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[Bishop Steiner]

Mcgral18, on 16 February 2017 - 07:43 PM, said:

You seem to be ignoring that it has more features than MWO
Still in Alpha


Though, I'm more disappointed in PGI than impressed with CIG. They have however blundered less than PGI.
Their community managers communicate!

and as Trump proves.... it's ok to to lie or say nothing at all, as long as you communicate with the masses enough!

Also.... 6 years... 200+ million dollars later....still no game. No matter how you want to doll it up.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 16 February 2017 - 08:17 PM.

[Mcgral18]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 February 2017 - 08:16 PM, said:

and as Trump proves.... it's ok to to lie or say nothing at all, as long as you communicate with the masses enough!

Also.... 6 years... 200+ million dollars later....still no game. No matter how you want to doll it up.

Still not sure what you mean by that

There are two games, both Arena shooters (though, one has part RPG, part Arena shooter)
MWO has Arena Shooter as well, but no RPG



They have more content, more game, than MWO. Yet you're complaining they don't? I don't understand that part.

MWO is the one who needs to catch up to the Alpha game.


I'm sure MWO's environmental hitboxes allow for this

Edited by Mcgral18, 16 February 2017 - 08:20 PM.

[Mister Glitchdragon]

Yesterday: This game sucks and I hate it and I want PvE and Cryengine sucks and they did Clans all wrong and I wish we could just start over...

PGI: okay

Today: HOW DARE YOU!!??!!!

[Lupis Volk]

I'm sorry but i'd rather have PGI over CIG.

CIG charges thousands for ships that aren't even been made yet, PGI charged what $500 for gold mechs and $15-$20 for 3 mechs.

MWO is a game, minimally viable but that's better than the glorified tech demo that CIG has.

Edited by Lupis Volk, 16 February 2017 - 08:21 PM.

[Mcgral18]

Lupis Volk, on 16 February 2017 - 08:21 PM, said:

I'm sorry but i'd rather have PGI over CIG.

CIG charges thousands for ships that aren't even been made yet, PGI charged what $500 for gold mechs and $15-$20 for 3 mechs.

MWO is a game, minimally viable but that's better than the glorified tech demo that CIG has.

Eh, more gamemodes than PGI has
If it's not your type of game, that's fine, but slandering them because you're misinformed isn't exactly a positive attribute on your part.


A 40$ ship got me two games, and alpha access. Spend more if you want, but outright lying on your part, just don't.
Does that get you a Hero Grabdeal with reinforcements, with PGI? Though, that payment method is dying out with the upcoming Grabdeal

Edited by Mcgral18, 16 February 2017 - 08:32 PM.

[Lupis Volk]

Mcgral18, on 16 February 2017 - 08:30 PM, said:

Eh, more gamemodes than PGI has
If it's not your type of game, that's fine, but slandering them because you're misinformed isn't exactly a positive attribute on your part.

Every heard of the saying, "as wide as an ocean as deep as a puddle" That's sums up both games, But PGI doesn't try to say it's not, unlike what CIG does.

[Mcgral18]

Lupis Volk, on 16 February 2017 - 08:36 PM, said:

Every heard of the saying, "as wide as an ocean as deep as a puddle" That's sums up both games, But PGI doesn't try to say it's not, unlike what CIG does.

Again...no, not appropriate here
There are Arena Shooter modes like CTF, TDM, FFA, PVE COOP
Then there's the Mini Persistent Universe, where you COULD grab some friends and pilot some of the Multi crew ships (I wouldn't turret controls are still fairly shite), but you could. I guess like MWO's Group queue, only with a sandbox and respawns.

Then there's Racing, but I'm not good at that, nor do I enjoy it (because of the previous reason)


Aside from that, Star Marine, the FPS. Needs work, but, again, is functional


MWO has Skirmish, Escort, Dom, Conquest and Assault
Almost all Skirmish with varying objectives (while at least SC has 3 which are somewhat different, with most also being PVP)

Oh, CW too, arguably different than Skirmish, because it's Skirmish with a Off button and Respawns, in MOBA lanes.

Edited by Mcgral18, 16 February 2017 - 08:45 PM.

[Deathlike]

TBH, the creation of MW5 hasn't really slowed down the sameness that is MWO.

Transverse however is only proof of naivete and incompetence (do you know your own community PGI?)

[Bishop Steiner]

Mcgral18, on 16 February 2017 - 08:30 PM, said:

Eh, more gamemodes than PGI has
If it's not your type of game, that's fine, but slandering them because you're misinformed isn't exactly a positive attribute on your part.


A 40$ ship got me two games, and alpha access. Spend more if you want, but outright lying on your part, just don't.
Does that get you a Hero Grabdeal with reinforcements, with PGI? Though, that payment method is dying out with the upcoming Grabdeal

Not even trying to defend PGI here. Just love the desperate degree those that SC bilked go to defend the great, sainted Chris Roberts. Again, paint it as you will, for the money brought in, there should be a HELL of a lot more, and better, than what you got. Is PGI and MWO bad? Yep. So is SC....for like 10x the budget.

[Mcgral18]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 February 2017 - 09:28 PM, said:

Not even trying to defend PGI here. Just love the desperate degree those that SC bilked go to defend the great, sainted Chris Roberts. Again, paint it as you will, for the money brought in, there should be a HELL of a lot more, and better, than what you got. Is PGI and MWO bad? Yep. So is SC....for like 10x the budget.

Money doesn't make Time Travel possible, I'm afraid

Doesn't help that they've re-polished just about everything, some multiple times...that has caused delays

[Bishop Steiner]

Mcgral18, on 16 February 2017 - 09:30 PM, said:

Money doesn't make Time Travel possible, I'm afraid

Doesn't help that they've re-polished just about everything, some multiple times...that has caused delays

Money does hire devs, though, and devs with experience who should be able to put out stuff that doesn't need to be repolished 100x. But keep defending Chris Roberts, we know he can do no wrong.

[LordNothing]

i think mwo is the game they made when they discovered that they could not make the mw5 they wanted with the resources they had. not wanting to turn it into an f2p sp clustercluck, they opted to make mwo instead and see if they could use it to fun their game. their plan worked more or less it seems. its not a stretch of the imagination to think that a game company would take profits from one game and put them into another game, its kind of how these businesses stay alive.

however its still a dirty thing to do. when i buy content for mwo its because i want to play mwo, fund mwo, and keep mwo in development. thats kind of the unspoken covenant that f2ps and their players are supposed to have. but when its set up from the get go to be a cash farm so they can properly fund another game, it kind of shatters that covenant and makes me doubt the f2p model. its just a cheap way for developers to sell less game at a higher price point. any new features pushed by pgi are just bait to keep the whales biting, and when we have them we are disapointed. mwo is based on false hope, misplaced trust and shattered dreams. mw5 will only be funded by same, but it stands a chance of being a solid game, as its what the team wanted to do from the get go. but im not gonna preorder it, im gonna let it sit for 6 months wait for the reviews and then buy it on sale on steam if it passes muster.

[Mcgral18]

Bishop Steiner, on 16 February 2017 - 09:45 PM, said:

Money does hire devs, though, and devs with experience who should be able to put out stuff that doesn't need to be repolished 100x. But keep defending Chris Roberts, we know he can do no wrong.

You'll note, I've never said that
What I don't like is you guys outright lying.

[Bishop Steiner]

Mcgral18, on 16 February 2017 - 09:59 PM, said:

You'll note, I've never said that
What I don't like is you guys outright lying.

at what point did I outright lie? Please, highlight it? And correct me if I am wrong, but I do recall SC offering 15000 dollar packages (and many other ridiculously expensive options. 4+ years later, no viable product. Yes, great return on investment for those cats.

And why should that bother you guys if someone does? Selective omission is the same as lying, which is what 90% of the PGI haters do. I don't see you up in arms about that. So spare me your crusade for truth, justice and the American way,at the very least.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 16 February 2017 - 10:43 PM.

[PlayerUnknown]

GIVE ME MW5 NOW. TAKE MY MONEY, LET ME SEE HOW THE STORY ENDS :-p

[Vellron2005]

I for one am super happy about MW5..

Don't care how they finance it, only care about playing a better MW title..

And while on the subject of financing.. the OP is completely wrong..

That's like saying "oh, you're a cleaning lady, you get paid to clean an office, what you should do with the money is buy more cleaning products to better clean the office"...

Flack that! PGI earns money for services rendered... did you buy a mechpack? You did. Do you play those mechs? You do. That's as far as PGI's obligations go. If they want, they can use the money you paid for a mechpack to wipe their rear torso. It's THEIR money.

Consider yourself lucky they are actually reinvesting that money and doing all of us a favor by giving us another great game.. (I hope better than MWO)

[METAL SEPARATOR]

0 interest in MW5. Won't buy it or play it even for free. Just don't care.
What I care about is amount of maps in MWO, and moronic firepower restrictions such as ghost heat and increased heat generation -- let us destroy our mechs and have straight forward FUN without that libtard PC!!
I have 0 interest in SP MW game in 2017, like I already said. Totally none. Invest moneys into MWO b1tches!

[Shadowomega1]

Metus regem, on 16 February 2017 - 02:59 PM, said:

Well keep in mind, that Microsoft owns everything "Mechwarrior", but is leasing the rights to use it to PGI right now... that being said, the last thing "Mechwarrior" related that they made was Mechassault: Phantom War, back in 2006, with the last actual Mech Warrior game being 2002... now you have to ask yourself, why had Microsoft left the IP to rot, before letting PGI take a swing at it?

Way back in 2008 someone asked an IP manager at Microsoft why they haven't done anything with the Mechwarrior/Battletech license; He responded by saying "We own that IP?" They pretty much forgot they even owned it.

Metus regem, on 16 February 2017 - 03:18 PM, said:

*snip*

I wouldn't mind full on expansion level dlc that cover those timelines; as long as they are worth it.

[Widowmaker1981]

i work for a company that designs, builds and sells scientific equipment. Our customers pay us money for our items and we supply the items to them. The money they pay us with is used to pay our salaries and some is invested into designing new products (well, paying R&D folks salaries)

Do our customers have a right to complain that the money they spent on our products is not being used to improve their specific product? No, they do not. They paid us for the items they received.

Thats the same thing here. You paid PGI for items (mechs, etc) that you received. You knew what you were getting and you got it. From that point on, they can spend their money on exactly whatever they like, because its now their money.

[MeiSooHaityu]

PGI is a game development studio so they are going to develop game(s).

Example: HBS is producing Battletech, and they were doing it at the same time they were making Necropolis. I don't think anyone was asking why Battletech is being made when Necropolis could be made better or larger in scope.

All that aside though, this game isn't getting much better than this. MWO has probably reached a plateau and PGI needs to look to the future for additional revenue. A new game means a new revenue stream.

Besides...why would anyone complain about more MechWarrior? That just seems silly to me