-mech-sim/

Notice something?

And whoever thinks that the development of MW5 won't have a negative impact on MWO is simply delusional.
One of the developers even posted on this forum and said he works fulltime on MW5 now... can't remember his name, shame.

All I see are promises and more promises. We've already been there before.

Clownwarlord, on 16 February 2017 - 04:48 PM, said:

I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT MW5!!!



I don't need to worry about server connections? No discos? No having to carry my team? No wait times to get a match? I actually get an rpg feel? HELL YES GO PGI GO FOR THE MW5 LEGEND!

*screaming like a little girl at a my little pony sale at walmart.

Well, you will just have to authenticate via a PGI server every time you play the game.

[MechaBattler]

Metus regem, on 16 February 2017 - 03:18 PM, said:

I will say three words, that should aleaviate your concerns...

Down
Loadable
Content

Think about it, they could make DLC Clan Invasion, DLC Clan Invasion from the Clan side, DLC Operation Serpent, DLC Operation Bulldog, DLC Operation Serpent; Clan Side, DLC Operation Bulldog; Clan side, DLC Age of War, DLC Star League Civil War, DLC Pentagon Worlds campaign, DLC FedCom Civil War.... there are a lot of things they could make actual DLC campaigns for for MW5....

It really depends on how much they're charging versus the hours of play you can get out of it.

[FupDup]

Mystere, on 16 February 2017 - 04:43 PM, said:

I and I retort that companies need to diversify their products lest their sole money earner goes bust for one reason or another.

Neglecting the sole money earner increases the chances of it going bust.

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

[Idealsuspect]

Metus regem, on 16 February 2017 - 03:18 PM, said:

I will say three words, that should aleaviate your concerns...

Down
Loadable
Content

Think about it, they could make DLC Clan Invasion, DLC Clan Invasion from the Clan side, DLC Operation Serpent, DLC Operation Bulldog, DLC Operation Serpent; Clan Side, DLC Operation Bulldog; Clan side, DLC Age of War, DLC Star League Civil War, DLC Pentagon Worlds campaign, DLC FedCom Civil War.... there are a lot of things they could make actual DLC campaigns for for MW5....

Me i see MWO2
Hope you are all ready to rebuy your whole MWO mechs collection in MWO2...

You can see in video MW5 shadow hawk model is EXACTLY same than current MWO shadow hawk we have now... meshes textures ( in fact only HUD is totally new lol ) and MWO2 shadow hawk will be exactly the same model...
Same for raven and all others mechs which will be avaiable....

Yea you did pay MWO mech package for they make the dream real and they will sell you same work in 2 mores games with MW5 and MWO2.

Dont worry IP won't die, just need whales for make this dream alive again (MW5) and again (MWO2) .
Me i wasn't convince by their work on MWO and also didn't became a whale and i swear i will never become one.

[Idealsuspect]

Rouken Vordermark, on 16 February 2017 - 04:52 PM, said:

If they only have one game their survival as a company is tied to that game. Making additional games is how they secure themselves and grow. Also, there is an assumption that a new game would take away from this game, but I doubt they will stop supporting this game so long as it remains profitable.

Additional games?
Well i hope for them they will ONLY do battletech games.

If MWO wasn't about battletech everybody would have left after 1 year... No whales, no life support.

[Lupis Volk]

Idealsuspect, on 16 February 2017 - 06:00 PM, said:

Me i see MWO2
Hope you are all ready to rebuy your whole MWO mechs collection in MWO2...

If all the mechs that MWO has at the time of MWO2's production are in i'd be happy.

Heck i'd hope PGI would throw people a loyalty bone. Like some other games have done.

Edited by Lupis Volk, 16 February 2017 - 06:11 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Alistair Winter, on 16 February 2017 - 02:59 PM, said:

Also, better MW5 than Transverse, obviously.



Never forget.

165 likes vs 1055 dislikes on Youtube.

True. But let's put some perspective to that.... after 2013.... when PGI decided (in their usual tone deaf manner) to launch that.... it could have been a video of Kittens and Puppies or the best Sex Tape ever filmed.... and still would have garnered 10-1 negative reviews.

Was Transverse a bad idea (probably), released at a really bad time (definitely), further showing how disconnected Russ, Paul and Bryan were (resoundingly)? Yes. Was it quite the "worst idea ever" that the emotions of the time, and the Reddit Butthurt Remnant (many of whom are still convinced that in just a little while longer, and Star Citizen will be the BEST! GAME! EVER!!!!!) try to claim? No, not really.

[Carl Vickers]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 February 2017 - 06:15 PM, said:

True. But let's put some perspective to that.... after 2013.... when PGI decided (in their usual tone deaf manner) to launch that.... it could have been a video of Kittens and Puppies or the best Sex Tape ever filmed.... and still would have garnered 10-1 negative reviews.

Was Transverse a bad idea (probably), released at a really bad time (definitely), further showing how disconnected Russ, Paul and Bryan were (resoundingly)? Yes. Was it quite the "worst idea ever" that the emotions of the time, and the Reddit Butthurt Remnant (many of whom are still convinced that in just a little while longer, and Star Citizen will be the BEST! GAME! EVER!!!!!) try to claim? No, not really.

Funny how SC is being vaporous since it was scheduled for release in 2015? I do hope it comes out sometime in my lifetime just so I can have a look at it.

Edited by Carl Vickers, 16 February 2017 - 06:31 PM.

[Mystere]

FupDup, on 16 February 2017 - 05:27 PM, said:

Neglecting the sole money earner increases the chances of it going bust.

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Well, if Apple had stuck with Macs, then they will not be the company they are today.

[Mcgral18]

Carl Vickers, on 16 February 2017 - 06:31 PM, said:

Funny how SC is being vaporous since it was scheduled for release in 2015? I do hope it comes out sometime in my lifetime just so I can have a look at it.

Eh?

It's in alpha, but Star Marine was recently released (to not exactly glowing reviews, but it exists, which is nice)
No Planetary landings, I think I'd like those. Soon™, in 3.0
2.6.1 is on the PTU. Nice that they use that for a couple weeks, and correct certain bugs.


Release was never slated for 2015. That would be like saying MWO is out of beta!

[Idealsuspect]

Lupis Volk, on 16 February 2017 - 06:10 PM, said:

If all the mechs that MWO has at the time of MWO2's production are in i'd be happy.

Heck i'd hope PGI would throw people a loyalty bone. Like some other games have done.

Well they won't ... coze even whales wanna pay for all mechs they won't be able to put 2000 in one time lol ...
Yea you will have a bone, maybe a hanging loyalty bone don't worry.

[Bishop Steiner]

Mcgral18, on 16 February 2017 - 06:35 PM, said:

Eh?

It's in alpha, but Star Marine was recently released (to not exactly glowing reviews, but it exists, which is nice)
No Planetary landings, I think I'd like those. Soon™, in 3.0
2.6.1 is on the PTU. Nice that they use that for a couple weeks, and correct certain bugs.


Release was never slated for 2015. That would be like saying MWO is out of beta!

started development in..... 2011......

Rakes in over 200 million by now.....

Still in Alpha as of 2017.

Yeah. Color me impressed.

[Mcgral18]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 February 2017 - 07:38 PM, said:

started development in..... 2011......

Rakes in over 200 million by now.....

Still in Alpha as of 2017.

Yeah. Color me impressed.

You seem to be ignoring that it has more features than MWO
Still in Alpha


Though, I'm more disappointed in PGI than impressed with CIG. They have however blundered less than PGI.
Their community managers communicate!